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  • #32
    SouthDublinMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭SouthDublinMan


    NothingMan wrote: »
    OP, I know from your other thread regarding cars that you obviously do have money to spend, however as the advice given has said, just because you have 10k doesn't mean you should spend it.

    Most beginners looking for a DSLR (professional looking camera) like the Canon 450D or the new 550D (Has HD movie ability). They generally come with a kit lens 18-55mm IS(Image stabilization) and then you can get a zoom lens for as little as €250 for the 55-250mm IS. I have this setup and there is plenty of kit there to take excellent photos. All together in a shop should cost you less than €1200 including a good bag and tripod.

    You could jump right in and get a 5D and L series lenses (Professional equipment) but just because you can afford it doesn't mean you should. You'll learn a LOT on the cheaper kit and the pro camera will just have more buttons and features that will just get in your way until you grasp the finer points of aperture, exposure, ISO and metering.

    If you really want to spend the rest of the 10K then spend it traveling to nice places to use your new camera.

    Best of luck.

    What car was I talking about, I have no recollection of posting about cars, hope I was not sleep posting again....... Using the PC while asleep almost ruined my marrige last year!


  • #33
    Paulw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,270 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    If you want to do sports - Canon 1D MkIV and a 400mm f/2.8 lens. That might be closer to €15k than €10k.


  • #34
    SouthDublinMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭SouthDublinMan


    dakar wrote: »
    Well since you're apparently in the position to set yourself up with some serious kit, it might help if you help us point you in the right direction by letting us know what you are interested in photographing.

    The recommendations for landscape photography will be different from sports, portraiture etc. Although for 10K, you can probably cover pretty much all the bases :)

    mmmmm good point, maybe a bit of sport, some hotties of course and maybe some kinda street stuff out and about in the City and when I go to Banus for the summer!

    No to landscapes as Jimmy Rabbite might say thats photographic *****ng


  • #35
    SouthDublinMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭SouthDublinMan


    Paulw wrote: »
    If you want to do sports - Canon 1D MkIV and a 400mm f/2.8 lens. That might be closer to €15k than €10k.

    My mate who used to play for Blackrock in the AIL said that most of the good photographers use Nikon!


  • #36
    Paulw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,270 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    SouthDublinMan wrote: »
    My mate who used to play for Blackrock in the AIL said that most of the good photographers use Nikon!

    The official provider of images to the IRFU, Munster Rugby and Leinster Rugby use Canon.

    But, you could go for a Nikon D3 and a 400mm lens either way.


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  • #37
    charybdis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭charybdis


    DaireQuinlan wrote: »
    Obviously you want to spend your money on something that is not only expensive, but which also LOOKS expensive, and will attract admiring glances from women and envious ones from men. As a bonus, it also takes fine photographs !

    What you want is a Leica. Specifically a ..

    Leica M9
    Leica 50mm Summicron

    And that's pretty much it really. For your €10000 you might be also able to buy some accessories, a lens hood for €160 or so for example.

    You can't get an M9 and a 50mm Noctilux for ten grand, maybe fifteen grand, but you could probably swing the Summilux for ten.

    Anyway:

    Pentax 645D - €8,000
    Pentax 55mm f/2.8 - €1,000
    Gitzo Carbon Fiber tripod - €500
    Acratech Ultimate ballhead - €200
    Billingham Bag - €300

    Total - €10,000

    In all honesty though, spending thousands of Euro on your first serious camera would be a huge mistake. One to two thousand Euro should be enough to buy a very nice beginners set up, and it doesn't sound like you'd have much trouble spending more money whey you're ready to upgrade.

    You need to consider the kind of photographs you want to take. For general photography you could do a lot worse than a Nikon D90 that costs around €700 and a 35mm f/1.8 lens that costs around €200. If you want to start shooting sports/wildlife/portraiture, you can add a 70-200mm f/2.8 for an additional €2100.

