Mindless drunken vandalism

bytey · 17-08-2010 09:09PM

Superbus wrote: »

Bit much really? Granted it's scummy behaviour but that kind of language is always ott.

I hope they drop dead too, after getting ass raped with AIDS .

hows that for OTT ??

Cavehill Red · 17-08-2010 10:00PM

Bogsnorkler wrote: »

I for one think it's marvelous how anyone who goes to a GAA match and have a few pints is categorized as scum of the earth.

Give over. The ones who trash property and defecate publicly and roar in my neighbourhood till all hours ARE scum of the earth. They also happen to be so-called GAA fans, and until the rest of you start showing zero tolerance to this sort of animal behaviour from your mates, it'll keep continuing with your tacit approval. Enough of your 'shure it's only a bit of craic' bolloxology. You'd be singing another song if they put your car's windows in.

Bogsnorkler wrote: »

Having been to Croke park every year since god knows when, i haven't seen this.

You see what you want to see. Try standing outside Quinns or the Parrot or any other pub in Croke's vicinity at around 1am after a big game and tell me what you see then.

Bogsnorkler wrote: »

Maybe it is a good idea to play more championship matches down the country. Twould be less of a drive for the likes of myself more likely, and would boost the local economy in badly needed rural areas.

I couldn't agree more. Play them all down the country please.

Fulton Crown · 17-08-2010 10:01PM

bytey wrote: »

I hope they drop dead too, after getting ass raped with AIDS .

hows that for OTT ??

Excellent post pal...concise..balanced.....you must be a very reasonable rounded individual.

Not one of them beardie socialists are you ?

Fulton Crown · 17-08-2010 10:05PM

If all you have to sound off about is a bit of sh1te in your garden or a bit of
P1ss in your letterbox ..you must live a very sheltered life.

The fans are entitled to enjoy themselves in a reasonable way and there will always be a few bad eggs.

Don't get so worked about it ...

Bogsnorkler · 17-08-2010 10:08PM

I don't understand why you insist on tarring all supporters with the same brush? Surely you must know some GAA fans from down the country, and don't regard them as animals? IMO people who stay around Croke park after are not the majority. Speaking as a Corkman, after a win or loss i much perfer to head home and have the few pints there and discuss the match.

I have massive sympathy with your friend and the fact that this is allowed happen is not only a sad indictment of SOME sections of SOME counties supporters, but of society as a whole.

It is a disgrace what happened, but what most people are taking issue is with your assumption that these people are an accurate reflection of country people, not even GAA supporters.

Cavehill Red · 17-08-2010 10:22PM

Read the entire thread, Snorkler. We already covered the tar-brush crap earlier, and the 'it's not all the fans' thing too, and if you'd read any of my posts on the thread you'd realise I never made the assumption you just attributed to me.
I wish all the fans were like you and left the stadium area instantly after a match, and took their vomit, sh!te, shouting, vandalism and rubbish with them.
But they don't all do that. Some of them hang around and trash my neighbourhood and my mate's property and my garden and ring my doorbell at all hours after a match. And it's disgusting behaviour and I've no tolerance for it and don't see why I should have to put up with such animal activity from people claiming to be sports fans.
They're not sports fans. They're scum, plain and simple, and it would be nice to hear more GAA fans saying so and acting to prevent this behaviour from the people who wear the same jerseys as they do.
It's my neighbourhood they destroy, but it's you and your community they're letting down.

Curry chip · 17-08-2010 10:27PM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

<sings> Autoglass repair, Autoglass replace

hehe - I was thinking the same...

Bogsnorkler · 17-08-2010 10:28PM

why should the well behaved fans be held responsible? If it was an issue with scumbags from Dublin running amok in Galway, would Galway people be holding all Dubs accountable? Not if they're any way reasonable

Make a stink, get a support group going and embarrass the powers that be to put guards on the street the night after matches, and then these louts can be made an example of.

Thats what'll solve the problem, not berating every patron of Croke park.

Curry chip · 17-08-2010 10:30PM

Itsdacraic wrote: »

Yes, the GAA need to put a stop to playing games at 3 in the morning.

:pac:

Cavehill Red · 17-08-2010 10:37PM

Bogsnorkler wrote: »

why should the well behaved fans be held responsible? If it was an issue with scumbags from Dublin running amok in Galway, would Galway people be holding all Dubs accountable? Not if they're any way reasonable

Make a stink, get a support group going and embarrass the powers that be to put guards on the street the night after matches, and then these louts can be made an example of.

Thats what'll solve the problem, not berating every patron of Croke park.

