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westtip · 01-03-2011 12:38AM

gcgirl wrote: »

2 decent leftys

contradition in terms - there are no "good" lefties.

diddlybit · 01-03-2011 12:39AM

gcgirl wrote: »

We have 3 FGs that's enough for me need 2 decent leftys

Couldn't agree more. Do think if Labour hadn't have put three candidates in there would have been a chance of two seats, rather than spiltting the vote. (If you consider Labour left at all, but that's a whole other issue.)

the groutch · 01-03-2011 12:40AM

westtip wrote: »

The shinners need to be watched with those bundles - slipping into the duffle coats, they do like to nick the odd bundle of paper they just keep thinking Northern bank Northern bank Northern bank - watch them carefully they will be out defraud Donnelly of his place in the Dail.

and I assume you have some evidence to back up these slanderous accusations

Savage Tyrant · 01-03-2011 12:40AM

westtip wrote: »

This is looking good to keep the shinner out,what a result that would be - please tell me the fools who voted FF did not transfer to the shinners. donnelly needs to outdo Brady by 58 votes to keep him out - am I right? I think so. Either way there is going to be a total recount, this could go on for days! The shinners need to be watched with those bundles - slipping into the duffle coats, they do like to nick the odd bundle of paper they just keep thinking Northern bank Northern bank Northern bank - watch them carefully they will be out defraud Donnelly of his place in the Dail.

Is it Donnelly you want in, or just "the Shinner" (who also has a name) you want kept out?

gcgirl · 01-03-2011 12:41AM

diddlybit wrote: »

Couldn't agree more. Do think if Labour hadn't have put three candidates in there would have been a chance of two seats, rather than spiltting the vote. (If you consider Labour left at all, but that's a whole other issue.)

Stupid decision 2 should have been ran

donfers · 01-03-2011 12:43AM

westtip wrote: »

This is looking good to keep the shinner out,what a result that would be - please tell me the fools who voted FF did not transfer to the shinners. donnelly needs to outdo Brady by 58 votes to keep him out - am I right? I think so. Either way there is going to be a total recount, this could go on for days! The shinners need to be watched with those bundles - slipping into the duffle coats, they do like to nick the odd bundle of paper they just keep thinking Northern bank Northern bank Northern bank - watch them carefully they will be out defraud Donnelly of his place in the Dail.

I'm no Sinn Fein supporter but you sound like a hardcore orangeman the way you are talking....Sinn Fein are now a democratic party who respect the democratic process...if anything they have been the victim of gerrymandering in the past in the North, so why don't you stop with the bitterness and paranoia and respect whatever result eventually comes our way

mgmt · 01-03-2011 12:43AM

donfers wrote: »

I'm no Sinn Fein supporter but you sound like a hardcore orangeman the way you are talking....Sinn Fein are now a democratic party who respect the democratic process...if anything they have been the victim of gerrymandering in the past in the North, so why don't you stop with the bitterness and paranoia and respect whatever result eventually comes our way

lol

westtip · 01-03-2011 12:44AM

the groutch wrote: »

and I assume you have some evidence to back up these slanderous accusations

The period of history from 1985 - 2000 just north of Gerrynomics new found home

westtip · 01-03-2011 12:45AM

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

Is it Donnelly you want in, or just "the Shinner" (who also has a name) you want kept out?

Both

gcgirl · 01-03-2011 12:45AM

John Brady is a fine candidate he has done his ground work as a councillor, which I do think is important, I am going to be honest I have never voted SF before this election but he got my preference after the labour party

donfers · 01-03-2011 12:46AM

westtip wrote: »

contradition in terms - there are no "good" lefties.

Those posters of Maggie Thatcher that adorned your bedroom when you are a kid have clouded your judgement I'm afraid

diddlybit · 01-03-2011 12:49AM

Won't Doyle's surplus most likely go to Donnelly than Brady? Donnelly being a FG in an Independent's clothing and all that

My Bad. It's late and the intricities of the Irish voting system are too much for my frazzled brain. Please ignore above idiotic statement.

Recession Buster · 01-03-2011 12:49AM

I'll take a "lefty" any day ahead of 4 right wingers. Dont forget it was right wing "light touch regulation" that has caused this counties melt down.

gcgirl · 01-03-2011 12:50AM

Ruari Quinn is a fine man excellent speaker and possible one of the finest finance ministers we ever had in this state, and here's one to watch Dominic Hannigan

westtip · 01-03-2011 12:51AM

donfers wrote: »

Those posters of Maggie Thatcher that adorned your bedroom when you are a kid have clouded your judgement I'm afraid

Far from it I was out on the barricades against Thatcher - then one day I grew up and found out that left wing politics is a lot of cloud cuckoo land, however, I cannot see how labour can describe themselves as left wing - they are not. The simple facts are all the political parties are lapdogs to the greater force in todays society - the large multi-nationals, A left wing party would have said the irish level of corporation tax is unfair to working people, but they would not step up to the plate and be honest on that one.

