C4E Confirms New AP2.5 Checks on New Dashboard with New Games

obviously going to happen
Now everyone has to put up with the "I got banned I thought Lt was safe" people whining for the next month or so.
interesting that samsungs and older hitachis pass these new checks though

Straight from xboxscene

Updates from C4E on New Dash: Update Process Seems Safe, AP2.5 Titles Not, LT+ WIP
>> Updates from C4E on the fall2010 dashboard update from #FW@EFnet:

[c4eva] ap2.5 already defeated, backup fable 3 running fine on beta dash! more data required for analysis!
[**] C4 are you planning on releasing the new LT+ for the old consoles? ie. not slim?
[c4eva] **:yes

[***] c4eva, is it confirmed that current FW and older games will be safe in the new dash?
[c4eva] ***:unknown at present!

[c4eva] dash out?
[c4eva] version please?
[c4eva] so it begins,dash version please?
[****] c4 2.0.12611.0
[c4eva] very good, thx, same version im already working with!

[*****] C4 are you still working on hitas? Will they eventually be released ?
[c4eva] *****:was working on it , not for a while now!
[*******] c4eva so there will be a LT+ for lite-on and benq drives
[c4eva] yes

[c4eva] ok, have logged the update process, analysing!
[c4eva] logged entire update process, no vendor packets, only standard inquiry and key exchange, so update process safe!
[c4eva] fable 3 not safe! ap2.5 active for that title with new dash!

[c4eva] as soon as we have enough data on ap25 then there will be something
[c4eva] testing more game titles soon for ap25!

Newer games with new AP2.5 checks cannot be played (e.g. Fable 3). The game will refuse to play, giving a disc unreadable error. I don't know if this happens before or during the game, I don't own Fable 3 but either way it won't work - online or offline.

Failing an AP2.5 check is pretty much the smoking gun when it comes to flagging your console for a ban by the way. So if you do attempt to play games which the latest firmware can't handle then expect to get nailed if you peek above the parapit (go onto live, even for a few moments).

Yup, (s)Hitachi drives and Samsung drives can't do the new AP25 checks, so those drives skip them (which is safe if your drive is actually a Samsung/Hitachi). If you've spoofed to Samsung from a Benq or a LiteOn then you'll be caught.

Also, the new checks are only present in the new dashboard. If you're offline and haven't updated to the Kinect dashboard then you'll be grand.

RealistSpy - Updates were already posted on the first page

@justryan: It most likely will, but Black Ops isn't out until November 9th.

i have the lt drive flashed

so i just went on to xbox live today and it said to update but i didnt...i never play games online but have a xbox live account i only download demos..is it safe to update or not or wait for a new firmware