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TUF 12: "Team GSP vs. Team Koscheck" Thread *Spoilers*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    Brookins / Watson is definitely the better fight. Brookins better wrestling, Watson better ground game. Ideal game plan for Brookins is that he keeps it on the feet. I will go for Brookins by UD in a standup fight.

    Johnson / Nam. Apart from Wrestling Nam is the better fighter, he is also quicker and has better cardio. Johnson will obviously try to lay and pray but I see Nam getting out a few times and using his strikes more effectively and efficently. I will go for Nam by SD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭themandan6611


    brookins & johnson for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭livinginkorea


    Nam and Johnson is a tough one to call. Probably they will trade blows until one of them drops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Johnson is silly if he stands and trades with Pham when he has better wrestling. But like someone said, he has to do more when he gets them on the ground than just lay-n-pray. His GnP wasnt great against Leeroy.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    Brookins/Pham in the final I reckon, have brookins to win it out


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭seadnamac


    Koscheck is so pee'd off with all the jiu jitsu guys choking out his team so he just didn't want him to lose by submission. It's fun to read the thread and everyone has the same opinion of Koscheck even after the unedited video was released about him. The editing is catching you guys out. Kos isn't like that at all he is right to say about Dana catering to GSP. The fight to me wasn't entertaining at all. It was Johnson out striking Caceres and then taking him down when he wanted. Don't like Nam as a person but I think he could take Johnson. Brookins won't be able to use his trademark rear-naked against Watson, I'm sure Watson will be able to negate his Jiu Jitsu but I reckon Brookins will take it.
    People here have to realise Dana is playing the pro wrestling card by using Koscheck as the classic heel and GSP as the babyface. Whereas GSP is being sly and underhand and Koscheck is just having one or two over featured immature moments.
    Great move by GSP bringning Freddy Roach in. That makes John Danahan: Black belts go to him to learn Jiu Jitsu (He thought Joe D'Arce the D'Arce Choke!) . Jean-Charles Skarbowsky: Muay Thai expert, Freddie Roach: Boxing Legend and Greg Jackson: Strategist :pac:

    I too would like to see the clip of the guy being knocked out in the house.

    So many things wrong with that post. Presumably you realise what you've seen of Nam has been subject to editing aswell right?


  • Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seadnamac wrote: »
    So many things wrong with that post. Presumably you realise what you've seen of Nam has been subject to editing aswell right?

    I don't draw my opinion of Nam from TUF I've seen multiple reports of his gym and him as a person and they're not positive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 eyegouger


    Yeah, I think it was a disgrace that Sanchez took the asparagus tips!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 eyegouger


    And the fact that Leben pissed on Thacker's bed. Absolutely disgraceful!
    Er.. is this the right post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭seadnamac


    I don't draw my opinion of Nam from TUF I've seen multiple reports of his gym and him as a person and they're not positive.

    Second hand reports? Same principle applies buddy.


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  • Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seadnamac wrote: »
    Second hand reports? Same principle applies buddy.

    The same principle doesn't apply because the UFC are in it to build some drama in the house and get more people watching while the ordinary reports are just to get their opinions heard. I can see where you're coming from but my original point was Koscheck is being made to look worse than he is in order to build the title match more. I may have made some comparisons but the original point was about Koscheck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭sonic.trip


    I think johnson has the potential to win the whole thing, he has good wrestling and power. Nam looks good too but I'm going with a Johnson v Brookins final and johnson to win it!


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    guys why the f does wikipedia have brookins versus Johnson in the finale? complete bs or insider information? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Fighter:_Team_GSP_vs._Team_Koscheck_Finale
    Take down now. But someone had Brookins against Johnson for the final, with a reference. As this was filmed ages ago it's conceivable that someone hanging around the set or whatever knew the result


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Got a shock when Josh Koscheck appeared in the new Dexter episode.

    vlcsnap-2010-11-23-05h02m34s188.png


  • Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Check this out.

    Great promo video.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Daniel2oo9


    Check this out.

    Great promo video.
    Love it! Definitly hyping this fight to the last id say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    You know what.... I must have a bad-streak in me but I just thought to myself:

    "I hope GSP wins by R.N.C. or even a McKenzetine!"


    That would just be awesome!

    DeV.


  • Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DeVore wrote: »
    You know what.... I must have a bad-streak in me but I just thought to myself:

    "I hope GSP wins by R.N.C. or even a McKenzetine!"


    That would just be awesome!

    DeV.

    That is pure evil! :pac::pac::pac:
    Imagine how pissed Kos would be if he lost by Guillotine or R.N.C I think he'd retire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭ormondprop


    DeVore wrote: »
    You know what.... I must have a bad-streak in me but I just thought to myself:

    "I hope GSP wins by R.N.C. or even a McKenzetine!"


    That would just be awesome!

    DeV.
    i like your thinking but i dont think there would be anything more satisfying than see kos knocked out cold


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 6,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭PerrinV2




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,988 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Anybody else notice how the male nurse guy has gone, i'm thinking he was in the background, the production team noticed some needle between him and Kos, then they brought him to the front and made him sit with GSP's team at the fight pics.
    He did what they wanted and had a scrap wit Kos, now he's gone again.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Surprised they used Daley in that clip, I seriously doubt he's too happy about it either.


  • Posts: 3,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jayteecork wrote: »
    Surprised they used Daley in that clip, I seriously doubt he's too happy about it either.

    They've a right to use him in a video about Koscheck. He fought and lost a number 1 contender fight, any hype they're trying to create about Koscheck they're gonna use Daley, his face was more hidden than the others though.
    Anyone any predictions on the wrestling side of things? GSP overwhelm Koscheck with wrestling? Or vice versa?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,988 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    They've a right to use him in a video about Koscheck. He fought and lost a number 1 contender fight, any hype they're trying to create about Koscheck they're gonna use Daley, his face was more hidden than the others though.
    Anyone any predictions on the wrestling side of things? GSP overwhelm Koscheck with wrestling? Or vice versa?

    IMO this is Georgies in whatever way he chooses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭sonic.trip


    jayteecork wrote: »
    Got a shock when Josh Koscheck appeared in the new Dexter episode.

    vlcsnap-2010-11-23-05h02m34s188.png

    haha brilliant, off topic: but that was a great episode of Dexter :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭sonic.trip


    That is pure evil! :pac::pac::pac:
    Imagine how pissed Kos would be if he lost by Guillotine or R.N.C I think he'd retire.

    imagine he got choked out like his team...carlsberg don't do dreams but if they did.............. :)

    I hope GSP would just knock him out like BJ done on Saturday, 21 seconds, wham, bam, thanks you mam!


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    new episode never aired last night :(

    Not on till next week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    The joys of american tv. They can take a break at anytime. I am guessing that they wanted the semi finals on the same week as the grand finale.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    Didnt air because of thanksgiving apparently, 2 hour finale next week!! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,297 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    ESPN arent showing the finale, lame.


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