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What Rifle to get for mostly Fox Shooting??

  • 17-12-2010 01:07PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭


    As the title suggests i want to get a rifle for fox shooting only done i little bit of target shooting wit .22s be4 its mostly shotgun shooting i do but i sick of not geting foxs within range to have a safeshot with the shotgun so i have decieded i want a shotgun so why type should i get?it will be mostly foxes i will be shooting.. i have 800euro for rifle and scope limted i no but hopefully i can pick up a good secondhand outfit??would appreciate any replys thanks in advance ross:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭RJ59


    so i have decieded i want a shotgun?

    sory dat should be rifle:o:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    Get yourself a .204 and you will never look back;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭RJ59


    how much would 1 of them set me back could u recomand any gud gunshops?iam based in offaly but can travel anywhere to get the rite rifle;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭rugerman


    i have 204 in cz for 350 in kilkenny but check for ammo availability b4 u make any purchace on any caliber


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    you wont go wrong with a .223 for price and availability of rounds.
    a .223 will do anything a .204 will do but cheaper

    as far as a rifle is concerned you cant go wrong with tikka. and you could pick up a new tikka t3 lite for €750. and i'm sure you could pick up a second hand one with a scope for handy money.

    having said that. there are loads of good rifles out there going for handy money, you need to get out there to the shops and see what feels good for you in your hands.

    most modern rifles are accurate and reliable so its just a matter of what suits you ;)

    enjoy the search for your rifle and keep us informed:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭RJ59


    Thanks for the quickfeedback I don't have much experience but I have lot interest in shooting so iam keen to learn so it's a 203? I should be looking out for??any particular makes of guns??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭gary29428


    I have a Brno 22 Hornet and find it excellent on Foxes, not to load and packs a good punch. Have had it for about 10yrs now and can't fault it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    poulo6.5 wrote: »
    .........a .223 will do anything a .204 will do but cheaper ..........

    No it won't :rolleyes:;)

    Get a 204 Ruger. Best medicine for foxes :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭RJ59


    Rite 204 it is:)..any 1 no any shops dat have a good selection of these guns?any what makes should I be looking for?? Da foxes in offaly won't be safe for much longer lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    No it won't :rolleyes:;)

    Get a 204 Ruger. Best medicine for foxes :cool:

    i beg to differ BS.
    it may pack slightly more punch but at hunting ranges it doesn't kill them any deader than a 223.
    not to mention barrel burn and availability of rounds and price and choice. the list goes on.

    i have shot and killed fox out to 400yplus with my .223. what more do you need.

    it the interest of fairness i will say that the .204 is a great foxing round as is the 220swift and the .222 and .22hornet. or even the .22-250 or .243. if you want to stalk deer as well.

    but as a foxing round and taking price and availability into account and reasonable safe shooting distances lets say 300y or so. what do all the others do that the .223 cant do.
    NOTHING. a hit from any of the rounds mentioned above will end in the same way only the .223 can do it cheaper and with more choice of ammo;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    No it won't :rolleyes:;)

    Get a 204 Ruger. Best medicine for foxes :cool:

    A .223 for a guy on a budget is his best bed as remington ammo can be purchased for €14 for 20. .204 ammo is double that.

    If you refer to the poster, he is young with a small budget.
    If you can afford it buy a .204, however if you only have €10-20 to spoend per week on Ammo a .223 is cheaper run

    Remington secondhand SPS and a scope should be just about got for €800 depending on dealer and scope

    In fact I would recommend a Remington VTR.223 as it is very handy size for lamping with a 20" barrel. My cousin used one with my Old Nikon Monarch scope 2.5-10x56 very successfully ;)
    However that could go over budget for OP.

    A CZ.223 might be the cheapest and more versatile than a Hornet.
    From a novices perspective, relatively flat trajectory may be easier to learn to shoot with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭RJ59


    Seriously thanks so much for all the advice iam on a bit of a budget it's just iam an unemployed app sparky so don't have big money for an outfit I probs would have 20-30 a week for amo so I myte go for a 223


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    RJ59 wrote: »
    Seriously thanks so much for all the advice iam on a bit of a budget it's just iam an unemployed app sparky so don't have big money for an outfit I probs would have 20-30 a week for amo so I myte go for a 223

    what part of the country are you from. i'm not to far from bunny shooter if you want maybe you could meet up with us and have a look at what my .223 is like compared to BS's .204. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭RJ59


    Yea mate dat would be klass Iam in tullamore :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭BELOWaverageIQ


    Go to Des in outdoor sports in Mullingar 044-9333572, sound guy, he will sort you out with a second hand .223
    .223 ammo cost and availability is much better than .204


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭RJ59


    Thanks I just rang him he only has one secondhand and it's 1500 hundred dats twice my limit ha gonna be hard to find myself 1 I think:/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭BELOWaverageIQ


    Mate of mine has a Remington .223 he is looking to sell, pm me your contact details
    Mark


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    A .223 for a guy on a budget is his best bed as remington ammo can be purchased for €14 for 20. .204 ammo is double that.

    If you refer to the poster, he is young with a small budget.
    If you can afford it buy a .204, however if you only have €10-20 to spoend per week on Ammo a .223 is cheaper run

    Remington secondhand SPS and a scope should be just about got for €800 depending on dealer and scope

    In fact I would recommend a Remington VTR.223 as it is very handy size for lamping with a 20" barrel. My cousin used one with my Old Nikon Monarch scope 2.5-10x56 very successfully ;)
    However that could go over budget for OP.

