Who will you be voting for in the next general election.

DoesNotCompute · 25-01-2011 01:47PM

Kildare North constituency:

1st Preference Labour
2nd Preference Labour (maybe)
3rd Preference Independent (Catherine Murphy)

I might possibly be giving a vote to FG, although I'm unimpressed with Enda as their leader.

jonnny68 · 25-01-2011 01:50PM

macgrub wrote: »

I have seen this call for an 'independent coalition a couple of times now.
First, I am not affiliated to any party, certainly not Fianna Fáil.
However, what would a coalition of independents honestly achieve ? 83 individuals all pulling in opposite directions looking for what's best for their area. Which independent would take the role of leadership then? Likewise, who would take certain ministerial positions? Moreover, why would one qualify as a leader or minister over another?
Then, we start on the issue of jailing 'ALL' of Fianna Fáil for what they done.
Where does in start and begin? Do we jail the guy who canvasses for them? I certainly don't want to see his puss at my door, however I do not want him jailed. What about the issue of Sinn Féin ? Some could argue that they should be jailed for previous associations many of their members have had. Do we jail everyone belonging to them also?

Oh, if I want to vote Fianna Fáil, I will! That's my democratic right. Same as everyone else's. It might not be what you like, what others like or even what's best, but that's democracy.

Vote for whoever you want but as most people know Fianna Fail are the ones responsible for this mess we are in so im amazed anyone could possibly vote for them, they will get decimitated in this election there's no doubt about it,i know of some people who voted for them all their lives but wont be voting for them again!

IMO the best scenairo would be for a coalition of Independents and Labour to be at the helm,at least then you would have someone like Eamon Gilmore who IMO is the best of a very bad bunch as Taoiseach and then other people a mixture of both Labour and Independents as ministers, put it this way they cannot do any worse than previous Governments have done, no matter who gets in nothing going to be perfect and you'll always get people who will bitch and moan that's human nature but certainly it would be a start to what is a long road to recovery.

macgrub · 25-01-2011 02:05PM

jonnny68 wrote: »

Vote for whoever you want but as most people know Fianna Fail are the ones responsible for this mess we are in so im amazed anyone could possibly vote for them, they will get decimitated in this election there's no doubt about it,i know of some people who voted for them all their lives but wont be voting for them again!

IMO the best scenairo would be for a coalition of Independents and Labour to be at the helm,at least then you would have someone like Eamon Gilmore who IMO is the best of a very bad bunch as Taoiseach and then other people a mixture of both Labour and Independents as ministers, put it this way they cannot do any worse than previous Governments have done, no matter who gets in nothing going to be perfect and you'll always get people who will bitch and moan that's human nature but certainly it would be a start to what is a long road to recovery.

My point being, which independents would get certain ministerial positions? If so, why would a Labour TD get preference over an independent? (Joan Bruton certainly didn't do herself or the party any favours on VinnyB last night).Furthermore, if an Independent (or several) didn't get their way, do they pull the plug? Governments will keep collapsing ! That could happen many times in one year! Stability is shot.

I understand where you going with your point, but I just don't see it as being viable.

jonnny68 · 25-01-2011 05:29PM

macgrub wrote: »

My point being, which independents would get certain ministerial positions? If so, why would a Labour TD get preference over an independent? (Joan Bruton certainly didn't do herself or the party any favours on VinnyB last night).Furthermore, if an Independent (or several) didn't get their way, do they pull the plug? Governments will keep collapsing ! That could happen many times in one year! Stability is shot.

I understand where you going with your point, but I just don't see it as being viable.

I suppose it would have to go to a ballot to decide elected Independent TD's would be given the role as ministers as i cant think of any other way, you cant just say so and so is to be a minister and someone else isn't although ultimately it would be Labour who would have the most say and control.

Cant see any of this happening though,most likely it'll be a FG/Labour coalition which isn't ideal but they surely cant do any more damage than what has been done!!

keithm1 · 25-01-2011 09:51PM

I will be voting sinn fein for the first time ever ,I say give them a shot The whole political system needs a sharp shock and the other partys need to be on there toes ,we need rid of complacency
A big change is what's needed not just another party to carry on from where the last crooks left off

Lawrence1895 · 25-01-2011 10:31PM

meditraitor wrote: »

You forgot the

7 Socialist Partaaay
8 workers partaaaayyy
9 commie partaaaaaay

and these bad boys ;-)

Christian Democrats (The National Party)
Christian Solidarity Party
Letterkenny Residents Party (Elections in Letterkenny area only)
People Before Profit Alliance
Seniors Solidarity Party (Local elections in County Dublin only)
Socialist Workers Party
South Kerry Independent Alliance (Elections in South Kerry only)
Workers and Unemployed Action Group (Elections in South Tipperary only)

So why do you want my opinion? give me a carrot!

The Christian Democrats in Ireland? Sh***, I moved away from Germany, when they got into power over there :mad:...but hopefully, it's something different

Amtmann · 25-01-2011 10:42PM

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I don't believe in parliamentary democracy anyway so I won't waste time complaining Anyway, members of my party under the ULA will be in the next parliament so no sweat, they're just not running a candidate in North Kildare.

