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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    There he goes again, picking on the guys who were unlucky enough to be caught. Or rather the one's given villain status.


    He doesn't mind some other dopers though, the nice dopers:
    "My memory of [today's] stage is being congratulated by most of my peers: Vinokourov, Basso, Garzelli. Them showing you respect like that is nice."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭daragh_


    The Science Gallery have a Bamboo framed bike in their current exhibition = Green Machines. Would love to take it for a spin.

    http://www.sciencegallery.com/gm_bamboosero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    There he goes again, picking on the guys who were unlucky enough to be caught. Or rather the one's given villain status

    Are you suggesting that pro cyclists should be twittering about the people they suspect to be doping but haven't been caught yet? Wouldn't that be some sort of defamation?

    </SSB>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Lumen wrote: »
    Are you suggesting that pro cyclists should be twittering about the people they suspect to be doping but haven't been caught yet? Wouldn't that be some sort of defamation?

    </SSB>
    Not quite. But he shouldn't just pick on the Chicken and the Cobra. It would be a bit braver if he had a go at Vinokourov.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Not quite. But he shouldn't just pick on the Chicken and the Cobra. It would be a bit braver if he had a go at Vinokourov.

    OK.
    "People ask me all the time, 'How do you race with these guys? Why do you not spit at them?' but you can't do that," Wiggins said to Cyclingnews.

    "It's only bike racing, and it's actually the system that fails us as athletes. It's not really their fault (that they come back), it's the system's fault that allows them to do it. As long as they're allowed to race, what are we supposed to do? You have to race with them and treat them like anyone else, as rivals on the road. They're human beings, they're allowed to race. You can't blame them for wanting to come back, wanting to race and make money."

    "Until they test positive, you have to accept the results they achieve. Otherwise it just makes everything a mess. Steve Cummings was 25th at Liège - Bastogne - Liège but all people were taking about was Vino and all the past winners of that race that have had troubles. But what about the riders who were up there? All that talk demoralizes them."

    "If someone beats me in the Tour but I finish up there, I don't want it rubbed in that they might be doped. As far as I'm concerned, they're clean and getting on with their job. That's the way you have to deal with it."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Grand, so while they're on suspension they're pieces of sh!t, when they're back (and possibly in his vacinity) they're peers and he welcomes their congratulations.

    A twitterring tough guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Grand, so while they're on suspension they're pieces of sh!t, when they're back (and possibly in his vacinity) they're peers and he welcomes their congratulations.

    A twitterring tough guy.

    Dude, like, I'm not arguing with you, I'm just pasting stuff on to the Internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Lumen wrote: »
    Dude, like, I'm not arguing with you, I'm just pasting stuff on to the Internet.
    I'm going back to perusing pie plates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    I want to fight Bradley Wiggins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    I want to fight Bradley Wiggins.

    With a pie plate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    If we are to be armed, then that shall be my weapon of choice.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,671 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl




  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,465 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    There he goes again, picking on the guys who were unlucky enough to be caught. Or rather the one's given villain status.


    He doesn't mind some other dopers though, the nice dopers:
    "My memory of [today's] stage is being congratulated by most of my peers: Vinokourov, Basso, Garzelli. Them showing you respect like that is nice."
    Lumen wrote: »
    Indeed.

    Told the kids that having a dog means you have to pick the Ricco's up and if you don't we will have to eat the dogs, seems to have worked
    4:40 PM Oct 12th via Twitter for BlackBerry®

    Good to hear a sane voice in all this mess, thanks Michael Rasmussen I'll sleep better tonight
    2:26 PM Oct 12th via Twitter for BlackBerry®


    In the past few months I have read a lot of biographies of famous cyclists. I am coming to the view that doping is simply not worth any of my emotional effort. I dont care. Cycling is a beautiful sport and oping has always been a strong part of the historical fabric of the pro sport. Its in the blood so to speak.
    I think that the moral oprobium that has arisen regarding doping has always existed in the background, but is only since Festina that it has become the norm.
    I just want to see exciting races with lots of crazy breaks.

