Water fluoridation in Ireland

PanchoVilla · 08-11-2010 10:44PM #1

I'd like to know what the EU's position on water fluoridation is and what steps are being taken to ban the practice in Ireland.

Numerous studies have confirmed that fluoridation has little or no positive impact on dental health, in fact many studies have show fluoride to have a detrimental effect on overall health. The Irish government has refused to end this practice despite several campaigns in Ireland and other countries highlighting the toxicity of this substance.

Water fluoridation has been banned in almost every single European country since the 1970s and 80s. According to a revealing article in the Irish Independent from 2000, Ireland is the only democracy in the world which demands water fluoridation by law. Why is this? Why are we the only country in Europe to not recognize the potential health risks involved with water fluoridation? Why is the Irish government allowed to ignore the wishes of it's citizens to ban the practice of water fluoridation?

I would like to see the EU take an active role in demanding that the Irish government ban the mandatory practice of water fluoridation.

GarlicBread · 08-11-2010 11:17PM

RTE news at six earlier today, irish dentists managed to have their own propaganda slot on it. They were complaining about all the people they are trying to fleece going to other countries for cheaper treatment. They then spun a few lies about how bad the treatment is abroad.

Keep that in mind.

The fluoridation of irish water is backed up by the dentists who say its great for teeth even though the truth is that it has zero benifits and causes dental fluorosis. We have an epidemic of DF in this country.

Basically the dentists are a highly influencial pressure group and the government uses them to legitimize their fluoride program and in turn they have the ear of the powers that be.

Fluoride is a toxic waste which is difficult to get rid of. In the past it would be sold to governments who would then dump it into the water supply to get rid of it and since it caused hardly no effects on people it was considered a sound practice. All other european countries have come to terms with this scam and have outlawed it.

Here in ireland we have such disgraceful public debate and democratic protocols that the practice is still going on.

My opinion is that fluoride also has effects on the brain and is used to better control populations. I also believe that the current state of irish democracy is directly related to the mass fluoridation.

The best way to deal with this issue will be when they try and make us pay for water. That will be our chance to force their hand and to demand this appauling practice is ended.

PanchoVilla · 08-11-2010 11:57PM

As I noticed PaulGogartyTD has replied to another thread in this section, maybe he'd like to shed some light on the Green Party's failure to demand this legislation of mandatory water fluoridation be overturned. Perhaps he could tell us if the Irish government has any plans to ban water fluoridation after reading this press release from VOICE regarding a recent public hearing in Brussels to discuss the matter. I wonder if the Greens even knew of this hearing.

http://voiceireland.org/general-news/eu-commission-hearing-exposes-fatal-flaws-in-water-fluoridation/

Scofflaw · 09-11-2010 12:11AM

GarlicBread wrote:

My opinion is that fluoride also has effects on the brain and is used to better control populations. I also believe that the current state of irish democracy is directly related to the mass fluoridation.

If this is going to turn into a CT thread, it can be moved to CT.

moderately,
Scofflaw

PanchoVilla · 09-11-2010 12:26AM

Scofflaw wrote: »

If this is going to turn into a CT thread, it can be moved to CT.

moderately,
Scofflaw

While the comment on "population control" may not be appropriate, a discussion on fluoridation should also include the neurotoxicity or neurological effects of fluoride.

The following is taken from a website called "The Fluoride Debate" and is relevant to fluoride's use in medications such as Prozac and Rohypnol.

Yes, fluoride can affect the brain. Fluoride is the primary agent in many pharmaceuticals specifically intended to affect brain activity: Prozac (fluoxetene) to inhibit the reuptake of Seratonin, the brain chemical necessary for synapse; Phen-Fen (fenfluramine) the diet drug taken off the market because of heart valve damage (only the fluoride-containing half of Phen-Fen was outlawed); Rohypnol (commonly called "roofies"), recently in the news as the date rape drug; fluoride is the only toxic element in Sarin, the nerve gas (rated 1,500 times more toxic than cyanide) used in the Japanese subway by terrorists and referenced in the Gulf War illnesses; and virtually every general anesthetic contains fluoride.

http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question28.html

amacachi · 09-11-2010 12:33AM

That quote makes no sense in chemistry terms.

Lu Tze · 09-11-2010 12:59AM

Anybody got hard figures on how many treatment plants are still adding fluoride to the water? I have been to quite a few (mostly smaller ones less than 20,000 PE) and only 1 if i recall correctly, had it.

Scofflaw · 09-11-2010 01:04AM

Enough already. The fluoride issue is invariably a conspiracy theory one, because if the stuff was a hundredth as dangerous as some people make out, the only possible explanation for foisting it on the populace is inevitably a conspiracy. Without such a conspiracy, it's a health issue, not a political one, and with the conspiracy, it's a conspiracy theory thread, not a political one.

So no, you don't get to discuss fluoride in the Politics forum. And please, spare me the accusation that I'm some kind of fluoride profiteer or dupe.

moderately,
Scofflaw

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