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Fionn McCumhaill, Cuchulainn, Quenn Maebh, Red Branch Knights...

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  • #32
    Nodin
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    WindSock wrote: »
    I think Leeson would be too old for the role, I thought Ború was meant to be a young chap?

    emmmm no? He was supposed to be in his 80's at clontarf.


  • #33
    WindSock
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    Nodin wrote: »
    emmmm no? He was supposed to be in his 80's at clontarf.

    Oh right. I must murder my source then :pac:


  • #34
    citizen_p
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    they were to make a film about brian boru.

    was to be made by mark mahon, they released a comic on it before they didnt get funding, not surprising.


    edit, already being disscussed, i heard leonardo di caprio waas to be cast at one stage, from somone working on the production


  • #35
    Nodin
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    Mousey- wrote: »
    they were to make a film about brian boru but couldnt get the funding

    was to be made by mark mahoon, they released a comic on it before they didnt get funding.


    edit, already being disscussed, i heard matt damon waas to be cast at one stage, from somone working on the production

    That would explain the absence of the listings then so....ze well has dried.


  • #36
    Nodin
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    WindSock wrote: »
    Oh right. I must murder my source then :pac:


    Harsh but fair.


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  • #37
    Coriolanus
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    Brendan Gleeson for Boru anyway.


  • #38
    citizen_p
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    Nodin wrote: »
    That would explain the absence of the listings then so....ze well has dried.
    edited my last post, think it was leanardo.
    but its understandable that it didnt get funding really, mark mahons last movie, strenght and honour got bad reviews both here and in the US. it won a few awards in film festivals ive never in heard of but got bad reviews.

    i have the first part of the comic and it looked some what tacky.... horns made from bull horns used to signal the village of an attack etc...


  • #39
    Nodin
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    There was a book - "Lion Of Ireland" - a few years back that would be a sounder basis for the movie.


  • #40
    Coriolanus
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    Mousey- wrote: »
    edited my last post, think it was leanardo.
    but its understandable that it didnt get funding really, mark mahons last movie, strenght and honour got bad reviews both here and in the US. it won a few awards in film festivals ive never in heard of but got bad reviews.

    i have the first part of the comic and it looked some what tacky.... horns made from bull horns used to signal the village of an attack etc...
    Sure it wasn't supposed to be one of these?

    http://www.libraryireland.com/images/horn.gif


  • #41
    AntiMatter
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    WindSock wrote: »
    I don't see why our mythological stories couldn't, there is plenty to draw on. It's all about the production of it. Sure look at Braveheart for example. Who would have thought a story about a Scotsman would become so popular?

    I would suggest the anti-establishment, Anglophobe leanings may have contributed more to the success of the movie, than the actual subject matter. That and all the violence.


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  • #42
    WindSock
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    AntiMatter wrote: »
    I would suggest the anti-establishment, Anglophobe leanings may have contributed more to the success of the movie, than the actual subject matter. That and all the violence.

    Do you think we could muster up an anti-establishment, Anglophobic story of the same calibre here?

    Wonder would a 3D film about the famine take off...


  • #43
    northernpower
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    I think they would make for great stories, the "tain bó cuailgne" story could be adopted, it has everything, the story of cu chulainn / setanta could develop alongside it, massive battle scene and depending on what story you read cu chulainn fighting to exhaustion ties himself to a rock, his enemies afraid to approach until a crow lands on his shoulder, signalling to them that cuchulainn is dead, with the right writing it could be epic, though i'd leave out a lot of the magic and leave it more along the lines of braveheart e.g. mortals.

    On another note i remember reading "trinity" by Leon Uris and thinking it would make quite a could talkie if ye left out all the american diddly de di de doh dur dur, so again it would need an irish script writer, or at least a culturally sensitive american one (if there is such a thing)


  • #44
    AntiMatter
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    WindSock wrote: »
    Do you think we could muster up an anti-establishment, Anglophobic story of the same calibre here?

    Wonder would a 3D film about the famine take off...

    You've the bare bones of a story, right there.


  • #45
    maninasia
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    Funnily enough, advances in technology make this a goer, as the full magic of the tales can come to life on the big screen using computer animation. The battle of Connaught and Ulster, Cuchullain , Children of Lir, Tir na nog, Fir Bolg...there's a lot of amazing stories to be put onto the big screen.
    Irish people should celebrate our culture more and have more confidence that this would work. It's all about the story in the end, these stories have been passed on orally for thousands of years...they are good ones!


  • #46
    EverEvolving
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    I love the Children of Lir story, think it make an excellent film for all ages.

    Viggo Mortenson would make a great Brian Boru, I can't think of an Irish actor that would fit the role.


  • #47
    Coriolanus
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    The more I think about it, the more I think it could work.

    Get Jim Fitzpatrick to do the art workups. Michael Scott to do the script/story.


  • #48
    judestynes
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    I thought she was that pirate woman?
    I think your confusing her with Grace O'Malley the pirate queen. Another great character.


  • #49
    Krusader
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    Deirdre & Naoise would be a great tradgic love story to see on the big screen


  • #50
    AlmightyCushion
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    Saila wrote: »
    cool story bro

    Fionn McCumhaill story bro, would have been a lot funnier and been more topical. Poor attempt.


