New Wheels

rob1891 wrote: »

Mary has measured everything on here bike including her 7850 C24 CLs@1436g(no skewers)

Excellent, they're porky too. So it's C24s: light rim, solid hubs. Ardennes: heavy wide rim, weenie hubs.

What are the choices for sub-1400g alloy clinchers?

wheelsmith.co.uk has some interesting handbuilts on the gallery page:

IRD Cadence and VSR rims on Extralite hubs ~1250g
IRD Cadence / VSR / Tune Mig70/Mag180 Black ~1300g
IRD/Extralite rear laced 2x/1x. Stiff and reliable at 1260g!

Also on the subject of fancy wheels, I was looking at various deep section carbon tubular options and have come across a few with internal nipples. WTF? If your wheel needs truing, you have to unglue the tub! (unless I've misunderstood).

Anyway...

Every time I look at fancy wheels I go through the same process:

- Go light...get shallow section alloy clinchers.
- Oh, don't forget the aero....better get deep section carbon clinchers.
- Gaah, braking in the rain/Alpine descending blowouts...better get alloy clinchers with a deep section carbon fairing.
- Whoa, too heavy....how about some nice Gigantex tubs for racing?
- Tubs are too much hard work.....just buy some Ksyriums like everyone else.
- Repeat ad inifinitum.

Know how ya feel Lumen, I could have bought 10 fecking sets of Lightweights with the amount of time I lost researching what wheels to buy :rolleyes:

The Campag Shamals came in at 1448g, so pretty good for the money in hindsight.

Lumen wrote:

What are the choices for sub-1400g alloy clinchers?

I've a pair of these on the way from bikesoul.com, it is a small operation out of Singapore. Weights are supposed to be accurate, 1330g with no tape/skewers.

Waiting time is long though, about 7 weeks for me. Unfortunately I won't be around to try them out for another month or two so I can't say what I think of them yet, but they get positive reviews on the various forums and the guy who mans their email is easy to deal with.

Jaysus, those Fulcrum Zeros are crazy money especially when the Campag equivalent are only €644

Are you calling me fat?

jdt101 wrote: »

May I suggest lose a few grams from the bike engine....

Raam wrote: »

I have these: Mavic Ksyrium SL
€730 the pair.
Well worth it.

Going to buy these soon. Are the durable enough for Irish roads?

(Guessing by Rob's comment they are?)

Having a good look at the Ksyrium SL wheels before pulling the trigger;


Ksyrium SL @ €525 , weighing 1550g.

and, then looked at the others in the range...

Ksyrium Elite @ €785 , weighing 1485g.


Going by Mavic's website the only difference is the spokes! (Maybe the hubs?).

So basically is a 65g difference the reason for the €260? I was thinking they could be stiffer or more aero but apparently they're the same rims... Am I missing something?!



EDIT:
Found more information here:

(1) The color. For 2004 it continues to use black rims and spokes. (2) The spokes. Rather than employing Zircal aluminum spokes, the Elite uses ultra-bladed stainless steel spokes. (3) The rims. While the Elite rim is identical to the SL rim in construction, it doesn't have the same machined sections in between the spoke nipples. (4) The front hub. Rather than making the change to a front composite hub, it continues to have an aluminum shell.

Haha, yea I probably will end up getting the SL's. Just wondering why the price difference! Gonna keep looking for a while, need to justify it before account takes the hit (silence the guily etc. etc.)! A decent set of skewers?

Brilliant, that works for me. Just weighted the current skewers 129g's and new ones... 70grams... 59grams for €42. Bargain! Add to basket.

On an aside skipping lunch&dinner could save me a fiver tomorrow and about fifty on bike bits! (weight by weight!!!).

AstraMonti wrote: »

Nope, don't go for those, go for these. You saved 30grams more

Wow, that's light. Thanks for that. Are they reliable? Like that's way lighter than the other ones available.

Btw any opinion on these wheels? They seem light, cheap, so something can't be right.

Ah, I'll give those a miss. eBay, ain't somewhere I want to go. Reliability and track record are important I think for wheels.

I also have a pair of KCNC. Going nicely, and look neat

What do you want them for? Racing? Sportives? Training?

Well, if 800 is your budget there are better wheels to buy for training and sportives:

Easton EA 90 SL or SLX depending on your weight.
Shimano Dura Ace 7850 CL24
Reynolds Solitude
Mavic Ksyrium SL

The carbones are heavy and you won't really benefit or need the aerodynamic profile on a sportive. Most of them tend to be hilly rather than fast (tour of louth is the only exception I have been on).

As for the others, a lot of lightweight wheels save weight by having less material on the rim. Braking surfaces aren't as thick as other wheels so if you do buy some, keep them for sportives and have a cheap pair of wheels for the rest of the year (and the bad weather, give the bearings a rest).

I have the Easton EA 90 SL, Mavic Cosmic Carbones, Zipp 404 tubs. The latter two race only. You feel the weight of the Cosmics up hills and the benefit is only really of use racing.

I would get the Shimano Dura Ace 7850 CL24.

My 2c.

AstraMonti wrote: »

Nope, don't go for those, go for these. You saved 30grams more

Btw any opinion on these wheels? They seem light, cheap, so something can't be right.

I'v bought a lot of stuff from this guy and it is always top quality with no problems so I wouldn't worry about the quality, more how they ride but they look fine.

I like the white spokes although I just got new wheels so can't get any more for a while!