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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Can't say that I do see it - probably because it is disguised by that black Chanel number, the haute couture pinny / apron thingy that you are wearing. Fierce fashionable people down your neck of the woods.:D:D
    P.

    Far from Haute Couture I was raised!
    My Granny showed me that a bin liner made a great apron.
    Only Blood I got on me was on my arms.

    Blood is very hard to get off clothing without doing damage a blood is acidic
    That animal was only a little spiker, so the amount of fat showed he enjoyed eating barley


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭ranger4


    That is an almost impossible question to answer without writing a book.:D My experience on deer is 'book ‘arnin’ primarily, as I shoot feathered game; I’m lucky to get a present of fresh venison every so often so I’ve researched it and do intend to take up stalking.

    For feathered game my old man always used the traditional country rule of 120 – using ‘old’ temperature, add the day’s temperature until it reached 120 – that usually meant hanging birds for 3-4 days.

    For ‘fur’ the position is much more complicated. In hanging deer there are many variables that influence the process – the age of the animal, the fat content of the animal, hormonal activity present when shot, where shot, climate (temperature and humidity) during the hanging period, how quickly the carcass drops in temperature after shooting, how even the temperature is maintained, whether it is hung hide on or off, etc. Even how the deer is killed will influence the end result. A deer shot and killed instantly always will taste better than one that does not drop on the spot, as a ‘runner’ will produce adrenalin which will taint the meat. The list is almost endless.

    Speaking in generalities, older game has more connective tissue which takes longer to break down, i.e. mature into something edible. Hanging by the hind legs causes the meat to stretch which helps the tenderizing process, in addition to getting rid of any residual blood in the haunches. Hanging in quarters will reduce the stretching effect. If you hang with hide on, it will do a number of things, the effect of which will be magnified or reduced as a result of ambient temperature. Firstly, regardless of temperature, hanging hide on will reduce the loss of moisture from the carcass by as much as 20%. Hide on also will provide protection from flies and will protect (insulate) the meat from condensation that can form on the surface due to rapid temperature changes if you are not using a cooler cabinet. Airflow around a carcass also is very important and obviously influences dehydration.
    From what I’ve read/researched and what I’ve done myself I’m not that far from what Tack suggests – young sika in top condition 2-4 days in cool shed, or 5– 6 days in cooler. An older fallow would be best 5-6 days in a cool shed or 8-12 days in a cabinet. My issue with non-cabinet aging is that the carcass is much more accessible to fly-blow and also to the possibility of bacterial growth due to condensation forming as a result of rapid temperature changes.
    The important thing with frozen meat is to thaw it slowly in the fridge. Nor should it be roasted at too high a temperature, longer & slower is much better.

    For pigeon, I usually hang them for 2 days, then breast them and fry or more frequently freeze for use in a game pie/casserole. The only reason to chill meat before frying is if you are going to egg & breadcrumb it, as the chilling helps it to stick to the meat.
    Hope this helps.
    Rs,
    P.

    Outstanding post, many thanks for info and your views.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭ssl


    i recon this would work for vension. the last deer i took i had to bag up and freeze that night. ive a boned haunch thawed and im gonna age it for two days in the fridge just to see how it goes. looking forward to tender results.:)

    "ABSTRACT
    Due to religious regulations, the beef imported into Israel is frozen soon after boning. In a search for a method for optimal aging of the beef after thawing and koshering, 8 different aging experiments were conducted, from 0-12 days. Cooking loss and myofibril fragmentation index were found to be more affected by the freezing preceding aging. Nonprotein nitrogen components were found to increase during optimum aging and then decrease. Sensory evaluation of tenderness, performed by multiple-paired comparisons, indicated a significant improvement in meat tenderness after 1 day of aging and further gradual improvement up to 7 days." http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2621.1984.tb10421.x/abstract


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,105 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    Several different things going on here – and they are not comparable. Most of the meat factories here do both halal and kosher kills. It would be interesting to hear from those guys or any food scientist on Boards – I’m just an amateur.

    My read of your haunch –
    Shot, butchered and frozen – it will miss the stretching effect of being hung, it will miss the slow-aging (drying) process; as a result will have a higher water content. High water content = more ice crystals in the meat after freezing, therefore on thawing, cell wall damage will be higher, leading to more fluid loss (slow defrost in fridge will help minimise this). Aging in fridge will happen, but at a slower rate. Two days minimum in the fridge IMO, preferably uncovered and raised on a stainless rack to allow air circulate. I guess that it will have higher fluid loss than you would see normally which would also have an impact on flavour.
    When finished cooking, DO allow it to ‘rest’ for 20 minutes or so - cover it with a bit of tinfoil over which you can place a cloth, that will keep it sufficiently warm and allow the fibres to relax.

    While beef is near to venison, venison has a much lower level of fat and this will alter the aging process. The Abstract you quote is hard to interpret –for starters, kosher meat has to be soaked in water after butchering to get rid of the blood, being frozen is not part of kosher rules. (No fridges around in biblical days:D) That the myofibril fragmentation (i.e. controlled decay) after freezing will be affected is a no-brainer as the meat cells will be damaged by the thawing process, thus aiding denaturing. It’s not clear from the Abstract if the non-protein nitrogen occurs naturally (from degeneration of amino acids) or if it was used in the meat processing, as nitrogen gas is frequently used in food packaging – vacuum packaging is not always suitable, so some products have the air replaced by nitrogen gas, which, depending on the food, will have different effects on it.
    Looking forward to hearing the results of your tasting test!
    Rs
    P.


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