How many hours of study do i need to get 500 POINTS and can i get into medicine

Weetbix · 28-09-2010 03:18PM #1

In England

Unfortunately for me am...... USELESS AT LIFE, which forced me to drop down in many subjects. I disappoint THE future ME, If i didn't commit suicide before i get there.

I have: OL Maths

OL Irish

OL Spanish

HL History

HL English

HL Chemistry

HL Biology

If i go to England i wouldn't need a language to do medicine (I REALLY WANT THIS)

So is it possible and how many hours of study most importantly

With grinds after Christmas

NotExactly · 28-09-2010 03:44PM

Weetbix wrote: »

In England

So is it possible and how many hours of study most importantly

With grinds after Christmas

Impossible is nothing

& also you can't say a certain amount of hours study a night will get you 500 points it doesn't work like that at all.

It depends on your dedication,motivation,concentration & natural ability & more.

jumpguy · 28-09-2010 03:55PM

First of all, time is running out to apply for medicine in England. The UCAS form closes for med applicants on the 15th of October, and the UKCAT deadline was yesterday. The BMAT deadline is a lil' later, according to the website it's 5PM on the 30th of September, and the late registration date is 15th October (but late registration means extra fees).

Secondly, the medicine is just as competitive for England as it is in Ireland, they don't use a points system. You're given a conditional offer on your Leaving Cert (so they tell you before you do the exam what grades they want you to get). Often, this is fairly hefty, like 4 or 5A1s. I'm not sure with the amount of pass subjects you're doing if it's achievable. BUT It's worth a shot!

My knowledge of applying for med in England isn't the best since I'm not applying myself, so I'm sure more people will be able to provide more information (especially in relation to the conditional offers).

In Ireland, 500 points is a bit low, although it's high enough to be considered (over 480 points). You'd need to do an exceptional HPAT to get into medicine with 500 points. It'd be very very rare for someone to get on that many points I'd say! I don't mean to be so negative, sorry, but most people are aiming at 550 or over.

lctake2 · 28-09-2010 04:34PM

I don't see how you'd get in in Ireland with 500 points, even with my 99th percentile hpat I still would have needed over 510. In England they'll want 5 As most places and most will want them to be A1s, you'll have to look into places that will take you without a UKcat if you haven't done one. Also I applied to England and most places wanted physics, and at least higher maths if not

partyatmygaff · 28-09-2010 04:36PM

You'd want to hurry...

The UKCAT closing date just passed yesterday and the BMAT is closing on the 30th. The BMAT is for Oxford/Cambridge/Imperial/Kings. Everywhere else needs the UKCAT. Afaik, the only one that needs neither is the University of Birmingham but they need AAAAAA and an exceptional reference/statement to be in with a competitive chance.

Another point is that all UCAS applications for Medicine irrespective of where you're applying need to be in before the 15th October.

Realistically speaking your only hope is the CAO and to tell you the truth at 500 points your going to need at least 225 points in your HPAT to be in with a competitive Irish offer and that's quite difficult considering the highest ever achieved (Afaik) is 225.

Have you considered Medicinal Chemistry and then graduate entry in to medicine?

theowen · 28-09-2010 05:20PM

Hardly anyone gets into med in england. Literally the best of the best i.e. all As.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 28-09-2010 06:37PM

Nobody here can possibly answer that question without knowing you and your ability. As time goes by I get frustrated by the amount of people who ask these type of questions.

Chuchoter · 28-09-2010 08:15PM

Why are certain things green :S

In any case you need all A1s to get over 500, and to be honest 500 is too low. You really need minimum 550 unless you get every single question on the HPAT right. I don't think England would really be an option either as they do not accept Irish as a subject and I don't know if ordinary levels count. Only the super duper Stephen Hawking people get into Med in England.

To be brutally honest, I'd be looking into either repeating with honours subjects or choosing a different course. I know thats not really the advice you were looking for, but with your subjects you don't really have a hope, maybe if you went up to honors Spanish you'd have a fighting chance.

seriouslysweet · 28-09-2010 10:05PM

Are you applying under the HEAR programme? There is a reason that so many move to DEIS schools last minute!

spurious · 28-09-2010 10:53PM

seriouslysweet wrote: »

Are you applying under the HEAR programme? There is a reason that so many move to DEIS schools last minute!

Just being in a DEIS school doesn't get you onto HEAR.

J_E · 28-09-2010 10:59PM

how many hours of study

Really you're better off if you put quality over quantity. When studying, give yourself a task, such as revising a chapter. Read it through, do the questions or exam papers on the chapter without looking back, and see what you got wrong or right and improve.
If you judge your study on how many hours you do you'll find that you'll just be trying to fill in blank time doing useless things. Take the time you need to get it done (as long as you don't take too long on it and not have enough time/energy for other subjects)

Bicycle · 28-09-2010 11:12PM

Focus on getting into a science degree, then get a 2.1 or higher and look at applying for Graduate Entry Medicine.

