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"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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  • #3242
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    dead one wrote: »
    Yes off course. God is also a theory according to many people and also evolution is theory. You believe in evolution but not in God.

    Umm, still not sure you quite understand what these terms mean in the scientific sense.

    "God", if such a being exists, is not a theory, he is a phenomena. Theories explain, through conceptual, prediction based models, a phenomena. The theory of evolution explains life on Earth (the phenomena). The theory of gravity explains the phenomena of things being attracted to other things based on their mass.

    "God exists and is X" could be a theory if it was possible to test such a theory using the scientific method, which includes falsifibility (it is possible to run a test that should produce a particular result if God doesn't in fact exist).

    But because it is not testable it is not considered a scientific theory. Science has no use for guesses and at the moment God exists is just that, a guess. It might be a guess people are very confident is true but science disregards personal confidence in something because humans more often than not can't tell if their personal assessment is accurate or simply wrong.
    dead one wrote: »
    Evolution denies the need for a God to be involved in the universe.

    Who said there was ever a need for God to be involved in the universe in the first place?


  • #3243
    Mark Hamill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,857 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    dead one wrote: »
    Yes off course. God is also a theory according to many people and also evolution is theory. You believe in evolution but not in God.

    God is not a theory, god is not testable and it doesn't truly account for all the evidence.
    dead one wrote: »
    Evolution denies the need for a God to be involved in the universe. Evolution is the “creation theory” for the religion of atheism. That's why you are supporting it.

    I already covered this. Evolution doesn't have anything to do with the creation of life, thats abiogenesis. Evolution only accounts for the variation of life. Evolution doesn't necessarily deny god (only the ones that specifically deny evolution) and atheism is not a religion. I support evolution because it best explains the evidence. Its always in my best interest to accept the truth, whether or not it seems to support atheism. Evolution can be true and god could still exist, and evolution could be false and god could still be false, its not a dichotomy.
    dead one wrote: »
    But it is very fact that evolution is just theory which has no evidence. isn't it [SIZE=+1]Circular Reasoning – supporting a premise with the premise rather than a conclusion. I remember once u said about circular argument.[/SIZE]

    We have explained the evidence several times, read it again.


  • #3244
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    J C wrote: »
    ... so what have we got here? ... a bunch of Satanists masquerading as 'Atheists'???

    ... so that's why you guys regularly visit the Christianity Forum ... and take more of an interest in Christianity ... than many Christians themselves do???

    Youre very quick to jump to a conclusion and then have faithin it...
    But we've known that for a whileen:P


  • #3245
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    J C wrote: »
    Thank you ... no more spells for tonight or any other night!!!
    ... and please remember that every knee shall bend and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

    Yippeeee I know that one from my time strumming acoustic at folk masses!!!
    Every body... two, three, four
    HE IS LORD, HE IS LORD
    HE IS RISEN FROM THE DEAD AND HE IS LORD
    EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, EVERY TOUNGE CONFESS
    THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

    get out those tamborines now!!!


  • #3246
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    dead one wrote: »
    Yes off course. God is also a theory according to many people and also evolution is theory. You believe in evolution but not in God.

    Oh sweet holy moses there is two of them.........




    Ok kids, own up. Who has been feeding JC after midnight and who got him wet?

    gremlins-soundboard-12-2.jpg


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  • #3247
    Mark Hamill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,857 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    strobe wrote: »
    Oh sweet holy moses there is two of them.........




    Ok kids, own up. Who has been feeding JC after midnight and who got him wet?

    gremlins-soundboard-12-2.jpg

    All they have to do is to eat three or four children and there'd be the most appalling publicity.     :pac:


  • #3248
    Dexter Hollow Peacock
    Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Hollow Peacock


    This thread merge?
    Ugh, I give up, I'm not arguing this with wilfully ignorant people telling lies any more


  • #3249
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    dead one
    Join Date
    23-02-2011

    JC
    Join Date
    23-02-2005

    Interesting ....


  • #3250
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    AhSureTisGrand wrote: »
    Understated? I'll try again then:

    Why do you edit all of your posts?
    No particular reason.

    Why do you repeatedly ask irrelevant questions??


  • #3251
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bluewolf wrote: »
    No, no, no, yes, no.
    Try yes, yes, yes, yes, yes ...
    ... it will be correct ... and you will feel better afterwards!!!:)

    ... peace and love to you!!


