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Just had my NCT done in Arklow..

  • 23-08-2010 09:51AM
    #1
    Gilhooley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭


    I just had my NCT done in Arklow and the car passed no problem. Five minutes after driving away from the test centre, a weird warning light popped up on my dash. I had to pull over and check the car manual as I'd never seen the light before. According to the manual it is the disk brake replacement warning telling me brakes are going bad. So, I drove back to the test centre, explained what happened and the guy looked at me like I was insane and said "Well maybe your brakes are going bad". He then explained that maybe the brakes were good enough to pass the NCT but still going bad..????

    So, for some strange reason, my brake warning lights come on five minutes after my NCT? I've had the car for six years and never seen the lights before. If I have to bring the car to the mechanic and there is a problem due to negligence on the part of the NCT testing centre, can I be re-imbursed for expenses? Has anyone had a similar problem such as this?


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  • #2
    djimi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    If youre brakes are going then its not the fault of the NCT tbf. Perhaps they could have pointed it out to you but I really dont see how or why you would get reimbursed for anything from them for it?


  • #3
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,495 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    The NCT test that your brakes work. Your car has a brake sensor. Your brakes work so no problem NCT. The car has detected they will need replacing soon. They still work, though.

    Go get your brakes done and hopefully you will be OK at the next NCT.


  • #4
    Max Power1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    After getting the NCT cert, why would you go back and say there was a fault??

    Take the cert, and go to a garage to get the brakes checked imo;)


  • #5
    Gilhooley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Gilhooley


    Well, because the sensor came on five minutes after having the NCT done and never before in five years? You wouldn't think that brakes that are going bad should pass the NCT would you? Brakes passed no problem according to the NCT...


  • #6
    DannyBuoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭DannyBuoy


    Gilhooley wrote: »
    Well, because the sensor came on five minutes after having the NCT done and never before in five years? You wouldn't think that brakes that are going bad should pass the NCT would you? Brakes passed no problem according to the NCT...

    Its most likely the brake wear warning light, which means pads are nearing their replacement time due to limited friction material left on them. That doesn't mean there's a fault with them or they're not working properly. It just means they will need replacing shortly.


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  • #7
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gilhooley wrote: »
    If I have to bring the car to the mechanic and there is a problem due to negligence on the part of the NCT testing centre, can I be re-imbursed for expenses? Has anyone had a similar problem such as this?

    There is no negligence on behalf of the NCT chap. Your car passed the tests, NCT have the report to prove this. Go and get your pads / discs whatever replaced and stop trying to blame someone. Re-imbursed for expenses :rolleyes: In all f ing fairness.


  • #8
    djimi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    Go to a mechanic and get it checked out. Chances are the brakes are on the limit of what is acceptable to pass, but low enough to trigger the sensor. It could be a coincidence; Im not entirely sure what the NCT would have done to make the sensor light come on, but a trip to a mechanic should reveal all.


  • #9
    Max Power1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Gilhooley wrote: »
    Well, because the sensor came on five minutes after having the NCT done and never before in five years? You wouldn't think that brakes that are going bad should pass the NCT would you? Brakes passed no problem according to the NCT...
    The sensor is a warning light that the brakes are wearing and need to be replaced soon. Still retaining functionality for another while, hence why they passed the NCT.


  • #10
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    The only thing that the NCT could have possibly done to "cause" this fault light coming on all of a sudden is that they shook a dodgy electrical connector on the sensor back into life.


  • #11
    Gilhooley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Gilhooley


    "It just means they will need replacing shortly."

    Just to clarify, I am not trying to blame somone or get something for nothing. If the NCT tells me that my brakes are in good shape and my mechanic does as well, then why does the sensor suddenly come on after the NCT lads looked at my brakes? Had the car serviced two weeks before NCT and all was good. Five minutes after NCT I have this warning light permanently on my dash that was never there before? Seriously....


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  • #12
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    peasant wrote: »
    The only thing that the NCT could have possibly done to "cause" this fault light coming on all of a sudden is that they shook a dodgy electrical connector on the sensor back into life.

    I was just thinking the same.

    On a car that age I would expect the pads to need doing, also a sensor could of worked loose.

    Either way i would consider it a classic case of wear and tear


  • #13
    Gilhooley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Gilhooley


    "I'm not entirely sure what the NCT would have done to make the sensor light come on, but a trip to a mechanic should reveal all."

    Yeah, but I gotta pay for that! Just had it serviced and now I have to bring it back?


  • #14
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NCT lads have a peak at the discs to make check they are not worn excessively thin, they'd want to wafer thin to fail though, they'll pass them no probs with a good wear lip on them. The light is no doubt for the pads wearing, there is probably a good few hundred miles left in them.


  • #15
    langdang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    The sensor is a warning light that the brakes are wearing and need to be replaced soon. Still retaining functionality for another while, hence why they passed the NCT.
    Exactly, the brakes are fine for the moment but due to normal wear and tear they will need to be replaced soon. It wouldn't be much of a system if it waited until 0.1mm before metal on metal, waited til you got to motorway speed, then told you "BTW your brakes are F****d. LOL"


  • #16
    djimi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    Gilhooley wrote: »
    "I'm not entirely sure what the NCT would have done to make the sensor light come on, but a trip to a mechanic should reveal all."