You really do need to read the thread.
NO ONE is blaming all the fans. But there is a responsibility on all people coming into my area to ensure that they AND those in their company treat the place with respect as the place of residence that it is.
The Gardai don't patrol the area after games and repeated protests and appeals to the superintendent and the GAA have been ignored.
So I'm now appealing to the GAA fans who come to Croke Park to demonstrate what common decency they possess by not only showing respect to the neighbourhood but ensuring that their fellow fans do likewise in future.

flas · 17-08-2010 10:42PM

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

The irony here is that if you go into the country side, it literally smells of shit, and there is shit everywhere.

no it does not and no there is not.

you do know that once you go past the m50 its not just fields?

flas · 17-08-2010 11:20PM

Dionysus wrote: »

Ahem. The "incomplete stadium", Mr Garrison Game, is so because the Dublin supporters mounted a huge petition years ago to preserve Hill 16.

i hate all this garrison game ****e,if it wasnt for the british you wouldnt have a county to follow as they were the ones to introduce our counties to us!!

Lanaier · 18-08-2010 06:11AM

Interesting that so many peoples knee-jerk response is "Don't tar us all with the same brush!!!"....rather than concern for a citizen who is suffering from the bad behavior of drunks .
I don't think OP ever suggested that all GAA fans are responsible, or maybe he did and I missed it.

The idea that he should have to move is ludicrous, or that he should have known this would happen.
Basically your saying that everyone in the area should be fine with getting their stuff trashed, and they pretty much deserve it for living there. Old and young alike.
Wonderful response.
Or that if a poor family moves into an area with a high crime rate they deserve whats coming...or that if the number of rapes go up in a certain area then women who don't move can't complain when it happens.

In many defining moments throughout history there have been innocent people who perhaps should have "just moved" when scumbags came to their home.
The not so distant history of Ireland included.

A human being has the right to protect himself from this behavior.
I'm actually kind of taken aback reading all these responses.

Pdfile · 18-08-2010 06:44AM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

To the pissed-up GAA-heads who found it amusing to launch a handful of stones at my mate's car last night, causing 300 euro of damage to the windscreen, I hope you drop dead.
That poor lad is unemployed with a family to look after and needs his car to find work. He can't afford to replace the windscreen just because you're a sadcase who didn't get your hole in Quinns last night.
It's a pity the hundreds of Gardai who stand around Drumcondra looking hard during Croke Park matches (when nothing happens) are nowhere to be seen when tens of thousands of fans get wellied into the drink afterwards and make sh!te of the area because they're up in the big smoke and decide it would be entertaining to destroy the hard-earned property of Dublin residents who have to put up with their crap every other week for half the year.

this always happens, ive alot of friends and cant park anywhere around their to begin with and if its not the clutchies all bitter about the fact that coca cola is 10c more expencive up here its that ive got the Dubs sticker, on me blue car with a light blue dark blue combo on myself ( shirt n jeans.... )

they can all go shiwvle on daddys farm money.

they do grind my f****** gears.

bigbadbear · 18-08-2010 07:14AM

After reading the first 40 posts on this thread I can only see ridiculous sweeping statements coming from all sides of this argument. The bottom line is stop moaning!! Everyone with a brain detests scumbags throwing stones at peoples cars but the only solution is to ban games in croker. Get the F*** over it!! anti gaa/anti 'bogger' /anti dubs comments are just small minded.

The gaa has better etiquette than soccer so please dont try and say there is some sort of sport specific trend that defines this kind of behaviour.

The bottom line is that scum are scum and they are in all different walks of life. Living near the largest sports arena in Ireland means you are more prone to be victim of this horrible behaviour and this will never change.

spurious · 18-08-2010 07:31AM

This is not a culchie/dub issue. It's a scum/normal people issue.

There is no escaping the fact that it does not happen to anything like the same extent on soccer/rugby/concert days.

mickydoomsux · 18-08-2010 09:47AM

bigbadbear wrote: »

The gaa has better etiquette than soccer so please dont try and say there is some sort of sport specific trend that defines this kind of behaviour.

Does it really?

What about all the stories about refs being physically assaulted at club games?

GAA-heads are usually ignorant assholes and this is coming from someone from Kilkenny. I live across the road from the home ground of a fairly well known Kilkenny club team and whenever there's training or a match on i'm gauranteed that either my parking space outside my house will be taken if i'm not there and i come back home or if i am there i'll be boxed in by some clown. I've been late for work a couple of times because i had to go and find the cretin who's blocked me in. Ignorant, ignorant people who have no consideration for anyone but themselves and their team of over-hyped boggers.

And before anyone says 'well it's your fault for buying a house there', well, i thought people might actaully have the intelligence and decency not to park in front of someone else property so they can go watch grown men chase a ball around with sticks and get paid nothing for it.

mloc · 18-08-2010 09:52AM

Fulton Crown wrote: »

If all you have to sound off about is a bit of sh1te in your garden or a bit of
P1ss in your letterbox ..you must live a very sheltered life.

The fans are entitled to enjoy themselves in a reasonable way and there will always be a few bad eggs.

Don't get so worked about it ...

Your post doesn't make a lot of sense.

You say fans "entitled to enjoy themselves in a reasonable way", which is of course true, but a reasonable way does not mean for one second stepping outside the limits of the law nor does it mean it's ok to vandalise other peoples property.

You then seem to imply he should just get over the fact people do these things anyway, none of which are reasonable. If they are the way some people enjoy themselves, those people should not be allowed to attend these matches. The GAA really needs to be more active in preventing them from doing so.

