Online FPS Overrated?

Qwert1 · 04-12-2010 07:55PM #1

Anyone else agree that the whole fps online experience is overrated? Don't understand the obsession with playing COD, Halo, Battlefield etc. online to earn worthless achievements. Shouldn't designers focus on developing a consistent long-lasting game campaign instead of the five-hour ones tacked on as an afterthought to a monotonous online slugfest we're getting in this generation? Just interested to know what people think.

deathrider · 04-12-2010 08:02PM

I think the last generation or so of FPS games are highly over-rated in gerenal... and that's even before this explosion of online really hit them. They all got very realistic, and nine times out of ten, they are war based. Personally, I'm quite bored with the constant flow of war games, and I don't think I've really enjoyed one since the first two Medal Of Honour games back on the PS1.

OctavarIan · 04-12-2010 08:04PM

You leave Battlefield out of this. :mad:

Polar101 · 04-12-2010 08:27PM

OctavarIan wrote: »

You leave Battlefield out of this. :mad:

Exactly. I don't play it to unlock achievements, but because it's so much fun.

Jazzy · 04-12-2010 08:45PM

play quake

calex71 · 04-12-2010 08:47PM

Half-Life 2 and it's glorious orange box was a last console based FPS that got any significant amount of my time. Throughly enjoyed it's single player campaign and episodes, then you had team fortress for a multi player jaunt and portal for variety. Nothing came even remotely close for me in terms of value for money or enjoyment. Even if you split it into single games they would still hold up.

All the others that have come in the last 2 years or so have either been jumping on the call of duty band wagon or are call of duty games which have been stale since the cod 2

(all my opinion, of course I realise some people actually quite like cod:mw etc)

Actually Left for Dead was a worthy FPS that does deserve merit in the age of cod clones, and now i'm remembering games the rainbow 6 vegas games were decent too.

animaal · 04-12-2010 09:12PM

Anybody played Mirror's Edge? It's not really a shooter, but it is first person.

It's one of those games that I picked upon a whim. I really enjoyed it though! Where FPSs are all twich and shoot, this game was more about smooth flowing movement.

Stingerbar · 04-12-2010 09:27PM

When I saw online quake for the first time it was mind blowing..

Just blowing the **** out of random strangers and your friends was great fun

then it got a bit meh..

then I got into the whole clan scene.. teams.. different games.. getting good, playing in leagues, tourneys, competitions what have you

Competing against yourself, your teammates, constantly improving.. and having a laugh at the same time.. it never gets boring

But if you through me into an online fps with randoms.. yeah, after the novelty wears off.. public play just gets boring

deathrider · 04-12-2010 09:43PM

If I'm to load up a FPS, it's uaully classic oldies- Doom, Duke Nukem and the likes. Now having sid that, I have played lot of the latest CoD over the last week or so, but it's mainly because all my frineds back home play it, and it's about the only game I jam on them with. It can be a bit of craic, but nothing mind-blowin, in my oppinion.

Fnz · 04-12-2010 09:56PM

Qwert1 wrote: »

Anyone else agree that the whole fps online experience is overrated? Don't understand the obsession with playing COD, Halo, Battlefield etc. online to earn worthless achievements. Shouldn't designers focus on developing a consistent long-lasting game campaign instead of the five-hour ones tacked on as an afterthought to a monotonous online slugfest we're getting in this generation? Just interested to know what people think.

I think the industry should make games for you! To hell with people who say defeating AI-controlled enemies in a "tacked on" campaign is "worthless". :rolleyes:

BostonB · 04-12-2010 09:57PM

They are all a bit like playing paintball in a shed tbh.

I much prefered games like Deltaforce/Flashpoint which were far more tactical.

04-12-2010 10:08PM

I personally think that online multiplayer has ruined the gaming experience. I don't buy a game to play against other people, I play a game to become engrossed in the story, to get a good deal out of longevity out of the €40+ I've shelled out on the game. It's why I'm so greatful for titles like Oblivion and Fallout, where you could play 50+ hours and not even be halfway through the game.

pablomakaveli · 04-12-2010 10:33PM

I don't like the way developers seem to spend more effort on the multiplayer than the single player anymore. The last single player campaign i really enjoyed was COD2.

