C&H sex discussion thread

Grindylow · 30-07-2010 07:27PM

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I really hate these double standards! If a girl sleeps with loads of guys she's called a slut, but if a guy does the same thing he's a "homosexual"...

:pac:

Pfft ripped from Post of the day a while ago! :P:pac:

Pygmalion · 30-07-2010 07:30PM

Noel2k9 wrote: »

Its far worse on girls though IMO. If a boy sleeps around its seen as being cool, etc. But if a girl sleeps around she gets a reputation as being a whore!

People say that every time any sex-related discussion comes up, but I rarely encounter anyone who actually thinks that way.
There are of course people who think that, but they're usually dicks, and aren't representative.

Grindylow · 30-07-2010 07:35PM

Pygmalion wrote: »

People say that every time any sex-related discussion comes up, but I rarely encounter anyone who actually thinks that way.
There are of course people who think that, but they're usually dicks, and aren't representative.

Well it happens in my school all the time. No joke! There are girls who get labelled as whores for just getting with one person, even though the people are actually fairly nice/been with the person for ages.

storm2811 · 30-07-2010 07:44PM

Noel2k9 wrote: »

Well it happens in my school all the time. No joke! There are girls who get labelled as whores for just getting with one person, even though the people are actually fairly nice/been with the person for ages.

Immaturity at it's best there.:pac:

There's this one girl in my year,who's been with nearly everyone from 1st year up and instead of getting called a whore she's praised for it by the other girls.

The lads on the other hand just use her and know she's easy.

30-07-2010 07:48PM

Noel2k9 wrote: »

Well it happens in my school all the time. No joke! There are girls who get labelled as whores for just getting with one person, even though the people are actually fairly nice/been with the person for ages.

I think the point is that if a guy sleeps around most people just think he's a feckin' tool.

sock puppet · 30-07-2010 07:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think the point is that if a guy sleeps around most people just think he's a feckin' tool.

Why what's wrong with sleeping around? I'm sure most of the girls know what they're getting into.

jumpguy · 30-07-2010 07:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think the point is that if a guy sleeps around most people just think he's a feckin' tool.

Not really, just so long as he doesn't go around boasting about it or anything. Not being a dick.

Grindylow · 30-07-2010 07:57PM

sock puppet wrote: »

Why what's wrong with sleeping around? I'm sure most of the girls know what they're getting into.

Its called having self respect?

jumpguy wrote: »

Not really, just so long as he doesn't go around boasting about it or anything. Not being a dick.

Exactly, if he's in a cliche group of just more guys, then its pretty much set in stone for him to be deemed as cool by them. Where as if a girl does it and her group find out she's deemed as the slut of the group.

Novella · 30-07-2010 07:59PM

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I really hate these double standards! If a girl sleeps with loads of guys she's called a slut, but if a guy does the same thing he's a "homosexual"...

:pac:

It actually took me about ten minutes to get this...

Noel2k9 wrote: »

Well it happens in my school all the time. No joke! There are girls who get labelled as whores for just getting with one person, even though the people are actually fairly nice/been with the person for ages.

It's school. Everyone is young, and sex and what not is new and it's scandal and it's probably better fun and more interesting to talk about than French verbs or what Maths homework you got. I suppose not everyone is doing it either, but the novelty does soon wear off.

There is a difference between being a 'slut' and sleeping with a lot of people, imo. I don't care how many people anyone has slept with, as long as they've done so maturely, for the right reasons, with respect and been careful. Being discreet is sort of what matters. The kind of girl who thinks it's 'cool' that's she been with half the class and uses every opportunity to say so, that'd bother me. If the same girl slept with everyone of those guys, just 'cause she liked sex or whatever, and didn't feel the need to make it known and brag about it, great.

A lot of the time, girls who are known as 'easy' are actually just really insecure and the reason they feel the need to be with so many guys is because they just want some affection. I think I've seen of less of this kind of thing as I've gotten older.

Anyway, what am I talking about again? Yeah, STAY SAFE!

sock puppet · 30-07-2010 08:00PM

Noel2k9 wrote: »

Its called having self respect?

So abstinence or monogamy is a prerequisite to having respect for yourself?

Pygmalion · 30-07-2010 08:08PM

Noel2k9 wrote: »

Well it happens in my school all the time. No joke! There are girls who get labelled as whores for just getting with one person, even though the people are actually fairly nice/been with the person for ages.

In secondary school sure, but most people who aren't just dicks will grow out of it.
Casual sex is, for better or worse (can't say I'm personally a fan), pretty much seen as the norm for both genders of a certain age range, claiming that this double standard persists outside of the minds of the immature and the sexist is a bit much.

Konata · 30-07-2010 08:10PM

Novella wrote: »

A lot of the time, girls who are known as 'easy' are actually just really insecure and the reason they feel the need to be with so many guys is because they just want some affection. I think I've seen of less of this kind of thing as I've gotten older.

I was just about to comment saying this exactly :P

Luckily, I've never been labelled a "slut" or anything, and I haven't slept around, but I have been with a fair few guys. It's never something I've been proud of - in fact it's something that used to tear me apart with guilt. About 75% of those "hook ups" were purely part of a desperate need to "prove" myself to be lovable, to not feel alone momentarily, to be desirable. I know what that feels like, and I think a lot of girls who sleep around feel similiar. Not all of course, but many.

Obviously, it's not the way to go about proving these kinda things to yourself - in the long run it only makes you feel worse, aswell as ashamed and guilty. I think we learn these things more as we grow up, and that's why so many younger girls think the way to get to affection is to have engage in intimate activities with every Tom, Dick and Harry.