    Canon have very similar cameras and lenses for more-or-less the same amount of money, it'd be hard to go wrong with a setup like the one I've suggested.


  • #38
    dakar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭dakar


    charybdis wrote: »
    In all honesty though, spending thousands of Euro on your first serious camera would be a huge mistake. One to two thousand Euro should be enough to buy a very nice beginners set up, and it doesn't sound like you'd have much trouble spending more money whey you're ready to upgrade.

    You need to consider the kind of photographs you want to take. For general photography you could do a lot worse than a Nikon D90 that costs around €700 and a 35mm f/1.8 lens that costs around €200. If you want to start shooting sports/wildlife/portraiture, you can add a 70-200mm f/2.8 for an additional €2100.

    Canon have very similar cameras and lenses for more-or-less the same amount of money, it'd be hard to go wrong with a setup like the one I've suggested.

    ^ what Charybdis said, saved me some typing :)


  • #39
    SouthDublinMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭SouthDublinMan


    Ok here is where I am at the min!

    Nikon D700 with a Battery Grip thingy!
    Nikkor 14-24mm F2.8 AF-S G
    Nikkor 70-200mm F2.8 AF-S G VRII
    Nikkor 50mm F1.8 AF-D


    Thats should be good for a start, then get a flash later if you recomend that!


  • #40
    charybdis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭charybdis


    SouthDublinMan wrote: »
    Ok here is where I am at the min!

    Nikon D700 with a Battery Grip thingy!
    Nikkor 14-24mm F2.8 AF-S G
    Nikkor 70-200mm F2.8 AF-S G VRII
    Nikkor 50mm F1.8 AF-D


    Thats should be good for a start, then get a flash later if you recomend that!

    That would be an extremely nice setup, although if you're going to spend that kind of money you should probably go for the Nikon 50mm f/1.4 AF-S instead of the f/1.8 AF-D. You could add a Nikon SB900 or two if you're looking for a flash.


  • #41
    SouthDublinMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭SouthDublinMan


    charybdis wrote: »
    That would be an extremely nice setup, although if you're going to spend that kind of money you should probably go for the Nikon 50mm f/1.4 AF-S. You could add a Nikon SB900 or two if you're looking for a flash.


    Will look in to the 1.4 50mm, shallower field of focus right!

    Why would I need two flashes if I only have one camera!


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  • #42
    Captain Flaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    Roysh SouthDublinMan,

    If you're looking to drop some serious sponds I toshally recommend the Canon 5DMarkII yeah? It's fan-focking-tastic, it does HD video (for the spare hi-def TV in the guest room) and has a 21MP sensor (like I GIVE a fock?) Make sure you get a big fock-off lens for it or you'll have a tote MARE trying to get some quality pics.

    Obviously for such a serious bit of kit you want something stylish that'll A) keep your gear safe when some Howiya in a Starlet rear-ends the Lexus and B) keep the Skobies, Northsiders and the cleaners in Abrakebabra away. Crumpler bags are apparently, like, THE accessory to have, this BESS student I scored in Kieley's said she had the TOTAL hots for some Snapper who had one of those bags.

    If you're planning on taking a few photos, you'll probably need a memory card, though the size toshally depends on how many topless hotties you're looking to scope next time you're at the gaff in Biarritz. If you're just looking for something to sling across your pecs while you're on a J1er, don't focking bother with one of those.

    Good luck dude, if you're throwing that many sheckells at it you're bound to actually get some serious photos.


  • #43
    jpb1974
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    I'd seriously consider a Nikon Jacket, Nikon Baseball Hat and some Nikon Deck Shoes to go with the gear too.


  • #44
    SouthDublinMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭SouthDublinMan


    Captain Flaps wrote: »
    Roysh SouthDublinMan,

    If you're looking to drop some serious sponds I toshally recommend the Canon 5DMarkII yeah? It's fan-focking-tastic, it does HD video (for the spare hi-def TV in the guest room) and has a 21MP sensor (like I GIVE a fock?) Make sure you get a big fock-off lens for it or you'll have a tote MARE trying to get some quality pics.

