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shampon · 09-02-2011 10:02PM

Delancey wrote: »

My understanding is the POPT's will remain in the PSNI , unlike the Full Time Reserve which will soon be history. I think the number of POPT's will be more or less capped at 2,500 - when or if they may start recruiting I haven't heard a thing.
Anyone else know anything about the recruitment of POPT's ?

Is the FTR going the way of oul' yella when 50/50 has ended.. bro?

Goonerdee · 09-02-2011 10:04PM

Delancey wrote: »

My understanding is the POPT's will remain in the PSNI , unlike the Full Time Reserve which will soon be history. I think the number of POPT's will be more or less capped at 2,500 - when or if they may start recruiting I haven't heard a thing.
Anyone else know anything about the recruitment of POPT's ?

I remember reading somewhere that there are about 900 POPTs at the moment. If they started recruiting after the FTR's contracts are ended it would be great. I think it was three or four years ago they last recruited for them.

Goonerdee · 09-02-2011 10:18PM

Actually I found a document from last April that there are 288 POPTs. I thought it was a lot higher than that.

Delancey · 09-02-2011 10:25PM

shampon wrote: »

Is the FTR going the way of oul' yella when 50/50 has ended.. bro?

That would seem to be the plan and the Chief Constable remains insistent that the FTR will go . The Patten report recommended that the FTR should be abolished.

1986j · 10-02-2011 12:43AM

Great Video. best with sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkCFeNeqyHk

Lucky23 · 10-02-2011 12:23PM

News link saying London Met are going to start recruiting again for the next year, hopefully there is good news for PSNI too!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/met-police-recruitment-freeze-ends-15079747.html

Goonerdee · 10-02-2011 12:55PM

Lucky23 wrote: »

News link saying London Met are going to start recruiting again for the next year, hopefully there is good news for PSNI too!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/met-police-recruitment-freeze-ends-15079747.html

That is good news, it gives the people who's applications were frozen hope.

I read that they reckoned England and Wales would lose 10,000 officers. Really what that means is those positions wont be filled when those officers retire, but with 140,000+ officers in E&W you'd think natural wastage would be high enough to include that 10,000 plus a few more to allow recruitment, like what the Met is thinking will happen next year.

Scotland is aiming to keep it's current number of officers.

BTW further to my info on POPTs. Found a PSNI press release online from Jan 2011 with states there are 674 POPT. Plus 164 student officers, which is good news

shampon · 10-02-2011 03:44PM

Goonerdee wrote: »

That is good news, it gives the people who's applications were frozen hope.

I read that they reckoned England and Wales would lose 10,000 officers. Really what that means is those positions wont be filled when those officers retire, but with 140,000+ officers in E&W you'd think natural wastage would be high enough to include that 10,000 plus a few more to allow recruitment, like what the Met is thinking will happen next year.

Scotland is aiming to keep it's current number of officers.

BTW further to my info on POPTs. Found a PSNI press release online from Jan 2011 with states there are 674 POPT. Plus 164 student officers, which is good news

I'm going out on a limb here but natural wastage is a disgrace. The Guards are gonna be in for a shock when the lad's and birds who joined round the troubles go, same for the PSNI, I remember reading a report that stated with the loss of the FTR and the dude's/dudettes taking Patten, the numbers were to go down quick...I wonder how the lad's and girls on the frontline think about the gaps that will inevitably open up when their has been no recruitment for a while....

Goonerdee · 10-02-2011 05:05PM

shampon wrote: »

I'm going out on a limb here but natural wastage is a disgrace. The Guards are gonna be in for a shock when the lad's and birds who joined round the troubles go, same for the PSNI, I remember reading a report that stated with the loss of the FTR and the dude's/dudettes taking Patten, the numbers were to go down quick...I wonder how the lad's and girls on the frontline think about the gaps that will inevitably open up when their has been no recruitment for a while....

It's not really a disgrace, well as long as those following them are trained to an equally excellent level, but an officer nearly 60 years of age should take retirement so a young person gets in. Natural wastage gives young people a chance of getting in, hope hope, not that I'm all that young. But yes, Patten created a situation where people who weren't all that greatly trained began outnumbering experienced officers. I probably will get stick for saying that, but it was an RUC/PSNI officer who told me that.

shampon · 10-02-2011 05:28PM

Goonerdee wrote: »

It's not really a disgrace, well as long as those following them are trained to an equally excellent level, but an officer nearly 60 years of age should take retirement so a young person gets in. Natural wastage gives young people a chance of getting in, hope hope, not that I'm all that young. But yes, Patten created a situation where people who weren't all that greatly trained began outnumbering experienced officers. I probably will get stick for saying that, but it was an RUC/PSNI officer who told me that.

