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Is the Limerick tunnell free?

  • 27-07-2010 09:10AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭


    Morning Everyone,

    Is it true that the new Limerick tunnel is free for the first month?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭phill106


    News to me. 1.80 for car as far as i know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Roadend


    I heard this this morning, not sure if its true or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭decskelligs


    When Direct route opened the Fermoy bypass the first few weeks were for free so maybe they will leave the tunnel free foir a few weeks as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    Morning Everyone,

    Is it true that the new Limerick tunnel is free for the first month?

    you think it is free?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Captain Average


    There is no monthly charge on the tags until the end of 2010. This is what you have probably mistaken as "free"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭RVN10


    Definetly not free , friend of mine working in it says that it was a once off in Cork when they first opened one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭phill106


    There is no monthly charge on the tags until the end of 2010. This is what you have probably mistaken as "free"

    Can you elaborate on this? If i buy a monthly tag on this, it will be free? OR will i have to pay 6 months of tolls in january?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Captain Average


    phill106 wrote: »
    Can you elaborate on this? If i buy a monthly tag on this, it will be free? OR will i have to pay 6 months of tolls in january?

    There is a monthly charge for using the tags, on top of the actual cost of the toll. This charge is not being implemented until January 2011.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Morning Everyone,

    Is it true that the new Limerick tunnel is free for the first month?

    Well the People of Cork had the cop on and common sense to oppose the proposed tolling of the Jack Lynch Tunnel and that's been free for the last 132 Months going back over a Decade to 1999.

    - It would be pretty mean spirited not to give 30 days free in this case especially since a massive Sum of money was syphoned off to fund it via the ridiculous notion of Public funding being used to partially fund investment opportunities of the Wealthy Elite - AKA Public Private Partnership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭NCG


    Used it yesterday and it definitely is not free! The e-toll lanes weren't open either. As above though there is no admin fee on the e-toll account for 2010, and the first 4,000 tags are given free (ie you don't have to buy or rent the tags). Now if only we could use them.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 918 ✭✭✭Agent_99


    NCG wrote: »
    Used it yesterday and it definitely is not free! The e-toll lanes weren't open either. As above though there is no admin fee on the e-toll account for 2010, and the first 4,000 tags are given free (ie you don't have to buy or rent the tags). Now if only we could use them.....

    Etoll lanes are open it's just the express lane that is closed, I used my Tolltag for two days on the manned toll booths without issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Raiser wrote: »
    Well the People of Cork had the cop on and common sense to oppose the proposed tolling of the Jack Lynch Tunnel and that's been free for the last 132 Months going back over a Decade to 1999.

    - It would be pretty mean spirited not to give 30 days free in this case especially since a massive Sum of money was syphoned off to fund it via the ridiculous notion of Public funding being used to partially fund investment opportunities of the Wealthy Elite - AKA Public Private Partnership.

    The M25, which includes the Jack Lynch Tunnel is tolled at Fermoy, the M7/M18 is tolled at Clonmacken and Cratloe (depending on which route you take). No difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    ninty9er wrote: »
    The M25, which includes the Jack Lynch Tunnel is tolled at Fermoy, the M7/M18 is tolled at Clonmacken and Cratloe (depending on which route you take). No difference.

    Huge difference.

    Someone who had to buy on one side of Cork and works on the other can commute, while long-distance drivers pay.

    There's no argument with tolls on that basis, as they knock an hour or so off long journeys.

    Someone living in Limerick and working in Shannon, on the other hand......

    If it were tolled just after Shannon or Ennis, so that people travelling the western equivalent of Dublin to Cork had to pay, there would be few complaints.

    Mind you, as I've said before, I wouldn't particularly complain if it was a €1 charge; it still amounts to €500 a year for commuters, but at least it would be stomach-able.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭Tech3


    ninty9er wrote: »
    The M25, which includes the Jack Lynch Tunnel is tolled at Fermoy, the M7/M18 is tolled at Clonmacken and Cratloe (depending on which route you take). No difference.

    M25? No such road in the republic. Fermoy toll is on the M8.
    Raiser wrote:
    Well the People of Cork had the cop on and common sense to oppose the proposed tolling of the Jack Lynch Tunnel and that's been free for the last 132 Months going back over a Decade to 1999.

    - It would be pretty mean spirited not to give 30 days free in this case especially since a massive Sum of money was syphoned off to fund it via the ridiculous notion of Public funding being used to partially fund investment opportunities of the Wealthy Elite - AKA Public Private Partnership.

    What cop on? The PPP process only started in the republic during 2002 so they had nothing to oppose. If the people of Limerick opposed private funding for the Limerick tunnel then we would have no bypass of the city today. Simple fact is that the government could not afford every scheme in the country with taxpayers money so some schemes had to put though the PPP process. Better to have the infrastructure with tolls than no infrastructure at all.

    Also lol at the thread title!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Raiser


    tech2 wrote: »
    What cop on? The PPP process only started in the republic during 2002 so they had nothing to oppose.

    I'm almost certain that the Jack Lynch Tunnel was originally supposed to be tolled from the outset.

    Nobody has ever paid a penny to go through it in ~11 years because of the Public indignation and uproar the mere idea of tolling it generated.