I do like multiplyer especially BFBC2 but it'd be nice to see more effort on the single player campaigns in FPS.

VenomIreland · 04-12-2010 10:57PM

Team Fortress 2 is absolutely wonderful fun, as long as you steer clear of the whiny forums.

Stupidly Naked · 05-12-2010 04:06PM

Qwert1 wrote: »

Anyone else agree that the whole fps online experience is overrated? Don't understand the obsession with playing COD, Halo, Battlefield etc. online to earn worthless achievements. Shouldn't designers focus on developing a consistent long-lasting game campaign instead of the five-hour ones tacked on as an afterthought to a monotonous online slugfest we're getting in this generation? Just interested to know what people think.

The vast majority of players who play those games play them simply because that's what their friends do. They don't associate the good times with the game, but in reality the times were good because of their friends reactions or the conversations during.
My friends who game are extremely competitive, we all prefer Halo3 simply because its far more competitive than CoD. We enjoy a hard game that takes skill and the good times are associated with winning.
So, people are different and a lot of the hype of games ("OMGZORS BLACK OPS IS THE BEST GAME EVAR") is in reality untrue simply because a large part of your enjoyment of a game comes down to the people you game with.
Also, its extremely infuriating that the only FPS that people play are either; Halo, CoD, Battlefield or Killzone.
we need more games like Shadowrun.
Also, Borderlands was a great game for me and its all campaign. You should check it out, you might like it.

PirateShampoo · 05-12-2010 04:53PM

Im sorry but COD: Modern Warfare 1 is a brilliant game.

Retr0gamer · 05-12-2010 05:04PM

Kind of bored of online FPS games since the consoles went on line. I find Halo painfully slow and not rewarding as all compared to stuff like the old Unreal tournaments. Still play the classic Source games on online with my brother when he calls over at the weekends but ever since every FPS started appearing on consoles they have just become so slow to compensate for the lack of keyboard and mouse. This is fine in team based games like L4D and battlefield but for straight up deathmatch it just doesn't work.

I hate the way games have gotten more pseudo realistic with every weapon being a variation on the last one with the only differences being the rate of fire and the power of the bullets. Give me a silly shooter with 2 modes of fire that can be comboed, steerable rocket launchers, rocket jumps etc. Those games require real skill. Compare how plain Halo multiplayer is to something like Tribes with it's skiing skills or quakes rocket jumping lunacy. Even MW1 was a pale immitationof CoD and MOH:AA's multiplayer although the levelling up system and good level design alleviated a lot of that.

Also a big fuck you to Halo 2 for introducing and popularising god awful matchmaking systems. I don't need the computer to find the best game for me at my skill level only to get dumped into a game with 10 players at prestige level and a 300+ ping. I'd rather pick my own server by ping and if I like it maybe get involved in the community around the server.

The only real online FPS innovations seem to be CoD 4's levelling up system and Left 4 Dead getting co-op so right.

noodler · 05-12-2010 05:56PM

Love Battlefield.

One attraction is for those with only an hour or so to spare in an evening.

You are straight into the action and get good bang for your time.

Agricola · 05-12-2010 08:12PM

To me, yes they are overated, but then I would say that. Anytime Ive fired up the MP section of an fps ive found it to be a futile exercise. I rarely buy games when they release and even they rarely buy pure fps's, so invariably I find MP frustrating. Lets face it, Im up against an army of 14 year olds who spend every waking hour honing their skills. They have the reflexes of a caffeine boosted cat. Ive lost count the amount of times Ive been knife killed or dispatched with a pistol while holding an assault rifle or RPG launcher!

I just dont have the required level of interest to work at improving myself in this ultra competitive field, so Ive found Im better off out of it.

Left for Dead is more my thing, really enjoy a blast of that.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 05-12-2010 08:20PM

Online FPS is awesome. I can't think of any single player game that's more fun to play.

KilOit · 05-12-2010 10:50PM

Left 4 Dead 2 is fun with a good group, any you're forced to work together to get through it, unlike cod games were everyone is a solo gun nut working on his k/d

cian1500ww · 05-12-2010 11:33PM

TF2 is good enough fun but play it with friends in a proper team and that's when the game really shines. I've found it very hard to go back to online FPS games like COD after playing it.

