Ireland highest emigration rate in the EU.

RachPie · 28-07-2010 02:46PM #1

Story by the Irish Times can be found here.

So, more people are leaving Ireland in the EU than anywhere else.
I know that it might just be facts and figures in the article, but there's a definite indication of many people emigrating in everyday life too - not a week or two passes without hearing of someone who's now living in Australia or America, planning to, or are soon to be gone.

Are any of you planning to leave, are overseas, or have gone and come back? Personally, I'm thinking of it once I finish college.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 28-07-2010 02:48PM

Emigrated two years ago, am happy. Have a job, my own company - no real reason to go back (at least not permanantly).

I think the fact that emigration and unemployment are exactly back where they were in the 80s is testaments to FF's **** up of the Celtic Tiger.

Sykk · 28-07-2010 02:48PM

Dey tuk der jbs

Where exactly do you think is better? Besides Canada and South Africa? There's fcuk all jobs in Australia, I was there.. It's as bad as here.. As for the rest of the world, most countries are in ****.

Slunk · 28-07-2010 02:49PM

Yep, Im out of here in October. Meeting up with friends who have already left. Sick of this country

RachPie · 28-07-2010 02:50PM

What is is that you find the worst about this country - is it the Government, the lack of jobs, what?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 28-07-2010 02:51PM

Sykk wrote: »

Dey tuk der jbs

Where exactly do you think is better? Besides Canada and South Africa? There's fcuk all jobs in Australia, I was there.. It's as bad as here.. As for the rest of the world, most countries are in ****.

Most of continental Europe, possibly the US, the UK doesn;t seem to be as badly hit (although by no means a safe bet).... come to think of it just about everywhere bar Greece and Iceland.

SoupyNorman · 28-07-2010 02:52PM

I'm staying, I enjoy the misery.

karlog · 28-07-2010 02:52PM

I know i'm emigrating and its got nothing to do with jobs, just the fact that i don't want to live here anymore.

RachPie · 28-07-2010 02:53PM

karlog wrote: »

I know i'm emigrating and its got nothing to do with jobs, just the fact that i don't want to live here anymore.

Slap me if I'm being annoying, but just wondering what it is about the place that people don't like? Personal reasons, or can you specify?

rossie1977 · 28-07-2010 02:55PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Most of continental Europe, possibly the US, the UK doesn;t seem to be as badly hit (although by no means a safe bet).... come to think of it just about everywhere bar Greece and Iceland.

and spain, portugal, italy. many us states are hovering around 15% unemployment atm, places like california, nevada

Slunk · 28-07-2010 02:57PM

RachPie wrote: »

What is is that you find the worst about this country - is it the Government, the lack of jobs, what?

The government, the lack of jobs, the fact that theres so much crime and so little punishment for it and can only see it getting worse from looking at younger kids in the area. Working every hour I can and then to see people getting hand outs from SW for having five kids and doing **** all work. It annoys me more so than anythnig else. The honest hard working people are getting screwed big time

Sea Sharp · 28-07-2010 02:58PM

Have a potential company start-up holding me back, after that it's cheerio.
There's nothing for me here.

prinz · 28-07-2010 02:59PM

karlog wrote: »

I know i'm emigrating and its got nothing to do with jobs, just the fact that i don't want to live here anymore.

Bingo. Same here. Will be packing up shop and relocating in the next 12-18 months. Slunk gave a fairly accurate picture above.

RachPie · 28-07-2010 03:00PM

I find it amazing that the Government is so blind to this and is doing nothing except stuffing money in their own back pockets to stop this.
People I've known for years as electricians, plasterers, etc and were earning hundreds a week have become unemployed and have moved abroad as a result.
You may say, what can a Government do in a recession? But how can they still afford such huge salaries and bonusses, etc?!
It's madness.

easyeason3 · 28-07-2010 03:05PM

RachPie wrote: »

I find it amazing that the Government is so blind to this and is doing nothing except stuffing money in their own back pockets to stop this.
People I've known for years as electricians, plasterers, etc and were earning hundreds a week have become unemployed and have moved abroad as a result.
You may say, what can a Government do in a recession? But how can they still afford such huge salaries and bonusses, etc?!
It's madness.

Welcome to reality Fianna Fail style.

Andrew33 · 28-07-2010 03:05PM

Slunk wrote: »

The government, the lack of jobs, the fact that theres so much crime and so little punishment for it and can only see it getting worse from looking at younger kids in the area. Working every hour I can and then to see people getting hand outs from SW for having five kids and doing **** all work. It annoys me more so than anythnig else. The honest hard working people are getting screwed big time

Completely with you on that, don't forget the slow burning ball of anger in the pit of your stomach and the feeling of helplessness.

karlog · 28-07-2010 03:06PM

RachPie wrote: »

Slap me if I'm being annoying, but just wondering what it is about the place that people don't like? Personal reasons, or can you specify?

There's many things and they all add up. Heres a few:

The weather obviously although this summer's been good.
Everything or mostly the majority of things are a rip-off.
Junkie/Scummers around Dublin city is it just me or are they getting worse.
Sick of hearing news of some scumbag getting a slap on the wrist for crimes that would put you prison for life in other countries, the laws here are a joke.

