Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

JohnMc1 · 09-12-2010 01:02PM

Xluna wrote: »

Every second Tuesday. Brawler pack is out 21 of Dec. Shadoloo on New years day and Classic pack is out on the 15 of Jan.

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/11/05/super-street-fighter-iv-ultra-costume-packs-have-new-release-dates/

Thanks Xluna. I've lost track of these costume packs.

Yreval · 16-12-2010 04:20PM

Daigo Umehara thinks Yun, Yang and Fei will be top in SSF4AE:

http://shoryuken.com/content/notes-about-super-street-fighter-4-arcade-edition-team-mad-catz-daigo-umehara-2795/

Also, keep a close eye on A-cho's YouTube channel - they will be uploading match videos from a session that finished, as I type this, about two hours ago.

Dreddybajs · 16-12-2010 04:39PM

awesome, i've been hoping all along that Yun would be top tier.

K.O.Kiki · 16-12-2010 04:42PM

I've seen the Adon buffs.
I'm excited.

Speed Boat · 16-12-2010 05:12PM

I knew fei would be near top. I know it's still early days but he just seems to be very good on paper in AE.

Azza · 16-12-2010 05:18PM

Mago reportedly said the same a little while back. On paper Fei Long was looking top tier.

Seems Daigo is scared of Zangief.

Kim1234 was commenting on the Bison changes. Seems to think Bison's ultra 2 is actually better now and that the LK SK nerf isn't too bad. Looks like Bison can still get one loop out of it before the push back puts him out of range.

Doctor DooM · 16-12-2010 05:26PM

Guile still looking upper mid. Good stuff, he's alright but I get rid of the top tier bull ****

The Hound · 16-12-2010 05:47PM

Its good that fei is looking top as hes a fun character. Strange that he thinks Ken will be the best shoto. The game seems fairly balanced now. As an Adon player I would have just liked his wake up to be nerfed, with the buffs he got he's going to be Top along with a few others imo.

Doctor DooM · 17-12-2010 09:16AM

Alot of discussion over what Daigo meant by the Guile comments.

Looks like some of the more ridiculous air throws no longer work.

Despite what some people might think I'm actually not that heart broken about this, those ridiculous air throws tend to be something I throw out when I've fecked up and just maybe they'll get you out of it.

Apparently FK FADC U2 still works but does a pitiful amount of damage which, along with Guile's poorer meter gain makes it pretty much non viable.

I'm kinda ok with that, there were always better damage options for Guile anyways.

Alot of Guile's on SRK are talking about picking up Gouken as a counter pick for Sim. The fight is looking alot harder for Guile.

Ken B · 17-12-2010 10:30AM

Any vids/news about evil Ryu/oni gouki yet?

I can't believe I'm interested in this......lol.

Doctor DooM · 17-12-2010 11:17AM

Ken B wrote: »

Any vids/news about evil Ryu/oni gouki yet?

I can't believe I'm interested in this......lol.

Nothing I've read yet anywho.

J.I.M. · 17-12-2010 11:24AM

GUY
"• Target Combo seems to connect easier on crouching opponents.
• The new and improved 3 frame Crouching Light Kick is really good."

Mmmm, so sexy. That 3 frame cr.lk is gonna make his run-stop pressure even better. The TC hitting on crouchers was more of a fix than a buff, as it was supposed to do that. AE patch can't come fast enough (if it comes)

Placebo · 17-12-2010 01:34PM

Looking at the charselect screen, im under the impression that there is only 2 new characters ? For some reason i was expecting [not wanting] more. Maybe some blogs/interviews led on more.
I hope they dont add extra chars to the DLC and have the arcades without them [arcades can update over network though?no?]

Doctor DooM · 17-12-2010 01:46PM

Placebo wrote: »

Looking at the charselect screen, im under the impression that there is only 2 new characters ? For some reason i was expecting [not wanting] more. Maybe some blogs/interviews led on more.
I hope they dont add extra chars to the DLC and have the arcades without them [arcades can update over network though?no?]

I hope they don't dick around too much with characters. They risk segmenting the scene again. Daigo's already said he's not bothered with AE much until it's available to download for all as it can't be adopted as tournament standard until then.

... according to Mike Ross!

Placebo · 17-12-2010 01:49PM

according to TOKIDO [sp?] hes flyin away with his YUN 1OK BP points or some thing. A+, in the arcades !