Sisko · 06-12-2010 01:17AM

Hasn't been a real battlefield game since Bf2 and Bf2142, since then the battlefield series has been suffering from consolitis.

All these new fps sicken me with the mindless achievement crap and this messed up system where you get a number of kills in a row and you can call in mindless airstrikes and the likes.
They all seem like clones of each other. But this is all a matter of taste.
For people who never got to play PC fps's or people who just prefer to keep things basic and casual I can really see the appeal.

But its starting to look a lot like fifa to me with a new clone every year.

I just hope BF3 does not suffer from consolitis. It really does seem like the quality of FPS has been dumbed down since the consoles got online.

Overrated though? They do what they're supposed to do really, they're only overrated when you compare them to the PC shooters that came before but they're not really meant to be compared.

Really depends more on how much you enjoy multiplayer gaming in general.

Magill · 06-12-2010 02:48AM

I dont see what the problem is ? if you dont like them, dont ****ing play them... its not like 90% of games released this year have been online fps based games !!!!! theres only been 3 or 4 out of what.... 30-40 top rate games.

Sisko · 06-12-2010 03:52AM

Woah don't go postal at the guy!

Well , from his post he seems annoyed that the console FPS games that once concentrated on single player now have only a short 5 hours of single player gameplay and instead the focus is more on the online multilayer.

So I imagine he enjoys the FPSs but feels the multiplayer focus is ruining it for him? So not playing them at all is not exactly what he's looking for.

There seems to be alot of people with this opinion of late and while I've no interest in the games the op mentions , I am a multiplayer fan so for example when theres talk of multiplayer DLC for mass effect 2 I get disapointed when the forums are filled with people yelling "noooooooooooooooooooooooo anything but multiplayer!!!!"

I think what it comes down to is having friends that play games too rather then playing online with randomers.

For example , I love L4D but I couldnt go near that game unless my mates were playing too. So many bad experiences with random online total idiots.

Funglegunk · 06-12-2010 07:47AM

I thought Enemy Territory: Quake Wars was a fantastic game. Perfectly balanced teams, classes and vehicles; a reward system that discouraged (for the most part) lone snipers, kill seekers and rewarded completion of objectives, teamwork and tactics; a generally good community that is unfortunately dwindling.

I loves me some tactical heavy shooters, ET:QW is the only decent one released in the last few years. COD and Battlefield seem to encourage trigger happy loners. Maybe I'm wrong about this?

Hoping Dust 514 will be the next to fit the bill but thats a ways off yet.

BostonB · 06-12-2010 10:32AM

You should be able to use the weapons as they were designed. Rather than a SMG used for sniping and a sight, and a sniper used as close in weapon.

krudler · 06-12-2010 12:00PM

What about the value you get from it? i bought Modern Warfare 2 a few months after its release (had it from day one on 360 but crappy net at the time so never played MP) got it again on PS3 in Feb and I'm still playing it, 24 days worth of play on it now, thats "worthless"? compared to say, Heavy Rain, which I enjoyed, but have played all the way through once. Uncharted 2 got the balance right, fantastic single player and the MP is a blast to play online as well.

Online fps's can be massively rewarding, but it depends on what kind of games you're into to begin with, I wouldnt have the time or patience to play something like Starcraft oe WoW but I play COD and try get better at it, I wouldnt say I'm a fantastic player but I can definitely hold my own in the majority of games I play, and I've had great nights playing with the lads from the COD forum on boards, we nearly all use headsets so with a party theres great banter and people playing as a team as opposed to running around like headless chickens when you play with random public lobbies.

CMpunked · 06-12-2010 12:14PM

I know it isnt a fps, but i always thought GTA-IV had the perfect mix of everything.
There was a great extensive story and the MP had real serious co-op gaming, completing objectives, but then you could have mad craic like running around blowing lads up in cars with RPG's with no reprecussions.

Great fun.

Ross_Mahon · 06-12-2010 12:20PM

The newer FPS games have lots of pace online, Which keeps people happy

gimli2112 · 06-12-2010 12:31PM

It's all down to rewarding you for taking certain actions. The whole leveling up, earning money, points, unlocking stuff etc. This is what makes it addictive. Things flashing up on screen and a big fanfare hook you in subconsciously. There's a programme on BBC about it later.

I'm totally addicted to COD but to actually explain it to a non-believer is very difficult.

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