Don't know where i'm moving to but as long as it's not here i'm happy.

ejmaztec · 28-07-2010 03:08PM

RachPie wrote: »

What is is that you find the worst about this country - is it the Government, the lack of jobs, what?

If it weren't for the government (this one and all of the previous governments), there would probably be loads of jobs.

If the sheep ever stopped voting in lazy useless fuckers, we might get somewhere.

Sykk · 28-07-2010 03:12PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Most of continental Europe, possibly the US, the UK doesn;t seem to be as badly hit (although by no means a safe bet).... come to think of it just about everywhere bar Greece and Iceland.

I don't know where you're getting your stats from... But they seem way off.

prinz · 28-07-2010 03:14PM

RachPie wrote: »

People I've known for years as electricians, plasterers, etc and were earning hundreds a week have become unemployed and have moved abroad as a result.

That was a major part of the problem tbh. Made their bed, now let them lie in it. No pity tbh. Didn't think twice about ripping people off while the going was good.

xw2lj9uspm1eyh · 28-07-2010 03:18PM

I know a few people gone abroad (mostly guys).Most of them have a trade and couldn't get work here.I have a mate gone to Australia to "live the dream" .He wanted to work in the pharmaceutical side of things and thought he would have a better chance in Oz for some reason .

He's currently working as a sheep farmer 3 hrs away from civilization no phone no net.He could of applied for a job here in Tesco or something if he wanted to but that was beneath him.He hates it but feel like a failure if he was to come home early.It's true what they say the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

mecanoman · 28-07-2010 03:21PM

SoupyNorman wrote: »

I'm staying, I enjoy the misery.

Can i keep you company!. I'm personally waiting for the "Jobs from Europe"

that were on a few " Vote Yes" Nice Ref posters a while back. Can't wait!

coffeelover · 28-07-2010 03:21PM

I still have at least 6 years before i finish college. So hopefully things will be better by then. But i'd prefer to emigrate.. so sick of this country

seannash · 28-07-2010 03:24PM

mendusa wrote: »

I know a few people gone abroad (mostly guys).Most of them have a trade and couldn't get work here.I have a mate gone to Australia to "live the dream" .He wanted to work in the pharmaceutical side of things and thought he would have a better chance in Oz for some reason .

He's currently working as a sheep farmer 3 hrs away from civilization no phone no net.He could of applied for a job here in Tesco or something if he wanted to but that was beneath him.He hates it but feel like a failure if he was to come home early.It's true what they say the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

did you ever consider that he is doing rural work so that he can recieve his second year visa?any person who goes over there does this in order to expend there stay and also save a bit of money for traveling

also for the people who says there no jobs in oz thats simply false.theres plenty of jobs over there if your repared to work.i was hiring for a company over there and tried to give jobs to as many irish as i can.

most of them would last a day as they felt the work was beneath them or not well paid enough.anybody i know who has a good work ethic that has gone over there has found work pretty easily

thisguy · 28-07-2010 03:32PM

RachPie wrote: »

What is is that you find the worst about this country - is it the Government, the lack of jobs, what?

the moaning that goes on about how bad everything here is, is what annoys me about this country the most! Things are bad in a lot of countries right now, but I dont think anyone can moan (and do nothing about it) quite like the Irish. (im aware im moaning about people moaning by the way:))

Nodin · 28-07-2010 03:33PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Emigrated two years ago, am happy. Have a job, my own company - no real reason to go back (at least not permanantly).

I think the fact that emigration and unemployment are exactly back where they were in the 80s is testaments to FF's **** up of the Celtic Tiger.

...though in fairness it should be pointed out that as the tiger was a bubble, it was actually the fuck up....or so I understand it anyway.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 28-07-2010 03:34PM

Sykk wrote: »

I don't know where you're getting your stats from... But they seem way off.

Most Europena countries came out of recession a lot quicker than Ireland has, with most on the road to recovery. Mostly because they didn't go nuts and let their financial giants do what they wanted.

RachPie wrote: »

I find it amazing that the Government is so blind to this and is doing nothing except stuffing money in their own back pockets to stop this.
People I've known for years as electricians, plasterers, etc and were earning hundreds a week have become unemployed and have moved abroad as a result.
You may say, what can a Government do in a recession? But how can they still afford such huge salaries and bonusses, etc?!
It's madness.

You really think the government gives a ****...?

mike65 · 28-07-2010 03:35PM

Highest emigration and highest birth-rate...hmmm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 28-07-2010 03:37PM

Nodin wrote: »

...though in fairness it should be pointed out that as the tiger was a bubble, it was actually the fuck up....or so I understand it anyway.

Not nessecarily. They first few years (up until about 2001/2002) were genuinely progressive. Foreign corporations came here and set up and brought with them investment and employment. It was after that that the bubble started, mainly due to dodgy rezoning practices and Charlie McCreevey spedning ****loads of money we technically didn't have and letting finanical institutsions (eg Anglo Irish) do what they liked. This was the ****-up.

Nodin · 28-07-2010 03:38PM

If theres such a high birth rate, how are the muslim hordes supposed to take over, thats what I want to know...

caseyann · 28-07-2010 03:38PM

Yep leaving for Aussie lands :cool: i cant wait

Ireland highest emigration rate in the EU.

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