Ah...the oul' skills gap...

fefe5 · 13-02-2011 10:57AM

Well folks, this week should be the next set of calls for the March intake. Hopefully they come tomorrow so we are not all hanging on, and lets hope they bring good news of cleared vetting and stays at Hotel G'ville for plenty of boardies. Otherwise its going to be back to wondering what the future brings with PSNI Recruitment post-March.

Best of luck to all and heres hoping there is lots of good news on here this week :rolleyes:

Goonerdee · 13-02-2011 11:58AM

fefe5 wrote: »

Well folks, this week should be the next set of calls for the March intake. Hopefully they come tomorrow so we are not all hanging on, and lets hope they bring good news of cleared vetting and stays at Hotel G'ville for plenty of boardies. Otherwise its going to be back to wondering what the future brings with PSNI Recruitment post-March.

Best of luck to all and heres hoping there is lots of good news on here this week :rolleyes:

Yep, good luck to yous all (I'm so jealous) and here's hoping there is some sort of a recruitment campaign for this year. Fingers crossed.

Goonerdee · 13-02-2011 12:03PM

BTW does anyone know how many people there are that have passed everything and are waiting on a start date? There wont be a recruitment campaign until they all have started.

Goonerdee · 13-02-2011 12:57PM

PSNI statistics for this month, 155 student officers.

fefe5 · 13-02-2011 02:08PM

Goonerdee wrote: »

PSNI statistics for this month, 155 student officers.

What do you mean by this? There's 155 in g'ville?

Goonerdee · 13-02-2011 02:40PM

fefe5 wrote: »

What do you mean by this? There's 155 in g'ville?

I assume so, its the PSNI strength update, so it has to be those in training but haven't progressed to probationary police officer yet. Last time I checked the statistics for Jan were 164 student officers.

13-02-2011 03:58PM

Goonerdee wrote: »

There wont be a recruitment campaign until they all have started.

Says who?

Goonerdee · 13-02-2011 04:49PM

0607 wrote: »

Says who?

I am making an assumption, Strathclyde and the Met are still taking in recruits but have enough in their merit pools not to start a fresh campaign. I would assume all those who have passed all their phases will be given first pick.

I know the Met has a time limit for those waiting in the merit pool, they can only keep their application live for two years, after that they have to wait for a fresh campaign and apply again. I don't know if the PSNI has a similar system or not!

gigity gigity · 14-02-2011 07:20PM

Where do the psni strengh updates come from?

fefe5 · 14-02-2011 07:35PM

gigity gigity wrote: »

Where do the psni strengh updates come from?

http://www.psni.police.uk/index/updates/updates_statistics/updates_strength_of_police_service_statistics.htm

quickcatch · 16-02-2011 01:14PM

I have it on good authority that the next campaign will be in 12 months time. This campaign(c16) is ending due to 50/50 technically ending. We will find out over coming months the situation with 50/50 regarding c17.

Gee-22 · 16-02-2011 01:16PM

Do you not think that they could make up an April intake from C16 as the calls would go out in March and 50/50 does not end until the end of March?

Delancey · 16-02-2011 01:24PM

Gee-22 wrote: »

Do you not think that they could make up an April intake from C16 as the calls would go out in March and 50/50 does not end until the end of March?

To my knowledge Gee the March cut-off refers to the date when people enter the service (i.e. Garnerville ) , if so March would be last 50/50 intake.

Gee-22 · 16-02-2011 02:10PM

Delancey wrote: »

To my knowledge Gee the March cut-off refers to the date when people enter the service (i.e. Garnerville ) , if so March would be last 50/50 intake.

I know i was trying to clutch at straws

gigity gigity · 16-02-2011 07:34PM

Lets hope the policing board insist they need more officers!

1967J · 16-02-2011 08:49PM

gigity gigity wrote: »

Lets hope the policing board insist they need more officers!

Had the main man not said a while back that he needs about a further 1000 officers to be effective in his fight

mal4893 · 18-02-2011 12:32PM

We need him on the boards so we can talk to him! Maybe we could convince him how much we want this and get a start!!! (I know that won't happen but would be handy to get it from the horses mouth!) but then we couldn't have this thread "the rumour mill" Mmmm it's such a tough choice!:rolleyes:

Delancey · 18-02-2011 12:37PM

mal4893 wrote: »

We need him on the boards so we can talk to him! Maybe we could convince him how much we want this and get a start!!! (I know that won't happen but would be handy to get it from the horses mouth!) but then we couldn't have this thread "the rumour mill" Mmmm it's such a tough choice!:rolleyes:

Yes , it would be great if we could have the Chief Constable or someone of ACPO rank on this forum to answer questions. If anyone reading this wants to come on then they should feel free to do so

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Buzz35 · 18-02-2011 01:07PM

gigity gigity wrote: »

Lets hope the policing board insist they need more officers!

The board has done exactly that!:D

shampon · 18-02-2011 01:26PM

Buzz35 wrote: »

The board has done exactly that!:D

Jobs for the Boardsie's !!

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