Anyway any news from the count?

mgmt · 01-03-2011 12:52AM

RTE_Elections Current #wk votes stand at Brady 9037; Donnelly 8980; Ferris 10243; Fitzgerald 7004; Harris 10901; Timmins 10729. #ge11

ergo · 01-03-2011 12:52AM

looking at Dick Roche's transfers Brady got 140 and Donnelly 162, this could be tight, geography as well to be taken into account of course

donfers · 01-03-2011 12:53AM

westtip wrote: »

Far from it I was out on the barricades against Thatcher - then one day I grew up and found out that left wing politics is a lot of cloud cuckoo land.

often people become more conservative politically as they get older which may or may not conincide with the fact that they have attained wealth and property

however you are entitled to that opinion but that's another debate for another day,

d'Oracle · 01-03-2011 12:54AM

diddlybit wrote: »

Won't Doyle's surplus most likely go to Donnelly than Brady? Donnelly being a FG in an Independent's clothing and all that

Thats pretty unfair.
He has not given much in the way to suggest that.
And I'm sick of hearing it.

He stood on his own policies and while some of them may be compatible with FG its pretty ignorant to call him that.

gcgirl · 01-03-2011 12:56AM

The big deal breaker is social policy now I'm not talking social fecking welfare I'm talking simply equality somehow FG lost their reforming agenda of the 80's down the line and you have a very conservative party at the moment, that's why I back labour

diddlybit · 01-03-2011 12:57AM

d'Oracle wrote: »

Thats pretty unfair.
He has not given much in the way to suggest that.
And I'm sick of hearing it.

He stood on his own policies and while some of them may be compatible with FG its pretty ignorant to call him that.

No offence was intended. I'm a great admirer of the man and think he's a great change to Wicklow and national politics. Just teasing as painting him as a Fine Gaeler has been the general consenus so far. I think (and hope) he's much more than that.

gcgirl · 01-03-2011 12:57AM

d'Oracle wrote: »

Thats pretty unfair.
He has not given much in the way to suggest that.
And I'm sick of hearing it.

He stood on his own policies and while some of them may be compatible with FG its pretty ignorant to call him that.

His got FG legal team advising him jees even the dogs on the street knew his a blueshirt

westtip · 01-03-2011 12:58AM

donfers wrote: »

often people become more conservative politically as they get older which may or may not conincide with the fact that they have attained wealth and property

however you are entitled to that opinion but that's another debate for another day,

Indeed or have a children and a mortgage to pay.

westtip · 01-03-2011 01:00AM

gcgirl wrote: »

His got FG legal team advising him jees even the digs on the street knew his a blueshirt

Ah yes that often much quoted phrase a blueshirt - and pray where where you during the spanish civil war.

Any news yet. I might retire to bed - I just hope the butler has put in my hot water bottle.

steelcityblues · 01-03-2011 01:02AM

gcgirl wrote: »

His got FG legal team advising him jees even the dogs on the street knew his a blueshirt

He's too articulate and credible to be FG!

mgmt · 01-03-2011 01:02AM

Perhaps the FG votes aren't transferring to Donnolly.

RTE_Elections We’re told the RO in #wk decided Doyle’s 240 surplus votes would not affect outcome and decided not to distribute them. #wk #ge11
2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

murpho999 · 01-03-2011 01:03AM

gcgirl wrote: »

His got FG legal team advising him jees even the dogs on the street knew his a blueshirt

mmmm......your lack of grammatical skill makes me doubt your political knowledge.

How do you know that FG's legal team are advising him and advising him on what?

d'Oracle · 01-03-2011 01:04AM

westtip wrote: »

Far from it I was out on the barricades against Thatcher - then one day I grew up and found out that left wing politics is a lot of cloud cuckoo land, however, I cannot see how labour can describe themselves as left wing - they are not. The simple facts are all the political parties are lapdogs to the greater force in todays society - the large multi-nationals, A left wing party would have said the irish level of corporation tax is unfair to working people, but they would not step up to the plate and be honest on that one.

Anyway any news from the count?

That is just a confused comment.
I think you are criticising a party for not being left when you aren't really sure what the Left actually is.

Its actually pretty common in post Boom Ireland.
Everyone got so caught up with having a few bob that everything left of George W Bush was practically branded communism.

Labour are a left party. Just because they are not militant marxists doesn't make the right wing. And the corporation tax is very fair to working people, there would be less jobs for the working people to work at if we didn't have a low corporation tax.

the groutch · 01-03-2011 01:04AM

think they're just finishing up in Laois-Offaly too (2 FG, 2 FF, 1 SF)

donfers · 01-03-2011 01:05AM

mgmt wrote: »

Perhaps the FG votes aren't transferring to Donnolly.

good or bad news for donnelly that fitzgerald's transfers have been decisive (will have to be a swing of 300 in donnelly's favour or 200 in brady's)

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