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Rooney not signing a new contract?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,075 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    500k a week will get him plenty of security anyway even after hookers, ciggies and presents for the missus. :)

    Thats what the modern game is all about after all.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Archimedes wrote: »
    How is it laughable?

    Are we going to turn down a £30 million talent because we feel he's turned his back on his old club? My bollox we are. United fans realised the way he treated Everton, and while not admirable, we were just happy to have Rooney, and Everton fans were justified in their hatred of him.

    The shoe isn't on the other foot at all, because we never said Everton shouldn't hate him, the same way it's laughable that people are saying United fans shouldn't now.

    Wayne Rooney would avoid all labels of disloyalty if he wasn't so premature in his statements.

    That's two clubs and a wife he's now committed the rest of his life to, and backed away from. He's a coward and a fraud and deserves all the criticism he gets.


    You see why people find this whole thing funny. If I posted that a week ago I would have been cornered from all angles by Utd. fans. How fickle fans are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Nothing got to do with being loyal to a club, it's about being loyal to your word.

    "Once a blue, always a blue"
    "I've always said that I'd like to end my career at Manchester United"
    "I offer you my solemn vow to be your faithful partner in sickness and in health"
    TBF,
    he'll be a blue again soon enough.
    He is ending his career at Man Utd.
    We don't know what vows he took.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭thegen


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Nothing got to do with being loyal to a club, it's about being loyal to your word.

    "Once a blue, always a blue"
    "I've always said that I'd like to end my career at Manchester United"
    "I offer you my solemn vow to be your faithful partner in sickness and in health"
    Now were judging footballers ion their word. Lol just lol!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭Ordinary man


    The sooner he's forgotten about, the better. Maybe in time he'll do a u-turn and we'll all fall back in love with him - same as liverpool did with gerrard everytime he wanted to go to chelsea


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭BERBA


    wayne rooooney , wayne rooooney , he kissed the crest , then put in a transfer request , wayne rooooney


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    The Muppet wrote: »
    You got to be a pedant to play the game.

    It is not pedantic. You said something that was wrong. I disagreed with that. You then changed what you were saying without acknowledging it.

    Your cries of pedantism are laughable. You are clearly just incapable of carrying out a discussion sensibly.

    Edit: Lots of people on this forum have to endure this when discussing things with you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Pro. F wrote: »
    It is not pedantic. You said something that was wrong. I disagreed with that. You then changed what you were saying without acknowledging it.

    Your cries of pedantism are laughable. You are clearly just incapable of carrying out a discussion properly.
    Pedantry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Nothing got to do with being loyal to a club, it's about being loyal to your word.

    "Once a blue, always a blue"
    "I've always said that I'd like to end my career at Manchester United"
    "I offer you my solemn vow to be your faithful partner in sickness and in health"

    I've always said that i'd like to end my career at Manchester United is not a vow or a promise, is it?

    Once a blue always a blue? Maybe he's still an Everton supporter? He was hardly going to play for Everton for all of his career was he? And if he did, it would display a distinct lack of ambition imvhaho.

    His marriage vows are not relevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭thegen


    This thread makes me happy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    thegen wrote: »
    Now were judging footballers ion their word. Lol just lol!!!!!!

    How is it laughable?

    Nobody is questioning his talent, all that is being question is his ability to make a commitment to a club.

    How is that laughable when a transfer situation is being discussed?

    You really aren't capable of a serious discussion are you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    BERBA wrote: »
    wayne rooooney , wayne rooooney , he kissed the crest , then put in a transfer request , wayne rooooney

    Berbaaaatov, Berbaaaatov took a look at City Spurs and he said fúck off.

    I can type childish songs as well, aren't I great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    I know loyalty may or may not be an issue but if he does not put in a transfer request he will get his loyalty bonus which will take a chunk off the transfer value.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭thegen


    Arch , I am being serious . UTD supporters taking the high moral ground is comical, jaysus bring back the PD's. He wants to leave for the same reasons he left Everton, het over it. His personal life should not come into it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭BERBA


    baz2009 wrote: »
    Berbaaaatov, Berbaaaatov took a look at City Spurs and he said fúck off.

    I can type childish songs as well, aren't I great.

    agh but my friend berbatov is the only worldclass player that will be left while all the rest are leaving.........................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Pro. F wrote: »
    It is not pedantic. You said something that was wrong. I disagreed with that. You then changed what you were saying without acknowledging it.

    Your cries of pedantism are laughable. You are clearly just incapable of carrying out a discussion sensibly.

    Edit: Lots of people on this forum have to endure this when discussing things with you.

    You cant quite grasp the concept of the bottom line can you?

