doom and gloom

whelan1 · 27-10-2010 02:29PM #1

was at a farm meeting last night ,i left it very depressed , there is an awful level of gloom and doom around , people are saying this year is actually worse than last year , even though we had good weather and better prices for milk and grain ,there are still bills from last year to be paid .Any reserves people had where used last year and non one knows what is coming down the line. What do ye think?

Username John · 27-10-2010 02:39PM

whelan1 wrote: »

was at a farm meeting last night ,i left it very depressed , there is an awful level of gloom and doom around , people are saying this year is actually worse than last year , even though we had good weather and better prices for milk and grain ,there are still bills from last year to be paid .Any reserves people had where used last year and non one knows what is coming down the line. What do ye think?

Being honest, tis hard to be any way positive with ALL the media telling us all the time that the budget will be terrible, cuts everywhere, etc. and even when this is done, I think we'll be in for more scare mongering around the banks, and on it goes...

I think people are afraid, not just in farming, but everywhere. I mean, even the poeple that have a bit of money are afraid to spend it. I think I read somewhere recenetly that we are actually saving a lot (as a nation) Its fear, or the unknown of whats coming down the line is making us afraid to spend it...

jfh · 27-10-2010 02:45PM

some people are not happy unless they're complaining, afraid that if they acknowledge the positive, it'll dissappear. completely mindset.
things were bad, but at least they're on an upward spiral.
they should check out the retail sector:(

pakalasa · 27-10-2010 06:24PM

You can only blame the media for all this negativity.

People need to get a grip. How bad are things compared to whats gone before. Our grandfathers went through a bloody civil war, our great grandfathers survived a potatoe famine. Watched a great documentary on Brendan Hughes, one of the original hunger strikers, last night. Nows there's hardship!

We have peace and relative prosperity, something people before us never had. To quote Koy Keane - 'Get over it' and move on.:)

KoNiT · 27-10-2010 06:50PM

You can only blame the media for all this negativity.

People need to get a grip. How bad are things compared to whats gone before. Our grandfathers went through a bloody civil war, our great grandfathers survived a potatoe famine. Watched a great documentary on Brendan Hughes, one of the original hunger strikers, last night. Nows there's hardship!

We have peace and relative prosperity, something people before us never had. To quote Koy Keane - 'Get over it' and move on[/QUOTE

applause... flippin dead right .. media is only in it for the money.. sensationalistic news.. 'x' factor heads the lot of them... doesn't matter what it is as long as it sells a few sheets of paper / bytes

whelan1 · 27-10-2010 07:10PM

i am normally an optimistic person have had alot of crap times- excuse the pun- behind me .... and i am taking each day as it comes , these lads took the biscuit last night:mad:

Pacoa · 27-10-2010 07:12PM

To quote Koy Keane - 'Get over it' and move on

Would that be Roy's younger brother? (or his pet carp?) :P

tommylimerick · 27-10-2010 07:23PM

be greedy when others are fearful
be fearful when others are being greedy

snowman707 · 27-10-2010 08:14PM

I attended my last "farmer's" meeting about 7 years ago. there was quite an interesting agenda

any how the meeting has hijacked by 2 or 3 doom and gloom patriots, every single speaker was heckled ,

farmers were going under, children were starving, the minster was no good, factories, co -ops, banks ifa all got the hatchet treatment

when leaving the car park I spotted the biggest mouth on the night in a spanking new Land cruiser and me leaving in a 15 year old jap import,

I said this last year and attracted a big back lash however here goes " get the f*** over it and move on"

whelan1 · 27-10-2010 08:30PM

too true the guy with the biggest mouth is probably the most well off of us all!

5live · 28-10-2010 09:07AM

I think we as farmers have a huge advantage over the rest of the country. When the tiger was roaring, we were barely holding our own. We cut back well before the rest because we had no choice. We are used to incomes going down more than up and realise the good times are not permanent just a phase. And so are the bad times! The news outlets survive on sales not truth so they hype everything from Bertie to Mary Byrne in the hope of a few more sales. But saying that, the next few years will be difficult with variable prices and less money to spend(there goes my sky sports subscription:mad:) but it WILL turn and may we all be around to see it:)

reilig · 28-10-2010 12:51PM

5live wrote: »

I think we as farmers have a huge advantage over the rest of the country. When the tiger was roaring, we were barely holding our own. We cut back well before the rest because we had no choice. We are used to incomes going down more than up and realise the good times are not permanent just a phase. And so are the bad times! The news outlets survive on sales not truth so they hype everything from Bertie to Mary Byrne in the hope of a few more sales. But saying that, the next few years will be difficult with variable prices and less money to spend(there goes my sky sports subscription:mad:) but it WILL turn and may we all be around to see it:)

That's a good post.

If we think about it, this time 4 years ago, no construction labourer would get out of bed for less than €800 a week, and a skilled construction could easily have €1500 for a week's work. Things have gone back to reality now. as you say, we were cut back when the boom was in full swing. I know that taxes are a little higher and we face a little bit of uncertainty and we went through a bad year last year with weather and with prices for the milk producers among us. But we've had tough times in farming before and we've got through.

If we were having a bad year but the boom was still going then there wouldn't be a word about it in the media. But there's just a hype about doom and gloom that's bringing everyone down. We may not have made a lot of money like those in construction related sectors in the last 10 years, but as farmers, we have land, crops and animals. We can breed and grow. Bricks and mortar can't. That's how we'll all get through this.

blue5000 · 29-10-2010 12:23PM

I simply don't go to ifa meetings anymore, too much moaning and on too late at night. Much better to be in a POSITIVE discussion group.

babybrian · 29-10-2010 01:09PM

I totally agree with Reilig.
onwards and upwards

Even tho it is pissing rain here all day I just brought the cows in and they will stay in for the night but I dont care(there's not a bloody thing I can do about the weather). But I dont care, for a few years I worked as a architectural technician(lots of money) but as I said to my mam yesterday if I was offered the same job again I would turn it down because I'm much happier farming, its better to be happy with less money than making more money in a job I dont like.. And who wouldnt like farming, always something different everyday, love it

pakalasa · 29-10-2010 06:17PM

There is an old neighbour of mine, who has to be the most positive person I know. He's always in good spirits. The kind of guy that would always cheer you up after talking to him.
I met him during the summer when he was drawing in bales of silage with his Ferguson 35. He was drawing them along a bad road with a steep hill along the way. I was asking him how he managed to bring them up the hill, as he had no loader only a few weights tied to the front axle.
" Oh, I know by the way the front axle is bouncing going along the road. If it's bouncing too much, I back it up".
The guy is well into his 80's.:D

PMU · 29-10-2010 07:56PM

"avoid negative people like the plague"
micheal murphy says this at every Positive Farmers Conference.
he has a point!

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