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Synthesizer for beginner

  • 29-11-2010 07:00PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34


    Hey. Im a guitar player that is interested in going into experimenting with synth sounds (a la prodigy type sounds, varying from d'n'b, electro, dubstep trance to usable pop-ish sounds) I have looked into getting synths like microkorg, novation xiosynth and alesis micron. Which would be best for a beginner, and also, being able to record via usb with synth would be a feature im looking for, im not sure if the microkorg can do this? Any opinion on anything mentioned would be of great help


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Have you ever used a synth before?

    There can be a bit of a learning curve. I've never been into playing around with preset sounds so when I started using them, I threw myself in the deep end programming things from scratch and reading music tech and physics articles on sounds.

    What's your computer like? I'd recommend starting off on a computer with a MIDI controller, simply because it's so easy to do. I use Ableton Live a lot. I find working on a computer easier to learn with than hardware stuff (I have a Roland SH-32 too, which I only use for live stuff). But I know a lot of people wouldn't agree with me and need to have a hardware synth. I map my Korg Nanokontrol to Ableton and program with that.

    Also, if you had a MIDI controller and a softsynth, recording via USB would be no problem at all.

    If you're looking for a hardware synth though, I've haven't heard a bad thing about Microkorgs, Xiosynths or Microns, for what it's worth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 synthbuyer


    I was in a band where our keyboard player was using a korg r3, so thats the only real experience i have with it. I know that the xiosynth is midicontroller and comes free with Ableton live for €325 so i am tempted with that, despite some people comlaining that the thing sounds a bit cold and harsh and can be a bit fiddly but i think i would definetly prefer using a real instrument because i am a practical musician. I'd like to be able to hook up my synth to a P.A and pump out some bass without having to use a computer sometimes.

    My main goal is to be able record at home, on my laptop, messing around with loops and stuff to create some original music, and im using a medion laptop btw. Aldi/lidl yoke!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    synthbuyer wrote: »
    I was in a band where our keyboard player was using a korg r3, so thats the only real experience i have with it. I know that the xiosynth is midicontroller and comes free with Ableton live for €325 so i am tempted with that, despite some people comlaining that the thing sounds a bit cold and harsh and can be a bit fiddly but i think i would definetly prefer using a real instrument because i am a practical musician. I'd like to be able to hook up my synth to a P.A and pump out some bass without having to use a computer sometimes.

    My main goal is to be able record at home, on my laptop, messing around with loops and stuff to create some original music, and im using a medion laptop btw. Aldi/lidl yoke!

    Just from that last paragraph, definitely look into Ableton. Ableton KILLS for live jamming and things like that. I know a lot of people think you can't jam on a computer, but you definitely can. Ableton's session view and Looper instrument are brilliant tools.

    If you were to invest in an audio interface, you could hook your computer up to a PA just as easily. You say you're a 'practical musician', there's nothing impractical about using computers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 synthbuyer


    well, regarding practicality i was thinkin about being able to carry around to practice, gigs potentially which a stand alone would definetly be better for. Have you any experience with novation xiosynth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    synthbuyer wrote: »
    well, regarding practicality i was thinkin about being able to carry around to practice, gigs potentially which a stand alone would definetly be better for.

    I'm just saying, don't cut yourself off from ideas that might be more rewarding or inspiring because you assume a 'stand alone' would make one particular thing easier. It'd be easier to carry, but it might make other things you'd like to do difficult or impossible. Don't write computers off just 'cause you need more than once piece of kit to get it working :)
    synthbuyer wrote: »
    Have you any experience with novation xiosynth?

    Nope, sorry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 synthbuyer


    actually, i was looking at the package for novation and it says that it comes with ableton lite, which seems to be only a teaser for live really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    It seems with VA synths the two most popular are the Microkorg and the Micron. The Micron is said to be better than the Microkorg in a few different ways, but if you have the money a Microkorg R3 would more than likely be better again.

    I'm with El Pron though, unless you're getting an actual analogue synth, you're much better off getting a MIDI controller and a decent VST (there's even a load of decent free synths) than a hardware synth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    unless you're getting an actual analogue synth, you're much better off getting a MIDI controller and a decent VST (there's even a load of decent free synths) than a hardware synth.

    But then you might be enforcing the whole 'analogue is always better than digital' argument. The hardware synth could be an NED Synclavier or a Fairlight CMI or something!

    But if you're talking about Microkorgs or Microns, then yes, probably...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 synthbuyer


    update: bought xiosynth, 325e fairly happy. Downloaded about 400 presets off the web and it cam with ableton 7 LITE which is a very limited version o ableton, but im gonna try find downloads for it, maybe upgrade. The sound of the xiosynth is nice, a bit too modern and hardcore, not a whole lot of easy listening type sounds with a lot of grunge sets ad 3 oscs seems to be a bit for startin off. but apart from tat its fine and can be powred by usb and through the pc. Built in audio interface and the midi controlling is good :)


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