    A CZ.223 might be the cheapest and more versatile than a Hornet.
    From a novices perspective, relatively flat trajectory may be easier to learn to shoot with.
    .204 hornady ammo is from 22-25 euro a box .The cheap .223 ammo is exactly that for a reason !!This topic on fox calibers seems to come up often and just to say that ive had a very good .223 before i got a .204 and the .223 is just simply not in the same league ,sorry tac.Either way both will kill foxes well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    poulo6.5 wrote: »
    i beg to differ BS.
    it may pack slightly more punch but at hunting ranges it doesn't kill them any deader than a 223.
    not to mention barrel burn and availability of rounds and price and choice. the list goes on.

    i have shot and killed fox out to 400yplus with my .223. what more do you need..............

    I assume you have never used a 204 or put one up against a 223. I have ;) 204 beats the socks off 223 in the wind, less recoil and longer barrel life if new info is correct :cool:
    poulo6.5 wrote: »
    what part of the country are you from. i'm not to far from bunny shooter if you want maybe you could meet up with us and have a look at what my .223 is like compared to BS's .204. :D

    BS currently is using a 220 Swift but has bought a 204 :cool: Wouldn't take a 223 if I got it for free :p To be fair 223 has the edge on cheap ammo BUT most of it is crap over 100-150 yards

    Remmy VSSF in 220 Swift for sale at €500 if your interested ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    Remmy VSSF in 220 Swift for sale at €500 if your interested ;)
    is that just the rifle or is there a scope included???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    I assume you have never used a 204 or put one up against a 223. I have ;) 204 beats the socks off 223 in the wind, less recoil and longer barrel life if new info is correct :cool:



    BS currently is using a 220 Swift but has bought a 204 :cool: Wouldn't take a 223 if I got it for free :p To be fair 223 has the edge on cheap ammo BUT most of it is crap over 100-150 yards

    Remmy VSSF in 220 Swift for sale at €500 if your interested ;)

    correct. i never shot a .204. i have used a .220. and yes they are more powerful than a .223 but to what advantage.

    i would love to compare them side by side and as you know i only live a few miles from you so we could go for a fox some evening if you want.
    i have an open mind and i will stand corrected if the .204 can do anything my .223 cant do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr




    Great .204 rugger video







    Mod Edit - Done that for ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,207 ✭✭✭clivej


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4X25ZjJKE

    Great .204 rugger video

    (wouldnt embed for me!)

    There you go ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4X25ZjJKE

    Great .204 rugger video

    (wouldnt embed for me!)

    its easy find exceptional shots on youtube. and i'm not doubting the power of a .204 but i am saying it is not as versatile as a .223

    bullets from 40gr - 75gr hunting and target types. priced from €10-€30 for all needs

    here is a video of a lad using a semiauto rifle not a target rifle hitting a target at some distance

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B9NkQldeu0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    Ah i no but thats just one of my fav youtube clips so couldnt resist puttin it up:D

    both will kill a fox equally well out to 300/400, wouldnt think many foxes are shot past that distance in this country anyway

    PS, how do you embed the clip???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭Anto...


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4X25ZjJKE

    Great .204 rugger video

    (wouldnt embed for me!)
    unbelievable shot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭sikastag


    Glensman on this forum has a Schmidt & Bender 6 x 42 for sale for €400 in the for sale/wanted section.
    Surprised their arm hasnt been pulled off yet for that one!
    If you could stretch your budget to maybe €500 for second hand rifle, couple that with the S&B scope youre on to a winner. Tikka i would recommend because i use them and am very happy with them, but plenty of others out there. If youre buying new, spend money on your scope if you can. Good luck with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    tomcat220t wrote: »
    .204 hornady ammo is from 22-25 euro a box .The cheap .223 ammo is exactly that for a reason !!This topic on fox calibers seems to come up often and just to say that ive had a very good .223 before i got a .204 and the .223 is just simply not in the same league ,sorry tac.Either way both will kill foxes well.

    I was speaking pure economically.

    The OP like many; said he was on a budget.
    Out to 200yards (~generic fox range max at might) the cheap ammo will still function; for as little as €10 a box.
    One of my mates only uses Wolf ammo for price reasons solely.

    If the OP says he can afford €22-25 a box then go .204.;)
    If not, then .223

    Off thread I got permission to shoot 2-3 farms today just by stopping to chat a farmer who was out foddering sheep :D

    So my .223,Nightforce scope,LED LENSER P7 will be out in force tonight.

    Snow on the ground means the Mardaí Rua will be on the move


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭No6


    I have found the foxes very scarce around here at night in the cold and snowy weather, you'd see more during the day when you've got no gun with you!!!!:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭declan1980


    not all cheap ammo is crap. a mate of mine uses only remington umc 45gr hollow points at €15 a box, in a cz 527 varmint
    he shoots in excess of 200 foxes a year from 20 yards to 350 yards and i have rarely seen him miss, so saying cheap ammo is only good for 100-150 yards is bull.
    you'll be able to find more second hand .223's than .204's so that is a good reason for getting a .223 as you'll be able to find some good deals out there


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