What do you advocate instead? (I'm just academically interested; no desire to debate.)

keithm1 · 25-01-2011 10:47PM

Badabing wrote: »

I'll be voting in Dublin South West, FF 1 and 2 Labour 3 Hayes last.

I take it you just moved back from the states or something :rolleyes:

darragh16 · 25-01-2011 10:49PM

Fine Gael or Fianna Fail. I'm not in favour of Labour or many of their policies and Joan Burton sewed it up for me last night. I'd like to see a FG/FF govt. but its unlikely. I would also hope that in the event of Fg/Lab coalition, we need a strong opposition and I can see that in a new, fresh faced Fianna Fail.

onekeano · 25-01-2011 11:00PM

I have been very impressed with Sommerville over the last 12 months or so. Paul is running as an Independent candidate in Dublin South East and has just launched is website www.paulsommerville.com which outlines his 15 point plan for national recovery.

What I like about Paul is that he has the expertise and the passion to have an impact in the next Dail. He has given up his job to seek election and proposes solutions to help the incoming government.

If anyone is interested in following Paul you can do so on twitter @paulsommerville if you want to offer support you can do so at info@paulsommerville.com or simply visit his website to check out his manifesto.

Thanks
Roy

keithm1 · 26-01-2011 12:06AM

darragh16 wrote: »

Fine Gael or Fianna Fail. I'm not in favour of Labour or many of their policies and Joan Burton sewed it up for me last night. I'd like to see a FG/FF govt. but its unlikely. I would also hope that in the event of Fg/Lab coalition, we need a strong opposition and I can see that in a new, fresh faced Fianna Fail.

Sweet Devine ,did you just come back from the states aswell

LeixlipRed · 26-01-2011 01:04AM

Tremelo wrote: »

What do you advocate instead? (I'm just academically interested; no desire to debate.)

Google the SP or the SWP, who form the core membership of the ULA, both are revolutionary socialist parties. We have slightly different ideologies but essentially the revolution involves bringing the means of production into public ownership, worker's councils would be set up to democratically decide the direction of the workplace and so on so forth.

Teferi · 26-01-2011 02:22AM

I will most definitely not be voting for SF. I'm not bothered about a united Ireland and their association with the IRA is a complete no-no for me.

Neither the Greens for me. Their interest in animal welfare is not the sort of Green policy I think is needed in or even near Govt. I would like a party to have some good environmental policies though.

Killer Pigeon · 26-01-2011 02:46AM

1. Labour,
2. Labour. Yes, I'm a Labour head. Don't buy into this right-wing crap about there being something wrong with their Union involvement; especially at a time like this when workers' rights are becoming progressively more vulnerable. Also, don't buy into the "Labour don't have policies" remarks that other parties spout; they clearly do. They fit quite well with my political mindset actually.
3. Erm, there's a chance I'll put down ULA because there are no other Labour candidates in my constituency, though I'm not sure yet. I'm just getting that crazy lunatic vibe off ULA.

The Volt · 26-01-2011 02:50AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

1. Labour,
2. Labour. Yes, I'm a Labour head. Don't buy into this right-wing crap about there being something wrong with their Union involvement; especially at a time like this when workers' rights are becoming progressively more vulnerable. Also, don't buy into the "Labour don't have policies" remarks that other parties spout; they clearly do. They fit quite well with my political mindset actually.
3. Erm, there's a chance I'll put down ULA because there are no other Labour candidates in my constituency, though I'm not sure yet. I'm just getting that crazy lunatic vibe off ULA.

By right-wing logic, there's something wrong with corporations/big businesses being involved with FG.

Killer Pigeon · 26-01-2011 02:58AM

Voltwad wrote: »

By right-wing logic, there's something wrong with corporations/big businesses being involved with FG.

Not that I'm against corporations or big business either, they have good economical advantage. I would be for a new more encompassing and less bias form of social partnership in the future so that Unions and Big Business/ Corporations can co-exist peacefully.

The Volt · 26-01-2011 03:01AM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Not that I'm against corporations or big business either, they have good economical advantage. I would be for a new more encompassing and less bias form of social partnership in the future so that Unions and Big Business/ Corporations can co-exist peacefully.

Collective bargaining is the way forward but unfortunately that doesn't exist here.

Killer Pigeon · 26-01-2011 03:38AM

Voltwad wrote: »

Collective bargaining is the way forward but unfortunately that doesn't exist here.

Shure we'll make it work!!!

DoesNotCompute · 26-01-2011 11:55AM

Lars1916 wrote: »

The Christian Democrats in Ireland? Sh***, I moved away from Germany, when they got into power over there :mad:...but hopefully, it's something different

Actually, Fine Gael are Christian Democrats (at the very least on paper)

DoesNotCompute · 26-01-2011 12:00PM

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Google the SP or the SWP, who form the core membership of the ULA, both are revolutionary socialist parties. We have slightly different ideologies but essentially the revolution involves bringing the means of production into public ownership, worker's councils would be set up to democratically decide the direction of the workplace and so on so forth.

