Wicklow

DeVore · 28-02-2011 12:26PM

Wow..... having screwed the country for 50 million worth of wasted tax payers money on the voting machine scandal.... he says it would be easy if we had electronic voting!! Oh the irony...

DeV.

raymon · 28-02-2011 12:29PM

While we are waiting for dick roche to be excluded here is another clip from the BBC where he says that the bailout can't be re negotiated

How did this gombeen ever get elected to begin with

Useless arrogant politician

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/9405522.stm

Mushy · 28-02-2011 12:36PM

Cant wait for his elimination. A lovely bright sunny day that will only get better!

edanto · 28-02-2011 12:42PM

My bad - I thought the first count was in, but I was a little hasty. Sorry 'bout that!

steelcityblues · 28-02-2011 01:10PM

Hope Donnelly gets in on transfers - another economic independent would be a worthy addition to the Dail.

d'Oracle · 28-02-2011 01:13PM

Pat Fitz has criticised Dick for calling for a recount.

Good call, your running mate having a go at you now Dick.
Maybe you should call him anti-democratic.

Sala · 28-02-2011 01:15PM

Any idea when the recount results will be announced? It shouldn't take as long as Saturday since the votes are at least sorted- or is that wishful thinking??

After this they STILL have to go through the rest of the eliminations, and a likely recount for the 5th seat. This will probably take the rest of the week

bamboozle · 28-02-2011 01:46PM

steelcityblues wrote: »

Hope Donnelly gets in on transfers - another economic independent would be a worthy addition to the Dail.

+1 he should be a great addition to Dail Eireann.

InTheTrees · 28-02-2011 01:56PM

RTE website is saying wicklow hasnt even decided one seat yet.

wtf??

Its been three days.

Plainly they're screwing up, that much is obvious, so isnt there anyone who can step in? Or does the country just have to sit back and watch this fiasco?

eigrod · 28-02-2011 01:57PM

Don't hold your breath folks, another re-count of the re-count of the original count....I think :

From Twitter :

RTEwicklow RTEwicklow
Full Wicklolw recount now seems pretty certain. Multiple candidates apparently unhappy with morning's "recheck" proceedings #wk #hereforever
18 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

d'Oracle · 28-02-2011 01:59PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

RTE website is saying wicklow hasnt even decided one seat yet.

wtf??

Its been three days.

Plainly they're screwing up, that much is obvious, so isnt there anyone who can step in? Or does the country just have to sit back and watch this fiasco?

What the hell?

They aren't screwing up, what the hell kind of nonsense reductive logic is that?

No candidate has had enough votes to be deemed elected and a candidate has requested a recount.
How bout you have a little read around, maybe find out whats going on before you start to bandy around accusations.

InTheTrees · 28-02-2011 02:13PM

d'Oracle wrote: »

How bout you have a little read around, maybe find out whats going on before you start to bandy around accusations.

The rest of the country has crossed the finish line, had dinner, watched telly, and gone to bed, while wicklow is still stumbling along trying to decide whether to stack ballots in piles of 50 or 100.

hdowney · 28-02-2011 02:15PM

the rest of the country isn't finished. there are 166 seats to be filled. only 154 of them are filled so far. wicklow have only 5 seats which would bring the number up to 159. so.......
read properly and don't accuse us of being to only ones holding it up

ilovemybrick · 28-02-2011 02:20PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

The rest of the country has crossed the finish line, had dinner, watched telly, and gone to bed, while wicklow is still stumbling along trying to decide whether to stack ballots in piles of 50 or 100.

24 Candidates.
5 Seats.

No Candidates with Quotas after 13 counts.
And a full recount. With the legal teams of SF and FF watching very carefully.

Not to mention our ballot looked like this.

Democracy is slow, but it is thorough.

raymon · 28-02-2011 02:21PM

Come on wicklow , get a move on !

Chop chop !

d'Oracle · 28-02-2011 02:24PM

I think everybody needs to stop talking this "Speed up" Nonsense.
Recounts are part of the democratic process.

Wicklow will probably be recounting for ages, because after this crap is done and Roche is out on his hole, there is the matter of the 5th seat to be settled.

wonderfulname · 28-02-2011 02:39PM

Its annoying that little progress has been made in Wicklow but its completely bloody understandable.

First off there were way too many candidates, then after the first count it transpired that the way the votes lay they would have to transfer all the pointless independents votes individually because there was no point at which you could say a candidate had more votes than the sum of the preceding. Don't forget the issues surrounding spoilt votes that delayed the announcing of the first count for several hours on Saturday.

And then the muppet asked for a recount, as of now recounts are also still ongoing in Galway West and Laois/Offaly.

Anybody who's blaming those working there can get over themselves.

I'm wondering who these candidates are who want a full recount, and what their reasoning is for it, anybody know?

d'Oracle · 28-02-2011 02:42PM

Dick says this wouldn't have happened if we had electronic voting.

fenris · 28-02-2011 02:56PM

d'Oracle wrote: »

Dick says this wouldn't have happened if we had electronic voting.

Of course it wouldn't, he would have had half a quota pre-loaded on the machines!

Antrim_Man · 28-02-2011 03:08PM

fenris wrote: »

Of course it wouldn't, he would have had half a quota pre-loaded on the machines!

Is there an in out slot on them e-voting machines for brown envelopes

InTheTrees · 28-02-2011 03:37PM

wonderfulname wrote: »

Its annoying that little progress has been made in Wicklow but its completely bloody understandable.

First off ...

My opinion is swaying somewhat. It would be more frustrating if the election were hanging on their result.

d'Oracle · 28-02-2011 03:38PM

Some 2500 votes in "Quarantine" at the moment due to some disputes.....

matt-dublin · 28-02-2011 03:42PM

irishtimes.com wrote:

Mr Roche says he wants all the votes thrown in the air and the whole process begun again. It now looks as if the three Fine Gael candidates are unlikely to be elected until this evening or tomorrow.

come on, is he that desperate for power??

any takers on going to shoreline tonight and protesting him???

d'Oracle · 28-02-2011 03:46PM

matt-dublin wrote: »

come on, is he that desperate for power??

any takers on going to shoreline tonight and protesting him???

You think he'd listen?
Where have you been?

u140acro3xs7dm · 28-02-2011 03:53PM

d'Oracle wrote: »

You think he'd listen?
Where have you been?

What about just giving him a good kickin'

d'Oracle · 28-02-2011 03:53PM

Hayden Gentle Ruffian wrote: »

What about just giving him a good kickin'

That would be anti-democratic.

matt-dublin · 28-02-2011 03:54PM

d'Oracle wrote: »

That would be anti-democratic.

he's being anti democratic

d'Oracle · 28-02-2011 03:56PM

matt-dublin wrote: »

he's being anti democratic

I think you will find, he is milking democracy for all its worth.

matt-dublin · 28-02-2011 03:58PM

d'Oracle wrote: »

I think you will find, he is milking democracy for all its worth.

i think you'll find he's scared of never ever ever ever being able to work in the country ever again!

edanto · 28-02-2011 04:04PM

Does anyone have any theories about why he might have done this?

1. He honestly believes that (serious) mistakes were made in the count and these could materially affect the final selection of the 5 elected people.

2. He believes that mistakes were made in the count which will affect his own outcome, i.e. that on a recount he will not be the first FF candidated eliminated and instead his running mate would be. What advantage would this give him?

3. He has some reason for wanting to delay the result. Speculation on what that might be?

4. It's purely based on frustration at being eliminated in 10th place overall and he just can't believe that's accurate.

Any other suggestions? Which do you believe is most likely of the above?

Wicklow

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