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  • #3252
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Wicknight wrote: »
    dead one
    Join Date
    23-02-2011

    JC
    Join Date
    23-02-2005

    Interesting ....
    ... what a co-incidence ... my sixth anniversary!!!!:D


  • #3253
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I would also like to add that even if evolution was shown tomorrow to be incorrect, this would still not be any evidence FOR a god.
    It is not a case of:
    no evolution -> therefore my god exists

    more like-

    no evolution -> ??? -> ??? -> therefore A god exists -> this god that exists is my specific god
    -> and He is Jesus Christ !!!:).


  • #3254
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    J C wrote: »
    ... what a co-incidence ... my sixth anniversary!!!!:D
    Congrats.
    That's a very very sad way to use 6 years of your life.


  • #3255
    Dexter Hollow Peacock
    Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Hollow Peacock


    King Mob wrote: »
    Congrats.
    That's a very very sad way to use 6 years of your life.

    You're on 5 years!


  • #3256
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    You're on 5 years!

    Yea, but I haven't been pretending to be a delusional creationist for all that time.


  • #3257
    Dexter Hollow Peacock
    Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Hollow Peacock


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yea, but I having been pretending to be a delusional creationist for all that time.

    you have? :eek:


  • #3258
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bluewolf wrote: »
    you have? :eek:

    Typo.
    You'd think I would have learned how to type in 5 years...


  • #3259
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    robindch wrote: »
    I trust you're aware that "uncommondescent" is run by a fundamentalist christian?Yay! JC said this in the BCP thread over the fence years ago, but I was never able to find it.
    ... great minds think alike??:D
    robindch wrote: »
    Good to see christians and islamists doing the ecumenical thing!
    I know many excellent Creation Scientists who are Muslims.


  • #3260
    Dexter Hollow Peacock
    Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Hollow Peacock


    King Mob wrote: »
    Typo.
    You'd think I would have learned how to type in 5 years...

    I know, I just couldn't resist :D


  • #3261
    legspin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭legspin


    J C wrote: »
    I know many excellent Creation Scientists who are Muslims.

    Given the levels of idiocy and bone-headed ignorance in islam that is hardly surprising.


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  • #3262
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    J C wrote: »
    I know many excellent Creation Scientists who are Muslims.

    No, you don't.


  • #3263
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    No particular reason.

    Why do you repeatedly ask irrelevant questions??

    Irrelevant like most of the stuff on this thread? I asked you because I was curious, if you must know


  • #3264
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    Your proof is nonsense. Macro evolution is the same as micro evolution, only the timescale is different (see this brilliant post from The Mad Hatter in a different thread...
    ... you forgot to link to my equally brilliant reply ... and it was all in this thread!!!:)


  • #3265
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Youre very quick to jump to a conclusion and then have faithin it...
    But we've known that for a whileen:P
    I didn't jump to any conclusions ... the posters told me about themselves.


  • #3266
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Yippeeee I know that one from my time strumming acoustic at folk masses!!!
    Every body... two, three, four
    HE IS LORD, HE IS LORD
    HE IS RISEN FROM THE DEAD AND HE IS LORD
    EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, EVERY TOUNGE CONFESS
    THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

    get out those tamborines now!!!
    ... this is the 'official' version:-

    Philippians 2:9-11 (New International Version, ©2011)

    9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
    10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.


  • #3267
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    ... moving gradually from something simple like from red to blue type isn't what is supposed to have happened with the abiogenesis and the evolution of life ...
    ... which is the equivalent of spontaneously producing a 30 million page encyclopedia (3 billion letters with 100 letters per page) ... with practically no typos ... and every article perfectly co-ordinated and cross-referenced with every other article!!!!

    If you must, think of natural selection as a spell checker :/


  • #3268
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bluewolf wrote: »
    This thread merge?
    Ugh, I give up, I'm not arguing this with wilfully ignorant people telling lies any more
    ... maybe you should try posting on the BCP thread ... instead ... then !!!:D


  • #3269
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    AhSureTisGrand wrote: »
    If you must, think of natural selection as a spell checker :/
    ... an Intelligently Designed spell checker ... eh?!!!


  • #3270
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    ... an Intelligently Designed spell checker ... OK!!!

    If natural selection were designed by God then it would still be against your beliefs :S


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  • #3271
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    J C wrote: »
    ... this is the 'official' version:-

    Philippians 2:9-11 (New International Version, ©2011)

    9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
    10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.

    Oh i heard that version in the YMCA in Dublin once. It was in a Minor key and a slightly scary looking guy in a mac whipped out a tambourine half way through and gave it loads.
    Friend of yours?


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