    Yeah, but I gotta pay for that! Just had it serviced and now I have to bring it back?

    There is a light on your dashboard telling you that your brakes are on the way out. You have two choices; you can ask a mechanic to look at it or you can remain mad, do nothing and hope that its something that the NCT have broken. This is your brakes we are talking about. Are you really in a pickle as to what to do about it?

    Take it to a mechanic. If it does turn out to be something that was caused by the NCT then at least you have something to base your complaints on when you go back to them. At the moment you, nor any of us, have any idea what the problem might be.

    When you got the car serviced, are you sure the mechanic said the brakes were fine, or did he say that they would pass the NCT? Two different things...


  • #17
    Gilhooley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Gilhooley


    Right, nice to know that you can pass the NCT with brakes that will fail in a few weeks. What was I so worried about?


  • #18
    ronaneire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭ronaneire


    Gilhooley wrote: »
    "It just means they will need replacing shortly."

    Just to clarify, I am not trying to blame somone or get something for nothing. If the NCT tells me that my brakes are in good shape and my mechanic does as well, then why does the sensor suddenly come on after the NCT lads looked at my brakes? Had the car serviced two weeks before NCT and all was good. Five minutes after NCT I have this warning light permanently on my dash that was never there before? Seriously....

    Have you heard of wear and tear?
    Brakes do wear down!
    Gilhooley wrote: »
    "I'm not entirely sure what the NCT would have done to make the sensor light come on, but a trip to a mechanic should reveal all."

    Yeah, but I gotta pay for that! Just had it serviced and now I have to bring it back?

    Nothing is free, but maybe your mechanic missed something.
    Come back and tell us after your mechanic as taken a look.


  • #19
    djimi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    Youre brakes wont fail in a few weeks. Any sensors on brakes will warn you in plenty of time that they need changing.

    The NCT is not a car servicing service; they are there to tell you whether your car meets the minimum safety standard. Your brakes obviously meet this standard, ie they will continue to stop your car safely for another while, but your car is telling you that it is time to get them changed.

    Edited to say I dont actually know if your brakes will fail in a few weeks or not; for all I know both your mechanic and the NCT could have missed something and they could well be on their last legs. My advice is to get them checked out ASAP.


  • #20
    Gilhooley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Gilhooley


    "When you got the car serviced, are you sure the mechanic said the brakes were fine, or did he say that they would pass the NCT? Two different things."

    I always get my car serviced twice a year and had this done two weeks ago. The mechanics will take any opportunity to replace anything that needs to be done since I won't be back for another six months (as most good mechanics would). I don't have the measurements but the brake pads were fine two weeks ago according to my mechanic. Anyway, yeah I'll have to bring it back but don't really trust the lads at the NCT Centre. Anyway, thanks for all the advice, but I still think something is up...


  • #21
    daRobot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭daRobot


    It's either just a co-incidence that this happened at that time, or the sensor was "shook" back into life.

    Either way, get your brakes attended to.


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  • #22
    Gophur
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Gophur


    OP, you obviously do not fully understand what the NCT is about.

    It is not a certificate of road-worthiness for your car. It's simply a certificate stating your car conformed to certain standards at one particular time. NCT has no obligation re: car safety, once your car leaves the NCT office.


  • #23
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Not commonly known but NCT try their best to wear braking systems to the bone, so that they'll either display a warning light or ideally fail altogether, immediately after passing the test.

    p.s. They are in cahoots with the reverse vampires, rand corporation, and the saucer people.


  • #24
    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    Not commonly known but NCT try their best to wear braking systems to the bone, so that they'll either display a warning light or ideally fail altogether, immediately after passing the test.

    p.s. They are in cahoots with the reverse vampires, rand corporation, and the saucer people.

    They'll shaft you every time :p


  • #25
    Gilhooley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Gilhooley


    "OP, you obviously do not fully understand what the NCT is about.

    It is not a certificate of road-worthiness for your car. It's simply a certificate stating your car conformed to certain standards at one particular time."

    Oh, sorry for being so naive. I stand corrected...


  • #26
    Gilhooley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Gilhooley


    "Not commonly known but NCT try their best to wear braking systems to the bone, so that they'll either display a warning light or ideally fail altogether, immediately after passing the test."

    Wow, that is really really funny. I think your talents are being wasted at the call centre.


  • #27
    langdang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    Not commonly known but NCT try their best to wear braking systems to the bone, so that they'll either display a warning light or ideally fail altogether, immediately after passing the test.

    p.s. They are in cahoots with the reverse vampires, rand corporation, and the saucer people.
    Get on to Jim Corr gilhooley, he'll explain it all to you!


  • #28
    Gilhooley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Gilhooley


    langdang wrote: »
    Get on to Jim Corr gilhooley, he'll explain it all to you!

    Yeah, I am beginning to think so...


  • #29
    [Deleted User]
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    OP - stop digging a hole and get your pads changed. Question the mechanic who serviced the car why did he not mention to you the pads were quite worn.


  • #30
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    There is however the slight possibility that the brakes are just dandy and the NCT fella broke a sensor cable while poking around


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  • #31
    Gilhooley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭Gilhooley


    "There is however the slight possibility that the brakes are just dandy and the NCT fella broke a sensor cable while poking around"

    My point exactly, thank you! I will get it checked out and report back but I am quite sure that the brakes are fine...


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