Sexual Harassment.... eh, YEAH of course!

ilovemybrick wrote: »

There is a certain kind of hypocrisy that is necessary for you to believe that your defence of this "reporter's" behavior is in fact a feminist one.

Where the hell did I say that? I don't even consider feminism that relevant in the western world any more. She said the locker-room frat boy carry-on made her feel uncomfortable and embarrassed (now if it had been, for instance, a cheerleader who had an understanding with the lads and pretty much revelled in that kind of attention, cool, but this woman was working as a reporter) and she was told "Well you shouldn't dress that way" including the dumb-ass comment from the Fox TV guy. She can dress how she likes and she can expect admiring looks, compliments, the odd harmless bawdy comment maybe from guys who know her (it would be unreasonable for her to object to any of the above) but her attire does not make it ok for lads to act in a boorish, idiotic way that isn't pleasant for her, no matter how much she likes looking sexy.
The only ones who maintain this is a feminist issue are some guys posting to this thread, and guys who'd flip I bet if a woman said some guys can't help themselves and lose control and behave like a dog in heat when a woman displays some flesh... yet funnily enough, they're pretty much saying that very thing here.

It seems as if you jump to this "reporter's" defence simply because you do believe she is being harassed.

It's a pity it has to be repeated ad nauseum, but the whole point of the report was: she said it made her uncomfortable. If this was just some feminazi coming along and saying "Down with sexism!" like in the Simpsons Duff ad (:D) when the woman herself was absolutely fine with it, I'd be of the same view as the "Lighten tfu, feminazi" contingent (although without resorting to the "ugly fat dyke" bla bla comments some guys feel the need to constantly resort to which just cheapens their argument and makes them come across as extremely bitter themselves).
Some very lazy people who couldn't be bothered reading my posts, or are just slow, or are just dicks (money's on the latter) decided I'm a woman who's anti strip-club, anti topless pictures, anti stuff like the Hunky Dorys ad so gleefully threw out/wanked... sorry, thanked the insults (including some who arrogantly think they're "mature") which is just extremely laughable - I've been on the receiving end of objections then on the Ladies' Lounge for defending these things :pac:. But that's not what it's about at all. It's about the woman feeling uncomfortable because of it. Essentially my opinion is: attention, compliments, admiring glances, even harmless bawdy comments are fine (they're great really :pac:) but just keep them somewhat toned down and don't resort to losing your decorum and dignity and behaving like a ****ing ape.

men defending their right to treat her like a whore (I am not insinuating that this is correct or that people should do this)

Ya kinda are... that seems to be the whole crux of this argument. Ok you're not explicitly saying it's all right, but you do seem to be saying she'd bring it on herself.

It's not even anything to do with gender/sex anyway, in my opinion, it's just basic manners: if a person walks down the street wearing OTT clothes of any kind - e.g. a quilt and curtains, they need to put up and shut up if they get looks (with no harm intended) but they don't deserve to be yelled and jeered at.

Btw, I don't think she was sexually harassed - just treated with a lack of manners, but in a context where it's apparently ok, according to some, to treat people with a lack of manners.

uwala wrote: »

Dudess your feminazi rants are making me uncomfortable. We have the right to come here and not be harassed with boorish feminazi chimpanzee-style rants. Honestly, I'd expect a bit of maturity, it's just basic manners. Some women should just cop on, and grow up, and stop behaving like gibbons or orang-utans.

Uncalled for.

*picks flea from fur*

Classic feminazi reversal. "We did nothing wrong, it's all the mens fault"

So its ok for Dudess to rant about men "behaving like ******* apes", yet if men defend themselves from male-bashing (which is rampant through the media nowadays) they are spouting "baseless insulting rhetoric". Calling men "apes" isn't insulting? Oh wait a woman said it, that's ok, they can say whatever they like. Men, on the other hand, can't say anything.

uwala wrote: »

Classic feminazi reversal. "We did nothing wrong, it's all the mens fault"

So its ok for Dudess to rant about men "behaving like ******* apes", yet if men defend themselves from male-bashing (which is rampant through the media nowadays) they are spouting "baseless insulting rhetoric". Calling men "apes" isn't insulting? Oh wait a woman said it, that's ok, they can say whatever they like. Men, on the other hand, can't say anything.

Dude get a grip...

You are letting yourself down badly.

uwala wrote: »

Dudess your feminazi rants are making me uncomfortable. We have the right to come here and not be harassed with boorish feminazi chimpanzee-style rants. Honestly, I'd expect a bit of maturity, it's just basic manners. Some women should just cop on, and grow up, and stop behaving like gibbons or orang-utans.

You just want your hole! :mad:



:pac:

Kimia wrote: »

When did it become about everyone else?

When you're broadcasting to thousands, like the interviewer perhaps....

Although i fcuking hate the JETS and would love to have them all arrested for rape before the game on Sunday before my beloved Patriots, i'll have to defend them to a degree.


This 'reporter' dresses and acts like a slut to further her career, then cries "pity me" when she gets treated as such.

At media day at last year's superbowl (this is where bunch or reporters are throwing into a room and have to basically fight to each other to interview players) she wore a top where he tits were practically hanging out and tight jeans. She could have worn a suit like most of the reporters there (male and female), she could have got interviews based on a having reputation of being a good interviewer and writer where players would be glad to talk to her in a professional manner but she isn't a reputable NFL reporter because she whores herself out for attention and interviews.


There are many female journalists in the NFL and some who are stunners but the majority of them are professionals who dress and carry themselves appropriately and wouldnt use sexuality to get further in their careers. Im not saying these women dont suffer from sexual harrasment from time to time but they certainly don't go out looking for it like in this instance.

Kimia wrote: »

Women should be allowed wear what they like without being harassed and catcalled and whistled at. Believe it or not, most women (I believe) dress to please their own sense of identity, not for the sole purpose of getting attention from men.

But the problem is that this 'reporter' does. She dresses like that to get interviews off the NFL players.

She is not a well known reporter, she doesnt write any NFL articles for any big news papers or websites.

Also i would like to add the TV company she works for TV Azteca and her know exactly what theyre doing, they previously sent a reporter to the 2008 Super Bowl media day in a wedding dress and had her propose to Tom Brady.

TBH she is a kick in the teeth to women journalists and women right's in general.