    I am now of the view that if the likes of Merck, Anquetil, Coppi raced in the 1990's and 2000s' that as true greats they would have done whatever it took at that time to win races. As science moves on doping simply evolves. I am going to accept that it will always be there and not waste any more time anguisinhing as to is so and so clean. Guys are only following what has always been the norm in the sport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,937 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    For those of you following the Daily Mail's hilarious long-term project to divide all the inanimate objects in the world into ones that either cause or prevent cancer, this is invaluable:

    The Daily Mail Oncological Ontology Project
    http://thedailymailoncologicalontologyproject.wordpress.com/

    Ben Goldacre mentioned it in his Bad Science column in the Guardian today. Doesn't look as if it's been updated since early 2008, but some good stuff there anyway.

    EDIT: Dammit. It's a very short blog. Wonder why Ben Goldacre bothered to mention it. He also mentions this though, which is more exhaustive:
    http://kill-or-cure.heroku.com/

    FURTHER EDIT:
    http://kill-or-cure.heroku.com/a-z/c
    "Cycling Prevents Cancer"
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-348085/Exercise-limit-prostate-cancer.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    Ahem: C'est la vie pour les nouvelles technologies et l'étiquette avec ca. "That's life for new technologies and the tag with that", what are you on about man?

    Capitaine 'avoc: Nazi de la grammaire :D

    I am referring to the etiquette of internet forums

    to elaborate - it's clearly still finding it's feet !!

    Appears to me there are established protocols formed from when forums began on the web and then there are more general procedures that have always been in "mainstream" media - TV/newspapers etc. Then with online forums, you have relative newcomers like myself who would not be totally au fait with acceptable behaviour as it is a relatively new form of communication (eg I am still not clear on what trolling is - it never existed in such context as a term before web forums I gather. What's trolling to one person may be a totally valid point to another. And we have moderators to determine such).

    The anonimity factor is also interesting in this context - don't you think?

    Sorry if mods again think this is "trolling" for want of a better word but we are in tedious bickering and I am attempting to gain understanding of what exactly boards is all about! I have no intention to reduce my further participation on boards to levels where I am wasting mods time or going to their boundaries of discomfort. I am just now making a commentary on matters as I now see them.

    The boards cycling forum is clearly the liveliest cycling forum in Ireland afaik. Other sports like GAA have their own "niche" sites eg Fearr Dearg etc afaik.

    Sorry if I wasted anyone's time in reading this, or have caused any undue consideration by mods. All said in good spirit and with the intention of being enlightened / enlightening.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,465 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I am referring to the etiquette of internet forums

    to elaborate - it's clearly still finding it's feet !!

    .....

    Bob

    No problem at all with your post, although it's not tedious bickering, and not specific to the cycling forum. Hence I'm moving it to the Broomwagon.

    It may be that there are other areas on boards where you can get a better understanding of "what boards is about" (not exactly sure where though), so I don't want to start an extensive debate on this in the cycling forum

    Thanks

    Beasty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    I am referring to the etiquette of internet forums

    to elaborate - it's clearly still finding it's feet !!

    Appears to me there are established protocols formed from when forums began on the web and then there are more general procedures that have always been in "mainstream" media - TV/newspapers etc. Then with online forums, you have relative newcomers like myself who would not be totally au fait with acceptable behaviour as it is a relatively new form of communication (eg I am still not clear on what trolling is - it never existed in such context as a term before web forums I gather. What's trolling to one person may be a totally valid point to another. And we have moderators to determine such).

    The anonimity factor is also interesting in this context - don't you think?

    Sorry if mods again think this is "trolling" for want of a better word but we are in tedious bickering and I am attempting to gain understanding of what exactly boards is all about! I have no intention to reduce my further participation on boards to levels where I am wasting mods time or going to their boundaries of discomfort. I am just now making a commentary on matters as I now see them.