Either that or focus on getting a basic leaving cert this year and then do more predictable subjects next year such as Ag Science, Latin, Business etc.

seriouslysweet · 29-09-2010 02:51PM

Oh I know that Spurious, I have the booklet here in front of me, it is indeed quite a complex process but being in a DEIS school is a start!

theowen · 29-09-2010 08:01PM

seriouslysweet wrote: »

Are you applying under the HEAR programme? There is a reason that so many move to DEIS schools last minute!

Wrong. You have to have attended a DEIS school for at least five years.

TimeToShine · 29-09-2010 10:14PM

Medicine is an extremely overrated profession, the prestige that came with being a Doctor twenty years ago is long gone, now you're left on call all through the night getting assráped by your superiors, and you're not even paid THAT well.

And for fúcks sake, useless at life? Who gives a fúck if you're doing ordinary level subjects, all that shít vanishes once you get into college. Just because you can't learn pages upon pages of drivel and regurgitate said crap onto a piece of paper does not make you useless at life.

Having said that, if you really are serious about Medicine it's looking grim

I'd suggest doing a Science course and getting your BSc and then a back door way into medicine is possible.

ride-the-spiral · 29-09-2010 11:39PM

I know people who've gotten into medicine on the HEAR program with 500 points, but without the HEAR than you better be aiming for at least 520.

HavingCrack · 30-09-2010 01:26AM

I hate to break it to you OP but I reckon your best bet is to get a BSC and look for a graduate route into medicine afterwards either in Ireland, the UK, Canada or the US.

Sardonicat · 30-09-2010 01:34AM

HavingCrack wrote: »

I hate to break it to you OP but I reckon your best bet is to get a BSC and look for a graduate route into medicine afterwards either in Ireland, the UK, Canada or the US.

Just took the words out of my mouth.

You really want this and you can get it, just not straight away. Grad Med sounds like the most realistic option.

Do as well as you can in LC and give your best to your degree.

lctake2 · 01-10-2010 09:34AM

crayolastereo wrote: »

Why are certain things green :S

In any case you need all A1s to get over 500, and to be honest 500 is too low. You really need minimum 550 unless you get every single question on the HPAT right. I don't think England would really be an option either as they do not accept Irish as a subject and I don't know if ordinary levels count. Only the super duper Stephen Hawking people get into Med in England.

you don't need anywhere near like getting all the questions right in the HPAT to get in on less than 550, getting about 2/3 right on about 520 would be enough, getting 1/3 wrong I would have gotten in on 510 last year. Everywhere I applied to in the UK allowed me to use Irish as a subject. Some places there do not require exceptionally smart people, some only want 4 A's and 2 Bs, most I applied to wanted 5 and a B, some aren't even specific about whether they're A1s or A2s

EuropeanSon · 01-10-2010 09:05PM

Don't do medicine. It's scary and awful and involves work.

Craguls · 01-10-2010 09:48PM

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Don't do medicine. It's scary and awful and involves work.

Ignore comments like this and do want you're interested in instead.

Clearl · 02-10-2010 06:52PM

I don't want to be cruel, but with that level of self-esteem and amount of OL subjects, you're going to need a new career option....

Ciaramb92 · 02-10-2010 07:05PM

Weetbix wrote: »

I have: OL Maths

OL Irish

OL Spanish

HL History

HL English

HL Chemistry

HL Biology

With due respect, as others have said, you will need to get at least 520 points (that's with about 200 in the hpat). The maximum points you can get is 520 (because of all the ordinary levels).

This is near impossible as it requires A1s in your 4 higher and 2 ordinary level subjects. It also requires being in the 90th (roughly) percentile in the hpat.

It will be hard (impossible?) get accepted through UCAS as you only have 4 higher levels.

You need to think about how much you want this and it is possible the only way you will become a doctor is as a graduate entrant.

theowen · 02-10-2010 07:23PM

Ciaramb92 wrote: »

With due respect, as others have said, you will need to get at least 520 points (that's with about 200 in the hpat). The maximum points you can get is 520 (because of all the ordinary levels).

This is near impossible as it requires A1s in your 4 higher and 2 ordinary level subjects. It also requires being in the 90th (roughly) percentile in the hpat.

It will be hard (impossible?) get accepted through UCAS as you only have 4 higher levels.

You need to think about how much you want this and it is possible the only way you will become a doctor is as a graduate entrant.

Can always repeat too. I was in the exact same position, 4 honours and 2 pass, repeated and now I'm in Med.

How many hours of study do i need to get 500 POINTS and can i get into medicine

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