Wicklow

ebbsy · 27-02-2011 07:05PM

What a loser.

Na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na, hey hey, goodbye

leincar · 27-02-2011 07:09PM

Dick Roche ya bastard! Making me wait another day for the ultimate Portillo moment.

gcgirl · 27-02-2011 07:09PM

a brill tweet here

Ben Ali, Mubarak ,Gaddafi now Roche... The people have spoken... accept it... move on for f*cks sake..

Blowfish · 27-02-2011 07:09PM

Alun wrote: »

What's the procedure for requesting a recount? Can they be refused? What if they're still not satisfied after the recount .. are there checks in place to ensure the count doesn't go on forever?

I think they can be refused if the RO deems the gap to be too large, but given it's only 3 votes, even though it's extremely unlikely Roche will be elected, he did (unfortunately) have every right to call for one.

Dannygirl · 27-02-2011 07:12PM

His arrogance knows no bounds. But hey, isn't karma a great thing, even if it was a little slow to arrive at his door.

Wageworks · 27-02-2011 07:13PM

what is this

mikemac · 27-02-2011 07:16PM

Any candidate who loses by three votes should ask for a recount.

Nothing arrogant or being a sore loser about it

murpho999 · 27-02-2011 07:17PM

Is this really true about Roche?

Why would he do this? Understand if it was close and he had a chance of getting in but it's obvious he has none!

arctictree · 27-02-2011 07:18PM

Just looked at the figures here.

It looks like Roche is hoping that Fitzgerald, FF would get eliminated before him in the recount. That would jump him above Behan, IND ex FF who would get eliminated in the next round. If Roche got enough of Behans transfers, he could get elected.

Looking at it objectively, Behan would transfer much more votes to Roche, than Fitzgerald as they are in the same area. So, from a FF vote management point of view, this makes sense. It gives FF a better chance of getting a seat.

I still think Roche is a pr*ck though...

Dannygirl · 27-02-2011 07:19PM

feelingstressed wrote: »

Any candidate who loses by three votes should ask for a recount.

Nothing arrogant or being a sore loser about it

So he goes out three points behind his FF colleague or three ahead. Not exactly life changing stuff. He's gone. He's out.

A Dub in Glasgo · 27-02-2011 07:21PM

The leading FFer in Wicklow will be in with a shout of one the last seats assuming there is very strong transfer to the other FFer. Roche is trying to be in that position at the expense of his running mate Fitzgerald as he feels he can get more transfers than Fitzgerald.

Savage Tyrant · 27-02-2011 07:21PM

LordSutch wrote: »

I'm really hoping for the exact opposite.

Donnelly's a good guy.

So's John

Dannygirl · 27-02-2011 07:21PM

arctictree wrote: »

Just looked at the figures here.

It looks like Roche is hoping that Fitzgerald, FF would get eliminated before him in the recount. That would jump him above Behan, IND ex FF who would get eliminated in the next round. If Roche got enough of Behans transfers, he could get elected.

Looking at it objectively, Behan would transfer much more votes to Roche, than Fitzgerald as they are in the same area. So, from a FF vote management point of view, this makes sense. It gives FF a better chance of getting a seat.

I still think Roche is a pr*ck though...

I don't believe he'll get that many Behan transfers, but time will tell.

johnny_ultimate · 27-02-2011 07:23PM

*bangs head against wall*

Dick Roche - a parody of a politician.

A Dub in Glasgo · 27-02-2011 07:33PM

From RTE

1920 Wicklow: Fianna Fáil candidate Dick Roche's election agent said Mr Roche still feels he is in with a shout for the last seat.

David Grant said the count is very close and Mr Roche is better positioned than his running mate to benefit from transfers further on in the count process.

He said any candidate would have done the same thing if in the same position as Mr Roche.

But Sinn Féin candidate John Brady said that while it was Mr Roche's democratic right to call for a recount, he did not believe Mr Roche was still in contention to retain his seat.

He described it as a face-saving exercise and a final kicking of the people from an outgoing minister before he leaves power.

Mr Brady added that because many of the count staff work for Wicklow County Council, the recount would bring the county to a standstill tomorrow.

Fine Gael candidate Simon Harris said Mr Roche's decision was disappointing.

He said any candidate is entitled to a full recount, but considering Mr Roche's position in the count it represents a significant waste of resources. He said power doesn't give up easily.

Fine Gael's Andrew Doyle said he didn't think the recount would materially change the outcome of the Wicklow election. He warned that a further recount may materialise when the last seat is being fought for.

juuge · 27-02-2011 07:56PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

From RTE

Roche is gone.There is a GOD!:)

hdowney · 27-02-2011 07:58PM

but he isn't gone yet. fecker was getting the heave so he called for a COMPLETE recount of all the votes for all 24 candidates. took two days to get that far and he wants to go back thru it all again cos he can't accept we don't want him and piss off. he was THREE votes behind Fitzgerald and that must have rankled him something rotten. Parantly when he got kicked out (before he called the recount) there was a massive cheer round the count centre!

can just imagine it!

StillWaters · 27-02-2011 08:12PM

Neither Fitzgerald or behan transferred well to roche, but roche transferred very well to them. It's not that roche thinks he has a chance of getting elected, rather he wants to thwart Fitzgerald and behan's (albeit tiny) chance.

raymon · 27-02-2011 08:38PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSRnZbEHYJg

juuge · 27-02-2011 09:14PM

hdowney wrote: »

but he isn't gone yet. fecker was getting the heave so he called for a COMPLETE recount of all the votes for all 24 candidates. took two days to get that far and he wants to go back thru it all again cos he can't accept we don't want him and piss off. he was THREE votes behind Fitzgerald and that must have rankled him something rotten. Parantly when he got kicked out (before he called the recount) there was a massive cheer round the count centre! can just imagine it!

This is proof of the arrogance of the man. He should be made foot the bill for the cost of the recount which will take place on a working day and all the disruption this will cause to the people/ commerce of Wicklow.:mad:

Geansai Rua · 27-02-2011 09:19PM

I cant believe its getting recounted! Must be some serious money in that counting business!

I just came on to find out who got in because ive been out all day!

My face just went :eek:

iPlop · 27-02-2011 10:43PM

Geansai Rua wrote: »

I cant believe its getting recounted! Must be some serious money in that counting business!

I just came on to find out who got in because ive been out all day!

My face just went :eek:

It's ridiculous ,I can't believe he's willing to hold up county operations on his pathetic cling to power ,he's not going to get a seat anyway and the electorate will shun him in the future from this utterly stupid move.

I can see the method in the madness but he needs a fcuking reality check on this ,hopefully he'll sleep on it and give up tomorrow

Not likely ,he's a stubborn bollocks ,and a feckin' baby throwing his toys out of his pram!