    The boards cycling forum is clearly the liveliest cycling forum in Ireland afaik. Other sports like GAA have their own "niche" sites eg Fearr Dearg etc afaik.

    Sorry if I wasted anyone's time in reading this, or have caused any undue consideration by mods. All said in good spirit and with the intention of being enlightened / enlightening.


    It's quite simple... on an internet forum, it's entirely up to those who own it to decide what is and what is not acceptable, and to pass that responsibility on to mods, or cmods or admins or whatever. There's no over-arching "internet forum rules" that apply. Usually, it's accepted that people spend a bit of time lurking on a forum in order to find out what the tone is, and what is and isn't acceptable, or to start off by not being controversial etc until you've 'found your feet'.

    It's not rocket science


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭bcmf


    ....and here is me thinking the internet is all about cheap Ryanair flights, bike Porn,watching free Euro Racing and talking about riding. Such simple ideals I have


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Thief


    bcmf wrote: »
    ....and here is me thinking the internet is all about cheap Ryanair flights, bike Porn,watching free Euro Racing and talking about riding. Such simple ideals I have

    internet-serious-business-cat.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    bcmf wrote: »
    ....and here is me thinking the internet is all about cheap Ryanair flights, bike Porn,watching free Euro Racing and talking about riding. Such simple ideals I have

    :) its not difficult if you remember that there's no democracy online! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    :) its not difficult if you remember that there's no democracy online! :)
    Democracy aint that hot in the offline world either.
    I am thinking that the best way to progress as a society is to have some sort of a benign dictatorship. A firm but socially progressive leader whose only role would be to protect us from our worst excesses.
    We could have one final election, a sort of Political X factor, in order to find who this individual who would lead us to the promised land.

    Im not anti democracy per se, its just that I am not sure that it works well in Ireland. We have continually voted for idiots in an idiotic for of democratic representation, and when things inevitably go wrong, we blame others.

    A nation of idiots. We need internet mods in real life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭bcmf


    ROK ON wrote: »
    and when things inevitably go wrong, we blame others.
    I take it the 'we' you mean the to be inept,corrupt politicians who are are raping and destroying the country.
    Less then 100yrs of independence and they have flushed our souls and our nation down the jacks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,737 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    see phillip deignan has a nice new trek
    and ronan mclaughlin was out
    oh yes and my legs hurt after that club run

    oh yes and

    duty_calls.png

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Bunnyhopper


    "Cyclist Friend Explains Necessity Of $35 Socks"

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/cyclist-friend-explains-necessity-of-35-socks,18259/

    (Gets a bit odd at the end, but I think they get the cyclist-justifying-latest-purchase aspect pretty much spot-on.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    I LOVE the Onion! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,937 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    "Cyclist Friend Explains Necessity Of $35 Socks"

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/cyclist-friend-explains-necessity-of-35-socks,18259/

    (Gets a bit odd at the end, but I think they get the cyclist-justifying-latest-purchase aspect pretty much spot-on.)
    "I'm pretty sure these ones don't have the nanofibers, though," said Coseglia, unaware that in that instant, Washburn was confused as to whether or not the two were still talking about socks. "But you really don't need those. They're like 65 bucks. That's getting a little crazy."

    And, of course, soon he'll have bought the $65 socks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    "Cyclist Friend Explains Necessity Of $35 Socks"

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/cyclist-friend-explains-necessity-of-35-socks,18259/

    (Gets a bit odd at the end, but I think they get the cyclist-justifying-latest-purchase aspect pretty much spot-on.)
    The Onion wrote:
    Coseglia added that on Sunday he traveled 25 miles to go to a special bicycle equipment store to purchase several more pairs of socks, a statement leading his friend to silently calculate that in the past week Coseglia has spent more than $100 on socks.

    Amateur


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Lumen wrote: »

    High fives all-round!


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