  • #51
    kowloon
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    Nevore wrote: »
    The more I think about it, the more I think it could work.

    Get Jim Fitzpatrick to do the art workups. Michael Scott to do the script/story.

    Does he not have a series of childrens books worthy of filming already?


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  • #52
    Coriolanus
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    kowloon wrote: »
    Does he not have a series of childrens books worthy of filming already?
    He has a few series of childrens books worth filming. Great author, loved him to bits as a kid. I wanna shake his hand, he pretty much single handedly gave me a love of reading. :o


  • #53
    sensibleken
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    Theres a Cuchulainn movie being made at the moment being written by the bloke from horselips. 'Hound' is the title.

    Could go either way


  • #54
    Amhran Nua
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    Ezekiel Shapely Electrician wrote: »
    And I think these are even better stories. Brilliant stories with a hell of a lot of depth that need not be a series but a whole untapped resource of stories that as far as I know have never been brought to the big screen. I would hate to see them be americanised though there is no real set story but al lot of interpretations.
    Yes, this could work really well if its done right, I've always loved the De Dannan stories and the work of Jim Fitzpatrick. We have similar ideas in our cultural policies too. There's so much of the history and mythology of this country that's underused and not just for tourism, in media sales alone it could do very nicely. I'd start out with an animated series then work up to the big screen productions, that's the usual route these things take. You'd need a distinctive "Irish" style of animation though, and you wouldn't have to stick purely with mythology, you could spin off a load of other stuff, like those Sláine stories.


  • #55
    PeggyvB
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    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Personally, i would rather see something like this done as a proper Anime than a live action thing. The Secret of Kells was really nicely done and there is no reason why Ireland couldn't produce more of such films.

    I've thought so too, for a while now. That's why I've started wotking on a Manga that draws on Irish mythology this past year!:D


  • #56
    Monty Burnz
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    Ezekiel Shapely Electrician wrote: »
    We have all heard these stories and fantastic stories they are. Lots of countries have mythology eg England with King Arthur etc but I think these ones are exceptional

    Got to thinking on these tonight and had a chat about them. Learned about them in school which was always one of the more interesting stories, I presume and hope that they are still teaching them

    But after having a whisket there with the aul boy we got on to them and talked (well I talked, he hadn't a clue what I was on about) about the Lord of the Rings and the huge boost that gave New Zealand. It was their biggest employer for a couple of years and has done wonders for their tourism industry. Mainly because it's a cool story that can show off a tremendous landscape.

    And I think these are even better stories. Brilliant stories with a hell of a lot of depth that need not be a series but a whole untapped resource of stories that as far as I know have never been brought to the big screen. I would hate to see them be americanised though there is no real set story but al lot of interpretations.

    Point is they are everything mythology should be, all have depth and morality at their core and amazing imagery and as such have an incredible potential. And I think they would be brilliant to share. And also, of course, that they could employ and boost tourism, moreso than the "I'm three eights Irish" florisa pastel wearing tourists.

    Just a thought
    Have you actually read these stories? I really don't think you could much with them at all as films. The best you could do is take vague themes or archetypes out of them and make up everything else - the dialogue and situations described are usually laughable to a modern audience. Remember, these were oral tales that had to be easily rememebered - they are full of repitition and thin on realism or characterisation. At that point, you'd have so little left, you'd be as well off starting from a clean sheet of paper and making stuff up from scratch.

    Obviously the historical characters are another matter.


  • #57
    Amhran Nua
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Have you actually read these stories? I really don't think you could much with them at all as films. The best you could do is take vague themes or archetypes out of them and make up everything else - the dialogue and situations described are usually laughable to a modern audience. Remember, these were oral tales that had to be easily rememebered - they are full of repitition and thin on realism or characterisation. At that point, you'd have so little left, you'd be as well off starting from a clean sheet of paper and making stuff up from scratch.

    Obviously the historical characters are another matter.
    You've clearly never ready Jim Fitzpatrick's work.


  • #58
    Donal Og O Baelach
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    When I was younger, I used stare at Jim Fitzpatrick's artwork and feel a swelling of pride at out rich heritage, marvelled at the depth of our historical culture and I always became physically aroused at the fine women he drew. It was great. By God he can draw a great arse.

    How about we open a state funded porn studio instead? It's a worldwide billion dollar industry and we could become market leaders.
    We could rebrand FAS into F-ASS and take it from there.


  • #59
    Monty Burnz
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    Amhran Nua wrote: »
    You've clearly never ready Jim Fitzpatrick's work.
    Jim Fitzpatrick's work? I thought we were talking about the original stories? *checks OP* ...yup. The OP was not talking about Jim Fitz, he was talking about the original stories, and so was I.


  • #60
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Ezekiel Shapely Electrician wrote: »
    I would hate to see them be americanised though there is no real set story but al lot of interpretations.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystic_Knights_of_Tir_Na_Nog

    I think it's best if we pretended it never happened ...


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  • #61
    PeggyvB
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystic_Knights_of_Tir_Na_Nog

    I think it's best if we pretended it never happened ...


    Oh God! (tries not to be sick)

    On the other hand, Roar wasn't bad...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roar_%28TV_series%29


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