Useless Courses

Dboy85 wrote: »

I'm sure those courses have some purpose. They have as much right to the facilities as we do ( im doing games dev). My only grape is that, so far, we've no designated area for projects. Its the people standing round mouthing and acting the boll0x making noise is what gets on my t1ts

ViP3r wrote: »

This has to be one of THE single most ignorant posts I've come across on boards in 2 years, and that's after the several other post on this thread.

I appreciate you guys are doing computer intensive courses, so you don't need to understand social policy jurisprudence or any other academically substantive subjects which don't mandate more than basic rudimentary word skills. They do however involve concepts of sociology, justice and fairness, which for example, if someone lacked they might exude an air of arrogance and smug self importance. Possibly based on say, vocation? Then you would have these individuals, lacking social awareness and consequently basic social skills, manifesting an attitude of ignorance and hostility based on their insecurities. They would probably do it in a way that emphasised their fear of human interaction, in a context where the fear of adversarial confrontation is abated by an anonymous metaphysical medium?Say, a forum?

Thank god we don't live in a world like that, and our best and brightest in the engineering and IT departments are considerate of those not so technologically savvy. So that these people in departments like humanities can go on to create jobs bringing prosperity to the economy and support the information technology industry. In the short term the virtues mentioned would also promote the college in all it's splendour to prospective students and investors, increasing private and public investment in their institution.

Everybody benefits, because in the medium to long run everyone gets more computers.

Thanks for your contribution fellas!

Any questions look me up.

My names *edited*, I'm second year student

Maybe I'll need your help with computers someday


*EDIT I agree about the noise levels in the library, but that's a matter for college administration which I would urge anyone concurring to complain to the student union. Nothing beats a face to face chat

ViP3r wrote: »

It's enthusiastic perspectives that will keep economic growth invigorated, increasing the number of educational institutions which will keep jobs in our IT sector from being outsourced to cheaper, well educated countries. And don't forget guys, academic snobbery is a two way street, and it's not always those in the upper echelons of society who hold people back and prevent societal advancement. It can often be those closed minded individuals who generalise, stereotype and criticise on the faulty premise, and out of spite for their personal issues.

*Thankfully most people don't hold this kind of attitude, and one could only hope that those who do labour under a mistaken belief in relation to our education system, are susceptible to reason.

Of course in the event that they are not, they can knock on the door of hell with the skulls of Zionist's hand in hand with Religious fundamentalists. You would need to be totally out of touch with reality if you believed your life or job prospects were predetermined by what? Where you recieved a degree?

The only truth there is that attitude will land a person who holds it exactly where they expect to end up. That can easily apply to people resting on their laurels because they go to an Irish University.

But let's just hope those poor lost soles don't try and drag the rest of us there with them.

ViP3r wrote: »

Imagine that, "single handedly" missing the point. Which point would you say it was?

Thats a pity that you feel that way about ITC courses, considering the stringent academic oversight from universities. For example, my course is overseen by an Irish university, but nobody really pays much attention to the university. I see the difference when I do past exam questions from one of these higher institutions. They're easier to a certain extent. Although that might be because of the smaller class sizes and concentrated education. I wouldn't say it's the b-all but it's good.

The points system relates to applicant demand.

Good effort

duffman13 wrote:

there would be not I.T. Carlow without the above courses.

RaleSlimShady wrote:

Ah sure, without their registration fees for these babysitting courses the college probably wouldn't be able to offer any real courses!

duffman13 wrote: »

So im in 4th year business management course, its pointless? I will let you tell the numerous businesses over the last year and a half that we have assisted in helping to come up with marketing campagins, new ideas and new directions. As much as this might be hard to believe some business courses are actually extremely valuable to local businesses based around Carlow town.

As a matter of interest what course are you doing that gives you the ability to come on and critique any course that you have no knowledge of. I have also done an avionics cert which i found to be a complete and utter waste of time, where as others have found it to be somewhat beneficial. It is about perception and your entitled to your opinion but the worst thing you can do is stereotype and this whole thread is one massive stereotype.

duffman13 wrote: »

Ok so your a hero cause you are socially inept and can operate a computer? If you want to play on stereo-types so will I, Im a 4th year business student who had offers to go elsewhere but chose IT Carlow for the simple reason i would have more one to one contact with lecturers etc. While i agree the library is a joke so much so im actually in the IT Tallaght library today because it is a hell of a lot easier to get work done the rest of your post smacks of desperation.

I have a friend in 4th year Computer games development who has a significant amount of project work to do, however i dont rate his level of commitment against mine as we both work hard. I also have difficult research projects to do this year and I cant compare my course to his as they are completely different. If you have a real issue with anything the college does contact the student union or the president of the college and have these debates in person rather than behind a keyboard.



LIT? This is brilliant!

You think any of these institutions is better than the one your in now? Thats called ignorance my friend, why are you in IT Carlow so? Is your course not offered by any of these better institutions? I will graduate this year top of my class, there is at least 3-4 people in my class who would quiet easily walk into a graduate program.

You have a small town mentality and anyone who thinks a student is better than them because they go to a better recognised college is an idiot in my opinion. When you get out in to the Real world and out from the PC you will see that yes there is a perception that a UCD graduate is better than an IT Carlow graduate but there is only one person who can change the perception and that is the individuals who graduate each year.