Dunjohn · 17-12-2010 02:16PM

Man, it's wierd to see a fighting game cab with only one set of controls on it. It's been years since there's been a proper arcade scene in this country. Is link-up the standard now?

Placebo · 17-12-2010 02:24PM

yuns moves
http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/images/AC_inst04.pdf
http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/images/cl_yun.pdf

more pdfs here
http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/AC/download.html

Sairus · 17-12-2010 02:38PM

Link up has generally been the standard in Japan if I recall correctly.

And apperantly Akuma was a timed unlock character in Vanilla for arcades, so Oni and Evil Ryu could be on a similar system.

GorySnake · 17-12-2010 02:43PM

General opinion is that Oni Akuma and Evil Ryu are boss characters only, and if there are any additional extra characters, they'll be on a time release

Doctor DooM · 17-12-2010 02:45PM

Sairus wrote: »

Link up has generally been the standard in Japan if I recall correctly.

And apperantly Akuma was a timed unlock character in Vanilla for arcades, so Oni and Evil Ryu could be on a similar system.

Yeah I remember reading in the (physical) EGM around Super's release that's it's in general always been their prefered way of doing it. Sitting next to your opponent is a Western preference.

K.O.Kiki · 17-12-2010 03:06PM

It's because the Japanese are too polite pussies, so they wouldn't drop into the seat next to a player already in a game.

The first link-up cabs were SF2 hack-jobs.

bush · 17-12-2010 03:11PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

It's because the Japanese are too polite pussies, so they wouldn't drop into the seat next to a player already in a game.

The first link-up cabs were SF2 hack-jobs.

I remember hearing that SF didnt take off at all until they got the link up cabs

GorySnake · 17-12-2010 03:13PM

http://www.youtube.com/user/Bl34tm4n

Some AE Yun and Yang videos here. All I've seen of the Yun player so far is: Run away - build meter - activate Genei Jin - drop combo.

bush · 17-12-2010 03:15PM

GorySnake wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/user/Bl34tm4n

Some AE Yun and Yang videos here. All I've seen of the Yun player so far is: Run away - build meter - activate Genei Jin - drop combo.

Man theres even scrubs in Japan.

Placebo · 17-12-2010 03:15PM

GorySnake wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/user/Bl34tm4n

Some AE Yun and Yang videos here. All I've seen of the Yun player so far is: Run away - build meter - activate Genei Jin - drop combo.

watched that earlier, that wouldnt work against characters with fast projectiles

bush · 17-12-2010 03:16PM

That meter building is pathetic.

GorySnake · 17-12-2010 03:19PM

Placebo wrote: »

watched that earlier, that wouldnt work against characters with fast projectiles

Yun's Palm destroys projectiles, you can see it in the Cody video when he Palms the first rock of an EX rock and gets hit by the second.

I'd say it would be useful against characters who cant approach and punish quickly enough, the Cody player eventually copped on and used Ruffian to punish it.

Doctor DooM · 17-12-2010 03:23PM

GorySnake wrote: »

Yun's Palm destroys projectiles, you can see it in the Cody video when he Palms the first rock of an EX rock and gets hit by the second.

I'd say it would be useful against characters who cant approach and punish quickly enough, the Cody player eventually copped on and used Ruffian to punish it.

It's going to be like reflects with Rose I think for me, will have to follow the boom in to stop him from doing random palmy thingies.

Bloody 3rd strike characters coming over here with their AYE AYE AYEs and their meter buildings! :P

Placebo · 17-12-2010 03:27PM

Yun's Palm negates projectiles in the way that Dictator's Psycho Crusher and Rufus' Galactic Tornado does. You'll have to get used to the timing, and hopefully eat a few ultras on trying to spam it. Also with super, it was dangerous in sf3 cause he was fast so couldnt jump around, not sure with this.

Dreddybajs · 17-12-2010 03:37PM

They obviously wanted him to be able to use super a few times in a match (he gets it 3 times vs the Cody) so gave him the crazy meter building. Divekick, 123 xx dash punch gives him like half a bar lol. :pac: Only thing is it doesn't look like genei jin has the juggle potential it does in 3s as nothing bounces them as high on hit, so you'll have to go for resets a lot more during it (probably a good idea anyway due to the damage scaling).

I'm pretty happy with how he looks so far especially after the initial reports of people guessing he'd be solidly mid.

Also, Yang is able to feint his palm attack, so I wouldn't recommend trying anything too ballsy when you see it in case you're being baited.

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