    - This goes back to when People had common sense and principles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    Raiser wrote: »
    I'm almost certain that the Jack Lynch Tunnel was originally supposed to be tolled from the outset.

    Nobody has ever paid a penny to go through it in ~11 years because of the Public indignation and uproar the mere idea of tolling it generated.

    - This goes back to when People had common sense and principles.

    Was the Jack Lynch tunnel also partly privately funded?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    I belive the Jack Lynch tunnel was built publically but the reason it was not tolled was the fact that you could not go around it easily so by tolling it, it would be "mean".

    Different times. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Was the Jack Lynch tunnel also partly privately funded?

    I don't care if it was excavated by Sherpa's using Spoons and paid for by Colombian Drug Lords.

    - My sole point was that a toll was proposed and said notion was rubbished, before being successfully buried.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    Raiser wrote: »
    I don't care if it was excavated by Sherpa's using Spoons and paid for by Colombian Drug Lords.

    - My sole point was that a toll was proposed and said notion was rubbished, before being successfully buried.

    I'll ask again,was the Jack Lynch tunnel also partly privately funded?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Raiser


    I'll ask again,was the Jack Lynch tunnel also partly privately funded?

    :)

    Ask away.

    Incidentally, an open question, what is the ratio of Public : Private funding in The Limerick Tunnel?

    - It would be hilarious if it turned out to be something like ~80% Public Revenue with a small lump sum thrown in by the Private Investors as they seek to recoup their initial investment a great many times over.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    tech2 wrote: »
    M25? No such road in the republic. Fermoy toll is on the M8.
    My apologies. I do agree that €1.21 for tag or €1.30 for cash would be a better price (considering tolls are VAT chargeable since the middle of this year thanks to a European driective enforcement). They've got 31 years to make their money back, surely it's enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    Raiser wrote: »
    :)

    Ask away.

    Incidentally, an open question, what is the ratio of Public : Private funding in The Limerick Tunnel?

    - It would be hilarious if it turned out to be something like ~80% Public Revenue with a small lump sum thrown in by the Private Investors as they seek to recoup their initial investment a great many times over.

    I'm embarassed for you and your nonsensical ramblings, I really am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Raiser


    I'm embarassed for you and your nonsensical ramblings, I really am.

    I'll embarrass myself thanks very much !!!!

    - Seriously though lets not pretend that everyone is delighted about the method employed in putting that Tunnel there and the Toll applied which will no doubt be steadily increased as time goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Tolls. FFS

    In other countries they are fleeced by tolls. I drove 800kms in France and it costs me €54+. Here 800kms would cost €7.20.

    Limerick to Dublin and back twice.

    The Government cannot afford to build the infrastructure so the PPP were formed. On the continent there were no PPP's just Ps(Private companies) who built all the good roads and charge a premium.

    We are being given good roads and have to pay €1.80 to get from Limerick to Dublin on an entire Motorway(by the end of October).

    €1.80 to use a Toll under the Shannon. Big Whoop. You use it twice a day and think it will cost a lot at the end of the year. You have a choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,338 ✭✭✭the drifter


    Berty wrote: »
    Tolls. FFS

    In other countries they are fleeced by tolls. I drove 800kms in France and it costs me €54+. Here 800kms would cost €7.20.

    Limerick to Dublin and back twice.

    The Government cannot afford to build the infrastructure so the PPP were formed. On the continent there were no PPP's just Ps(Private companies) who built all the good roads and charge a premium.

    We are being given good roads and have to pay €1.80 to get from Limerick to Dublin on an entire Motorway(by the end of October).

    €1.80 to use a Toll under the Shannon. Big Whoop. You use it twice a day and think it will cost a lot at the end of the year. You have a choice.


    I second this...i drove for 2 hours in spain and it cost me 26 euro in tolls...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Berty I'm going to put so many green lines on that stretch of Road.......

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Berty wrote: »
    Tolls. FFS

    In other countries they are fleeced by tolls. I drove 800kms in France and it costs me €54+. Here 800kms would cost €7.20.

    Limerick to Dublin and back twice.

    The Government cannot afford to build the infrastructure so the PPP were formed. On the continent there were no PPP's just Ps(Private companies) who built all the good roads and charge a premium.

    We are being given good roads and have to pay €1.80 to get from Limerick to Dublin on an entire Motorway(by the end of October).

    €1.80 to use a Toll under the Shannon. Big Whoop. You use it twice a day and think it will cost a lot at the end of the year. You have a choice.




    It will be motorway the whole way from Limerick to where the current motorway entering Dublin ends?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Raiser wrote: »
    Berty I'm going to put so many green lines on that stretch of Road.......

    :p

    Its okay because they said the lines will fade away when it rains as it was unseasonally sunny at the time................................

    It has rained hasn't it.....................................still green paint. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Kess73 wrote: »
    It will be motorway the whole way from Limerick to where the current motorway entering Dublin ends?

    Oh sorry actually. It ends at Naas at begins again at the M50 but at least it is a good DC so you can overtake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Berty wrote: »
    Oh sorry actually. It ends at Naas at begins again at the M50 but at least it is a good DC so you can overtake.


    The Naas bit was what I meant by the current one ending. Did not realise that the motorway would go from there the whole way to Limerick.


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