Fianna Fáil Leadership Challenge Underway

Absurdum · 16-01-2011 06:43PM

what an utter farce :rolleyes:

sligopark · 16-01-2011 06:43PM

mewso wrote: »

A selfish Green Party trying deperately to gain some Kudos might walk out now before FF can end it all themselves.

I doubt it they want to force another religious green tax on us and then blame FF

clown bag wrote: »

Martin press conference in an hour.

really? Where?

Biggins · 16-01-2011 06:43PM

Cowans decision and motion of support tactic has left the party in a mess.

If Cowan wins, Martin is up the creek as regards taking over after the GE.
If Cowan loses, he's out of a job anyway after the GE because no one (lets be honest, they all want their day at the top seat) really in the party wants him there as the head man any longer.

We know the party internally is split - and they know we know it - so this show of holding a support motion is a joke and can only be seen as a political manoeuvre by Cowen for Cowen to try and remain on after the GE - that is with one less opponent out of the way, Martin.

sligopark · 16-01-2011 06:44PM

Biggins wrote: »

Cowans decision and motion of support tactic has left the party in a mess.

If Cowan wins, Martin is up the creek as regards taking over after the GE.

have to agree - its a poisoned chalice to be sure - I hate to say it but ff deserve it

Byron85 · 16-01-2011 06:48PM

Apparently Micheál Martin is calling his own press conference later on this evening or tonight.

From Twitter: Reported on RTE that Foreign Affairs minister Micheal Martin is to give a press conference at about 7pm

Mr.Micro · 16-01-2011 06:49PM

Just goes to show how weak the pretenders to the FF throne are. They can't depose Biffo. Martin is just a smirking boyo, Lenny pure clown and Hanifin prim and proper will little know how. Its pure farce and the panto season is almost over.

naughto · 16-01-2011 06:54PM

Byron85 wrote: »

Apparently Micheál Martin is calling his own press conference later on this evening or tonight.

From Twitter: Reported on RTE that Foreign Affairs minister Micheal Martin is to give a press conference at about 7pm

is it being telivised does any one know??

Byron85 · 16-01-2011 06:56PM

naughto wrote: »

is it being telivised does any one know??

It'll have to be. It's too important not to.

lorcan122 · 16-01-2011 06:57PM

RTE hasn't said anything if they don't televise it, it will probably be on at the 9 o clock news.

Biggins · 16-01-2011 06:58PM

Byron85 wrote: »

Apparently Micheál Martin is calling his own press conference later on this evening or tonight.

From Twitter: Reported on RTE that Foreign Affairs minister Micheal Martin is to give a press conference at about 7pm

So he had two choices.

A. Martin to cower and say words to the effect "well for the good of the party and the state we should all unite behind our leader and I will be voting for him in the motion of confidence"

or

B. Have balls to say what he's thinking and maybe what over 80% of this country wants - and thats for this fiasco to end with Cowen at head of the Titanic party!

naughto · 16-01-2011 07:00PM

iam thinking it will be option a i hope its b but he has no balls to go for b

Byron85 · 16-01-2011 07:02PM

Biggins wrote: »

So he had two choices.

A. Martin to cower and say words to the effect "well for the good of the party and the state we should all unite behind our leader and I will be voting for him in the motion of confidence"

or

B. Have balls to say what he's thinking and maybe what over 80% of this country wants - and thats for this fiasco to end with Cowen at head of the Titanic party!

I think he'll challenge Cowen. Martin, along with Lenihan and Hanafin, were very conspicuous by their absence at Cowen's press conference. We can all be sure that there's a great deal of cloak and dagger shenanigans taking place right now.

lorcan122 · 16-01-2011 07:03PM

naughto wrote: »

iam thinking it will be option a i hope its b but he has no balls to go for b

I agree FF are just a bunch of headless chickens, having no clue what they are doing, it is a shame Lenihan would not run for Leader of the party, the only one with the slightest bit of brain.

Biggins · 16-01-2011 07:03PM

Byron85 wrote: »

I think he'll challenge Cowen. Martin, along with Lenihan and Hanafin, were very conspicuous by their absence at Cowen's press conference. We can all be sure that there's a great deal of cloak and dagger shenanigans taking place right now.

I suspect a lot of "you look after me - I'll look after you" and favour reminders are being thrown about

Brenireland · 16-01-2011 07:06PM

Michael Martin has resigned/only joking

kenco · 16-01-2011 07:08PM

So looks like Martin has been forced into a position. Doesn't instill confidence. Looks like his chance was last week and now he will lead the 'nos' but won't take over if they succeed. Hanafin must be very happy but there needs to be more from the cabinet that Martin for this to work...

Waiting for the "you'll burst the party" speil from this era Gerry Collins. Come on down Coughlan!!! Or maybe O'Keefe!!

Dirk Gently · 16-01-2011 07:08PM

Martin conference is at 7:30pm.

lorcan122 · 16-01-2011 07:10PM

Coughlan would be the worst thing for the country, she is a total idiot, she was minster for employment, but she got demoted to education, just shows how bad she is, i would rather have joan burton than her.

rco2000 · 16-01-2011 07:12PM

clown bag wrote: »

Martin conference is at 7:30pm.

Will be streamed live on rte's website?

hotmail.com · 16-01-2011 07:14PM

He has to be announcing a challenge, surely.

Otherwise he might as well retire.

Dirk Gently · 16-01-2011 07:15PM

rco2000 wrote: »

Will be streamed live on rte's website?

don't know. BBC news will be showing it though.

InchicoreDude · 16-01-2011 07:27PM

Martins conference hasnt even reached the rte website yet as far as I can see. Newstalk currently have talking history on. Anyone know where I can catch this (Other than BBC cos I only have access to net at the moment)

KevIRL · 16-01-2011 07:27PM

So I assume today was all like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaUPDYXQUtw

theg81der · 16-01-2011 07:33PM

This is bloody embarrasing. These guys are a load a spuds, they are literally ridiculous!!!

Not even the remote posibility of anyone decent to take over. It`d be scary if it wasn`t so funny.

naughto · 16-01-2011 07:35PM

what chanel is it on??

InchicoreDude · 16-01-2011 07:36PM

Who was the guy to cowen's right in his conference?

rco2000 · 16-01-2011 07:37PM

kicks off at 7.45pm

Brussels Sprout · 16-01-2011 07:37PM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Who was the guy to cowen's right in his conference?

FF party whip

Killer Pigeon · 16-01-2011 07:38PM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Who was the guy to cowen's right in his conference?

Probably just another lick arse.

Killer Pigeon · 16-01-2011 07:39PM

rco2000 wrote: »

kicks off at 7.45pm

Is it on TV?

Fianna Fáil Leadership Challenge Underway

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