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Rooney not signing a new contract?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Not today niallo, any chance you could keep your trolling to yourself for one day?

    Just the one?

    Too much to ask?

    I'm only taking the piss, ye did it to us for long enough, in all seriousness he looked like a broken man, words coming out slowly, the man is 69, this can't be good for his health


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    If a player wants to leave, what exact fault is that of the club, except perhaps pampering an ego?

    united will go on without, sure its a loss, for a while, until the next big thing comes along.


    Didnt seem to be a big ruckus like the ronaldo incident. When a player like Rooney is out of form and has a serious ****ed up personal situation, might be best to send him packing.

    He will live to regret I'm sure if he doesn't go on to achieve alot of honours.

    He may not have won every trophy every season with united, but its rare you can etch yourself into a clubs history for decades to come.

    Being labelled alongside Best,Cantona, Giggs, Schmeichal , Keane and a list of others, that to me is worth all the champions league medals in the world.

    And somthing money wont buy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    United fans were saying the same when Ronaldo left. It's very hard to replace players of such a class, doubly so when you've got a mountain of debt to pay off.

    Will you stop spouting that bitter shíte you always come out with. Manchester United isn't 19th in the table, but if it makes you feel better about your club making up stories about ours, then, go ahead, just don't do it in here.

    Debt is being taken care of, thanks very much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Quoted so you can't edit later on ;)

    Np but it might be €5k in pennies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Why?

    He has said he wants to stay with United, loves United etc. etc., nearly sure I saw him throw a few digs at City, too.

    Plus, Tevez isn't English so it'll always be different, tbh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,896 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Your debt is a serious problem and thats why ye havent bought anyone major in 2 years! No money, no ambition and thats why Rooney wants out!


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I read in the Guardian I think that his missus won't move out of England due to a sister with a terminal disease.

    City or Chelsea it is.



    Or could John Henry dig deep?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭CountingCrows


    Le King wrote: »
    Debt is being taken care of, thanks very much.

    Sure is, by selling your best players


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,785 ✭✭✭killwill


    MaceFace wrote: »
    I can already sense the movement of the faithful from admiration of the greatest player in the league to anger at an over rated bully that Utd are better off without.

    (just like a certain Mr Tevez)

    Well for me, as a player I love him, as a person he is a knob. I hope he changes his mind but if he really wants to go then thanks for the memories Wayne.
    All I am concerned about is who we replace him with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    Sure is, by selling your best players

    Yes, because it was the clubs decision to sell him.

    Is this be an idiot day or something?

    :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭CountingCrows


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    I read in the Guardian I think that his missus won't move out of England due to a sister with a terminal disease.

    Maybe that won't be an issue by the time his contract is up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,452 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Le King wrote: »
    Will you stop spouting that bitter shíte you always come out with. Manchester United isn't 19th in the table, but if it makes you feel better about your club making up stories about ours, then, go ahead, just don't do it in here.

    Debt is being taken care of, thanks very much.

    Boo hoo. Debts taken care of? Where did the Ronaldo money go? How did you manage to make a loss despite record operating profits? Seriously, get your head out of the sand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,896 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Le King wrote: »
    Yes, because it was the clubs decision to sell him.

    Is this be an idiot day or something?

    :rolleyes:


    Was not the clubs decision to sell them it was the players decision to leave!!

    Is this be an idiot day or something?

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭CountingCrows


    Le King wrote: »
    Is this be an idiot day or something?

    :rolleyes:

    Think its stick your head in the sand day for many


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Your debt is a serious problem and thats why ye havent bought anyone major in 2 years! No money, no ambition and thats why Rooney wants out!

    Not United's fault, tbf, the greedy things in charge.



    It's really hard to be angry when you're not allowed abuse anyone.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Maybe that won't be an issue by the time his contract is up


    Bit harsh, she only has MS..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    Boo hoo. Debts taken care of? Where did the Ronaldo money go? How did you manage to make a loss despite record operating profits? Seriously, get your head out of the sand.

    I refuse to discuss financial analysis with you. Your full of it, you'd think you might of learned something about finance living in Frankfurt. Obviously not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,785 ✭✭✭killwill


    TheDoc wrote: »
    If a player wants to leave, what exact fault is that of the club, except perhaps pampering an ego?

    united will go on without, sure its a loss, for a while, until the next big thing comes along.


    Didnt seem to be a big ruckus like the ronaldo incident. When a player like Rooney is out of form and has a serious ****ed up personal situation, might be best to send him packing.

    He will live to regret I'm sure if he doesn't go on to achieve alot of honours.

    He may not have won every trophy every season with united, but its rare you can etch yourself into a clubs history for decades to come.

    Being labelled alongside Best,Cantona, Giggs, Schmeichal , Keane and a list of others, that to me is worth all the champions league medals in the world.

    And somthing money wont buy

    Very well said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,896 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    baz2009 wrote: »
    Not United's fault, tbf, the greedy things in charge.



    It's really hard to be angry when you're not allowed abuse anyone.:mad:


    Wants to leave to win things, UTd not willing to spend, Rooney got annoyed Ronaldo not replaced so said thats it, gave ye two summers and not a single class player signed. I am out of here!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    He would be crazy to pick Man City - not just for cross-city rivalry reasons - but because the club is becoming an ever bigger bubble than United. Plus, he won't have the same level of dressing room influence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,452 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Le King wrote: »
    I refuse to discuss financial analysis with you. Your full of it, you'd think you might of learned something about finance living in Frankfurt. Obviously not.