Out of curiosity, how does the ULA propose to bring the means of production into public ownership? I assume it's through non-violent means?

wee truck big driver · 26-01-2011 10:36PM

jonnny68 wrote: »

Vote for whoever you want but as most people know Fianna Fail are the ones responsible for this mess we are in so im amazed anyone could possibly vote for them, they will get decimitated in this election there's no doubt about it,i know of some people who voted for them all their lives but wont be voting for them again!

IMO the best scenairo would be for a coalition of Independents and Labour to be at the helm,at least then you would have someone like Eamon Gilmore who IMO is the best of a very bad bunch as Taoiseach and then other people a mixture of both Labour and Independents as ministers, put it this way they cannot do any worse than previous Governments have done, no matter who gets in nothing going to be perfect and you'll always get people who will bitch and moan that's human nature but certainly it would be a start to what is a long road to recovery.

fianna fail or responsible for the mess really so the other parties with the exception of sinn fein werent dishing out the same policies as fianna fail maybe you cant remember the last election. lets see who is really responsible sure the goverment. the unions (increased wage demands pricing us out of international job market increasing inflation and creating the rip off culture) the banks (dishing out money without the necesary collateral and ability to pay). the media ( creating the hype about the alleged celtic tiger leading people into the false believe that they had loads of money and deserved more and that it would never end) but mostly joe public ( believing that a country with a tiny population on an island on the outskirts of europe with no natural resources was a leading economy and where living a lifestyle that we had no right to and took this as a given getting big wages paying little tax and paying twice as much for a house as any other country in europe) amazingly enough all of the above or the ones doing the most screaming about fianna fail now no surpise ther have yet to meet any irish person politican or otherwise to put there hands up and say i fcuked up

angeleyes · 27-01-2011 11:29PM

I am voting FG 1 2 3 and thats it. If Labour do come to canvass my area will give a 4 - but if they don't not giving it. My DH is voting FG as well.

Weyhey · 13-02-2011 11:58AM

AT the moment it looks like:
ULA
Sinn Fein
Labour

The Stroller · 13-02-2011 12:12PM

Labour 1,2,3. No vote for FG. The thought of an FG majority government is frightening.

ilovesleep · 13-02-2011 12:24PM

I think my number 1 vote will be going to labour.

Number 2, 3, 4, I have no idea. Maybe my number 2 might go to SF to rock the boat up a bit. FG then. then independants.

KIERAN1 · 13-02-2011 01:14PM

I was a 'FG' supporter in 2007, but I will be changing my vote in this election. I can't support parties that make decisions to take monies from the very poorest of our society, to pay private banks on losses they've made in the Irish housing market. It morally wrong, and cruel, and it does show what kind of society we have become in Ireland.

I will be for the first time in my life be voting Sinn Féin, as I see no other choice but them. There the Only party showing commonsense in this election, and not to be sensationalist, but if FG do get in expect more of the same dumb down politics we got from FF, honestly if the people in the main political parties are the brightest of our society, what does that say about our education system, like have we any out of the box thinkers in our political system beside Sinn Féin!

HQvhs · 13-02-2011 02:04PM

I will probably vote FG1,2,3 and Labour or Greens thereafter. Eamon Ryan is in my constituency, and whilst I like him and think he would be a valuable member of any Dáil, ultimately I want an FG-led government.

brendankelly · 14-02-2011 12:14AM

People are beginning to realise that FF and FG are 2 sides of the same a*se and Labour are the bit in the middle. All 3 want us, our children and our children's children to pay the debts of foreign gamblers (the foreign bondholders). Fis Nua and SF are the only parties that are opposed to paying other peoples bills.

Fis Nua (New Vision) is to create a new sustainable economy based on our natural resources (I.e. gas and oil, forestry, agriculture, solar power, wave energy), and to give a voice to local communities in decision making by having Aarhus Convention (Local Agenda 21) transposed into Irish Law.

http://fisnua.com

Killer Pigeon · 14-02-2011 12:30AM

brendankelly wrote: »

People are beginning to realise that FF and FG are 2 sides of the same a*se and Labour are the bit in the middle. All 3 want us, our children and our children's children to pay the debts of foreign gamblers (the foreign bondholders). Fis Nua and SF are the only parties that are opposed to paying other peoples bills.

Fis Nua (New Vision) is to create a new sustainable economy based on our natural resources (I.e. gas and oil, forestry, agriculture, solar power, wave energy), and to give a voice to local communities in decision making by having Aarhus Convention (Local Agenda 21) transposed into Irish Law.

http://fisnua.com

How would I know if I'm voting FN or not when all their posters say "Independent"?

Nothingbetter2d · 14-02-2011 07:30AM

lets let him run Ireland... he aint much worse than Fianna Fail were

and if Labour get in well have taxes like mugabe's

Who will you be voting for in the next general election.

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