Dionysus · 18-08-2010 10:34AM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

GAA-heads are usually ignorant assholes .... Ignorant, ignorant people who have no consideration for anyone but themselves and their team of over-hyped boggers.... so they can go watch grown men chase a ball around with stick.

How very revealing.

mickydoomsux wrote: »

I live across the road from the home ground of a fairly well known Kilkenny club team and whenever there's training or a match on i'm gauranteed that either my parking space outside my house will be taken

You own a parking space outside your house, like on the public street? Do tell.

StupidLikeAFox · 18-08-2010 10:56AM

The only question I have is why were the Dublin scumbags dressed as GAA fans?

They're evolving....

Dionysus · 18-08-2010 11:00AM

flas wrote: »

i hate all this garrison game ****e,if it wasnt for the british you wouldnt have a county to follow as they were the ones to introduce our counties to us!!

Actually, the 'county' was introduced by the Normans, referring to the domain of a count (AF. counte, or OF. and It. conte).

The British garrison introduced soccer while hammering ten shades of shíte out of the natives, hence the name Garrison Game. Don't fight history. If soccer fanatics like Dave Hannigan can acknowledge the political and military reality underpinning the history of soccer in Ireland, surely you can rise to the occasion.

mloc · 18-08-2010 11:01AM

Dionysus wrote: »

history

Yeah. GTF over it.

bytey · 18-08-2010 12:09PM

Fulton Crown wrote: »

Excellent post pal...concise..balanced.....you must be a very reasonable rounded individual.

Not one of them beardie socialists are you ?

why yes I am a bearded socialist , your skills are amazing
.but I'm not your pal .

GeorgeCostanza · 18-08-2010 12:25PM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Why the fcuk should I have to move, or any of my neighbours either? So that you or your drunk thug pals can sh!te in gardens, dance on cars and act like animals?
Why should any of us have to move away from an area which we love, which we take care over, where people look out for each other, in easy reach of the city centre and workplaces and schools and hospitals and the amenities we need?
So you and your pals can have a free rein at vandalism and public defecation and roaring your heads off till all hours?
Why the fcuk should I have to move?
Why can't you and everyone else who comes into my area treat it with some fcuking respect, as the homes of people who tolerate your invasion of their neighbourhood on a far-too-regular basis with astonishing good grace?

Rant & Rave forum that way ->

(for the record, I live in Dublin. And the last place you'd see me is at a GAA match...)

rossie1977 · 18-08-2010 12:28PM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Does it really?
.

well i have yet to hear about massive riots breaking out during gaa matches, entire city centres smashed up after gaa matches, people being stabbed before matches, rival supporters beating the crap out of each other in bars/street corners, this happens in soccer

the only real sour incident i remember in gaa was when that donegal fan was murdered a few hours after the all-ireland final in 1992 on the streets of dublin

Gang of Gin · 18-08-2010 12:57PM

Fulton Crown wrote: »

No need to get personal pal.

It was either that or drop a kilo of runny sour in my breeks.

Now quit bellyaching about your mates banger ...I've got news for you pal ..these things happen.

Beats the sh1t out of me how people rent accomodation near a stadium and then whinge and complain about crowds on match days.

Join the freekin dots pal.....:rolleyes:

Gang of Gin · 18-08-2010 01:15PM

An anagram of the OP's username is "Car Held Evil". Maybe those vandals thought it needed an exorcism:pac:

Qualitymark · 18-08-2010 01:27PM

Hmm. Dublin needs money. Onstreet cameras, automatic €1,000 fine for anyone defiling people's gardens or property, money to go into the upkeep of the city...?

Lizzzard · 18-08-2010 02:11PM

spurious wrote: »

This is not a culchie/dub issue. It's a scum/normal people issue.

There is no escaping the fact that it does not happen to anything like the same extent on soccer/rugby/concert days.

I was just about to bring this up, have any Croker locals had their cars smashed/robbed, doorsteps pi$$ed on/puked on etc. during rugby matches or concerts when they were on there??

My view is that GAA fans as a whole are a bunch of idiots who can't control themselves for love nor money, be it Dubs, Cats, or where ever your from.

And to non Dubliners, we should treat our country with respect no matter where you are in it, we're all Irish at the end of the day.
It's like a scene from a cheap Spainish holiday in the Costa Del Sol the way some of the culchies carry on.

Gang of Gin · 18-08-2010 02:35PM

Lizzzard wrote: »

I was just about to bring this up, have any Croker locals had their cars smashed/robbed, doorsteps pi$$ed on/puked on etc. during rugby matches or concerts when they were on there??

My view is that GAA fans as a whole are a bunch of idiots who can't control themselves for love nor money, be it Dubs, Cats, or where ever your from.

And to non Dubliners, we should treat our country with respect no matter where you are in it, we're all Irish at the end of the day.
It's like a scene from a cheap Spainish holiday in the Costa Del Sol the way some of the culchies carry on.

You seem like a bigotted idiot.

Mindless drunken vandalism

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