I don't think it's fair to immediately label a girl as a slut - you just don't know what kinda things are going on in the background.

30-07-2010 08:11PM

sock puppet wrote: »

Why what's wrong with sleeping around? I'm sure most of the girls know what they're getting into.

No, it's grand. It's fine when both people know the score and all that.

You'd call a guy a tool for doing something that would get a girl called a 'whore'. Maybe if he's cheating on his partner or something.
I'm not knocking sex or anything, just saying that most people I know would give guys and girls the same kinds of labels for the same kinds of behaviour.

EuropeanSon · 30-07-2010 08:13PM

Just thought I'd post this cos it made me LOL before, not that I agree with it, but it is funny.

Personally I feel both are twats.

Pygmalion · 30-07-2010 08:16PM

sock puppet wrote: »

So abstinence or monogamy is a prerequisite to having respect for yourself?

In my opinion it depends entirely on the reason for the actions, people having sex outside of any kind of relationship because they find each other attractive and want to is fairly normal nowadays, but there are a lot of people of both genders who seem to do it to "prove" to their friends (or themselves, an even harsher judge in many cases) that they can.
In the latter cases I'd argue that it's not the right circumstances to go about it.

MavisDavis · 03-08-2010 01:40PM

I've started watching this show The Secret Life Of The American Teenager. I know it's a tv show, but it's still freaking me out. Fifteen year olds bítching about being virgins? What the fúck?!

lou91 · 03-08-2010 06:37PM

MavisDavis wrote: »

I've started watching this show The Secret Life Of The American Teenager. I know it's a tv show, but it's still freaking me out. Fifteen year olds bítching about being virgins? What the fúck?!

It's so awful!
Really preachy and doesn't really try to hide it's christian agenda.
It was made by the woman who made 7th Heaven though, so I guess that shouldn't be a surprise.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 03-06-2011 10:15PM

This thread has been abandoned for a while... Nobody in C&H must be getting any these days :pac:

Ginja Ninja · 03-06-2011 10:39PM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

This thread has been abandoned for a while... Nobody in C&H must be getting any these days :pac:

would you prefer one of those thinly veiled;"I got some last night" posts?

here's one;what would class as "sex"?whats the defining line?

Grindylow · 03-06-2011 10:40PM

Ginja Ninja wrote: »

would you prefer one of those thinly veiled;"I got some last night" posts?

here's one;what would class as "sex"?whats the defining line?

When you kiss xxxxxxxx

SarahBeep! · 03-06-2011 10:42PM

Ginja Ninja wrote: »

here's one;what would class as "sex"?whats the defining line?

Sex or sexual contact?

Seren_ · 03-06-2011 10:43PM

Ginja Ninja wrote: »

here's one;what would class as "sex"?whats the defining line?

Ridin'

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 03-06-2011 10:45PM

But does it count if its not...

Never mind.

Pygmalion · 03-06-2011 10:46PM

Ginja Ninja wrote: »

here's one;what would class as "sex"?whats the defining line?

You see Ginja, when a mammy and a daddy love each other really much...

almostnever · 03-06-2011 10:46PM

Up until fairly recently I would only have said that full sexual intercourse "counted" as sex, but I'm more inclined to think it encompasses sexual contact now. The line is quite blurry though, but I think it comes down to what each individual person thinks themselves.

KnifeWRENCH · 04-06-2011 12:29AM

I'd probably only classify it as sex if it was actual intercourse; penetration and whatnot. Anything else I'd classify as "sexual contact" but not sex.

But I'm old fashioned, y'see. In my day, we only had sex after marriage. And 'twas an entirely functional mechanism, so it was. None of this "enjoyment" malarkey that the young'uns get up to these days.

And another thing.....

almostnever · 04-06-2011 12:35AM

KnifeWRENCH wrote: »

I'd probably only classify it as sex if it was actual intercourse; penetration and whatnot. Anything else I'd classify as "sexual contact" but not sex.

But I'm old fashioned, y'see. In my day, we only had sex after marriage. And 'twas an entirely functional mechanism, so it was. None of this "enjoyment" malarkey that the young'uns get up to these days.

And another thing.....

Where does that leave sex between two women, though? It was that question that made me reevaluate how I defined it.

Grindylow · 04-06-2011 12:49AM

almostnever wrote: »

Where does that leave sex between two women, though? It was that question that made me reevaluate how I defined it.

That's called tribadism or something though.

Sex, as described on Wikipedia is "In biology, sex is a process of combining and mixing genetic traits, often resulting in the specialization of organisms into a male or female variety (each known as a sex)."

It's impossible for two women to recreate through tribadism so realistically calling it 'sex' doesn't make sense.

Insect Overlord · 04-06-2011 12:51AM

Can of worms...

Open!

almostnever · 04-06-2011 12:52AM

Noel2k9 wrote: »

That's called tribadism or something though.

Sex, as described on Wikipedia is "In biology, sex is a process of combining and mixing genetic traits, often resulting in the specialization of organisms into a male or female variety (each known as a sex)."

It's impossible for two women to recreate through tribadism so realistically calling it 'sex' doesn't make sense.

I dunno if I'm entirely comfortable with basing the definition of sex on that, though. If two infertile people have sexual intercourse and it is impossible for them to procreate, is that then not sex as a result?

Plus I don't think that sex is entirely about biology, either. It's a lot more complex and multi-faceted.

Tell me if I'm completely misinterpreting that, btw. 2 am, and all that.

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