    You refuse to discuss because you're ignorant to the issues. Please, explain how the debt is "being taken care of". I'm always open to education!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Torres to United in January?

    I wouldnt completely rule it out, we can see how much players have when it comes to choosing a move.

    If Torres feels it a good move he might go.

    Liverpool fans are quick to froget when he joined liverpool he said he would leave to try his luck in Italy before retiring, so that he could be a success in what he sees as the three major leagues in the world.

    I admire Torres for that ambition, he could have made a huge money move to pretty much anywhere. someone who values etching himself into the books is someone worth cheering for.

    I dont think he has proved himself to be as succesful in England as Spain, and at his age, he ight look for another english club before moving ti Italy later on down the line.

    Considering Torres' form and desire to leave, and his proneness to injury I would guess he could be bought after a rooney sale ( assuming a good price is fetched for rooney0 with cash to spare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,267 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    I read in the Guardian I think that his missus won't move out of England due to a sister with a terminal disease.

    City or Chelsea it is.



    Or could John Henry dig deep?

    We dont want him........unless its going cost us at max 20 million :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,594 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Wants to leave to win things, UTd not willing to spend, Rooney got annoyed Ronaldo not replaced so said thats it, gave ye two summers and not a single class player signed. I am out of here!!

    Quite possible.

    If Rooney won't discuss a contract at all, it would indicate that it isn't just about money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Jigga


    Daemos wrote: »
    I don't get commemts like this. After years of loyal service to the club he's immediately turned on by 'fans' when he says he wants to leave. Childish bullsh1t.
    When was Rooney ever loyal? Look at the way he fucked over his childhood club Everton. The way he left them was a disgrace which United and Ferguson helped happen that way who deserve this shitstorm that they are in now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭CountingCrows


    Lukker- wrote: »
    Bit harsh, she only has MS..

    Meant be mightn't be married


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    He would be crazy to pick Man City - not just for cross-city rivalry reasons - but because the club is becoming an ever bigger bubble than United. Plus, he won't have the same level of dressing room influence.

    He's running out of clubs isn't he. Can't see him going to Liverpool - if he wants to stay in the North West it has to be Tranmere. He'd be delighted to go back to Merseyside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    lol, now he's leaving all the United fans come out and go on about how over-rated he is. :pac:

    Indeed. However, let's not ignore the fact that's he's been off form this season. Then again, he's carrying injuries and I don't think many doubt that he'll regain his form at some point, and return to his world class status, similar to Torres situation imo.

    Where does he go next? That's the real question. I'd prefer him to go to City personally than Chelsea. Chelsea have a much better team and squad, and imo are the only ones with a squad that is better than United's. Better let the talent spread around, especially at City where I'd take a great joy in Tevez playing second fiddle to him again. That's just me being vindictive.

    I'd rather enjoy, from a footballing perspective, seeing him play with Ronaldo again. The added benefit to that is that he leaves the country. United haven't sold a player to a competing club in the same league in a very long time, probably Veron, and in the past 10 years I can only think of us selling a player who we wanted to keep once, and that was Ronaldo. I can see Fergie digging his heels in and insisting that he goes abroad.

    However, the Glazers will want to see maximum money gotten, and I'd say that City will offer 10 million above everything that Madrid off. Can see him going there to be honest.

    Then again, it really isn't clear why he is moving. Is it for money, in which case City are a good bet? Or is it to win things, which while Utd are on the down-turn no doubt, I don't think there's many people who would argue that City are the place to go right now if you want to win the CL and PL. As such, you'd be looking at Chelsea and Madrid as the realistic options, maybe Inter but I can't see it.

    The thing is, what puts him in a strong position is that he's only 18 months out and his value is dropping rapidly after January. As such, Chelsea and Madrid can probably get him for the price they want, I'd guess between 30-40 million, while City can offer 50-60 or whatever they feel like, and it can go into the PIK interest for one more year.

    All in all, depending on why he is leaving, I will feel anger or sadness. If he's leaving because he genuinely doesn't think United can let him win everything he wants to win, I do respect that. I feel sad that United has gotten to that point, but I respect it.

    If it's something else, possibly money, possibly his relationship with Ferguson, whatever. Either way, if that's the reason, **** him. United have existed long before him and will exist long after him. He gave us some great performances and great seasons, and thanks for the memories, but if you really choose money over being at United and winning things, then I really couldn't care less where you play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    TheDoc wrote: »
    I wouldnt completely rule it out, we can see how much players have when it comes to choosing a move.

    If Torres feels it a good move he might go.

    Liverpool fans are quick to froget when he joined liverpool he said he would leave to try his luck in Italy before retiring, so that he could be a success in what he sees as the three major leagues in the world.

    I admire Torres for that ambition, he could have made a huge money move to pretty much anywhere. someone who values etching himself into the books is someone worth cheering for.

    I dont think he has proved himself to be as succesful in England as Spain, and at his age, he ight look for another english club before moving ti Italy later on down the line.

    Considering Torres' form and desire to leave, and his proneness to injury I would guess he could be bought after a rooney sale ( assuming a good price is fetched for rooney0 with cash to spare.


    Why would Torres leave one sinking ship to join another?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    Was not the clubs decision to sell them it was the players decision to leave!!

    Is this be an idiot day or something?

    :rolleyes:

    English?
    Think its stick your head in the sand day for many

    lol what? You said it as if United wanted to sell Rooney to pay off our debt. What a stupid statement to make.


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