    Nobodys forcing you to endure anything, you have choices.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    BERBA wrote: »
    agh but my friend berbatov is the only worldclass player that will be left while all the rest are leaving.........................

    The rest?
    Vidic, Rio and Evra all seem happy enough..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    Pedantry.

    Hate to be a pedant but..

    Ped´ant`ism
    n. 1. The office, disposition, or act of a pedant; pedantry.

    Seems perfectly valid to me. Anyway, back on track.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    baz2009 wrote: »
    The rest?
    Vidic, Rio and Evra all seem happy enough..

    How many years do you think Ferdinand has left? Actually, how many games do you think he'll play this year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭BERBA


    baz2009 wrote: »
    The rest?
    Vidic, Rio and Evra all seem happy enough..

    i was on about the other end of the pitch.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,075 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Hate to be a pedant but..

    Ped´ant`ism
    n. 1. The office, disposition, or act of a pedant; pedantry.

    Seems perfectly valid to me. Anyway, back on track.


    Wow, do you think that its possible that the real reason Rooney wants out is the poor grammar at United?

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    baz2009 wrote: »
    The rest?
    Vidic, Rio and Evra all seem happy enough..

    True but the danger is if Rooney goes surely those type of players will be asking themselves the same question (not publicly) that Rooney has just asked. When are we going to bring in world-class players?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭Ordinary man


    BERBA wrote: »
    i was on about the other end of the pitch.....

    Don't worry, we have a good feeder club in london that'll produce a few more for us;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Don't worry, we have a good feeder club in london that'll produce a few more for us;)

    If the likes of Carrick you like being fed...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    nullzero wrote: »
    Wow, do you think that its possible that the real reason Rooney wants out is the poor grammar at United?

    Doubt it, the lad doesn't often finish a sentence without sticking an errrrm in somewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Hate to be a pedant but..

    Ped´ant`ism
    n. 1. The office, disposition, or act of a pedant; pedantry.

    Seems perfectly valid to me. Anyway, back on track.
    I think in the context of his sentence, that I'm correct.
    Anyway, back on track.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭BERBA


    Don't worry, we have a good feeder club in london that'll produce a few more for us;)

    keep giving us 19m and we'll keep feeding ye Carricks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Warper wrote: »
    True but the danger is if Rooney goes surely those type of players will be asking themselves the same question (not publicly) that Rooney has just asked. When are we going to bring in world-class players?

    Vidic has proved that he wants to stay during the summer.
    You'd swear Evra grew up up on the door-step of Old Trafford the way he goes on about the club in interviews.
    Ferdinand- I can't ever see him leave, tbh.
    BERBA wrote: »
    i was on about the other end of the pitch.....

    Changing you're argument?
    You said world class, I named 3. United have scored 18 goals this season, joint second in the league. Not bad, tbf.
    Ush1 wrote: »
    How many years do you think Ferdinand has left? Actually, how many games do you think he'll play this year?

    TBH, I think he'll play most PL games and important CL games, won't play any unneccesary games, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭The Sparrow


    Just got home from a couple of days away so I haven't been able to read all of this thread so appologies if this is repeating something already discussed.

    My take on this as a Manchester United fan for life is that Rooney is basically bottling it. From his statement tonight when he complains about the investment in the team, he is basically saying he is not good enough to carry Man Utd on his back and he would prefer to go to a club where he will be paid more money and there will be more "galacticos" to carry the team.

    Obviously the Glazer debt has played a big part in the money from the Ronaldo sale not being spent. But I also believe that Ferguson accepted that because he had Rooney to step into the breach. Ronaldo was brilliant for Utd and he was definitely the main man which meant that Rooney was often played out of position.

    So when Ronaldo left, Rooney became the main striker and the focal point of the team and he excelled until March. But all of a sudden after a dip in form, he wants to leave when the club is struggling. So after becoming the focal point of the team he suddenly realises that he is not good enough to carry the weight of expectation and he wants to run off to Madrid or whoever so that he can go back to his comfort zone behind Ronaldo or whoever.

    Surely if Rooney really believed he was one of the true elite players, he would have confidence in his own ability to take the club forward. Obviously he either doesn't have that confidence, or he just wants a big payday.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Nothing got to do with being loyal to a club, it's about being loyal to your word.

    "Once a blue, always a blue"
    "I've always said that I'd like to end my career at Manchester United"
    "I offer you my solemn vow to be your faithful partner in sickness and in health"


    I'm sure he would, but I'm sure he also wants to win as many trophies as possible more.


    What did United fans expect him to do when Gill gave him no assurances over future spending? Sign a contract anyway and then demand a transfer in a years time? It seems like it's a no win situation with the fans, at least he's being honest now instead of signing a new contract for extra ££££ for a few months.


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