    Obviously for such a serious bit of kit you want something stylish that'll A) keep your gear safe when some Howiya in a Starlet rear-ends the Lexus and B) keep the Skobies, Northsiders and the cleaners in Abrakebabra away. Crumpler bags are apparently, like, THE accessory to have, this BESS student I scored in Kieley's said she had the TOTAL hots for some Snapper who had one of those bags.

    If you're planning on taking a few photos, you'll probably need a memory card, though the size toshally depends on how many topless hotties you're looking to scope next time you're at the gaff in Biarritz. If you're just looking for something to sling across your pecs while you're on a J1er, don't focking bother with one of those.

    Good luck dude, if you're throwing that many sheckells at it you're bound to actually get some serious photos.


    looks like you have me in a Pigeon Hole there Captain Flaps!

    Chip on the shoulder maybe!

    Anyway if you had of being paying attention you would have deduced that the Gaf is in Banus not Biarritz, and who goes on a J1er at 33!


  • #45
    charybdis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭charybdis


    SouthDublinMan wrote: »
    Will look in to the 1.4 50mm, shallower field of focus right!

    Why would I need two flashes if I only have one camera!

    You can wirelessly control multiple flashes, so you can have them set up around what you're shooting or in the room you're shooting in so that you have greater control over the light. No matter how expensive the camera or flash, on-camera head-on flash usually looks pretty awful and unflattering so you'd probably want to avoid using flash in this way.


  • #46
    mrboswell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭mrboswell


    SouthDublinMan wrote: »
    ...and who goes on a J1er at 33!

    Someone with 10K?

    Seriously though, most people in here would love to have had 10K to start off with and unless its just me, it does seem a little like you are not taking it seriously.

    Read reviews around the advice people have given to get more info and some people might even be prepared to let you try stuff out before you buy


  • #47
    sineadw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,319 ✭✭✭sineadw


    I have a gaf in Biarritz :D

    You should also budget in the cost of a website.


  • #48
    SouthDublinMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭SouthDublinMan


    sineadw wrote: »
    I have a gaf in Biarritz :D

    You should also budget in the cost of a website.

    Why would I need a website?


  • #49
    NothingMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    SouthDublinMan wrote: »
    What car was I talking about, I have no recollection of posting about cars, hope I was not sleep posting again....... Using the PC while asleep almost ruined my marrige last year!


    Apologies, mistaken identity.


  • #50
    dakar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭dakar


    SouthDublinMan wrote: »
    Ok here is where I am at the min!

    Nikon D700 with a Battery Grip thingy!
    Nikkor 14-24mm F2.8 AF-S G
    Nikkor 70-200mm F2.8 AF-S G VRII
    Nikkor 50mm F1.8 AF-D


    Thats should be good for a start, then get a flash later if you recomend that!

    Sounds excellent, the Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 is a superb lens and fills the pretty obvious gap in the above lineup. I'd be inclined to go for it before the 14-24 tbh, as a day to day lens, since you're not into landscapes.


  • #51
    Morrisseeee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    Well well...........what to do, what to do............rich man wants it all, but hasn't a clue how to use it, and wants advice from us experienced users (who haven't more money than sense) ?!?! :eek :p Seriously tho, and if you are serious, have a little bit of common sense in these recessionary times and structure your thread in a more mature manner.


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  • #52
    gloobag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭gloobag


    OP, as you would be a complete beginner, I have to tell you that all the equipment you're thinking of buying isn't aimed at you. It's marketed towards people who actually make their living from photography or experienced enthusiasts.

    If you buy all this equipment, you will not suddenly start taking amazing photographs/hanging out with models/earning sh!t loads of money.

    My advice to you , is to buy yourself an entry level DSLR for about €500 and save the rest of the €10K. If you decide in a years time that this is what you want to do with your life, go nuts and spend all your money, but forking out that amount of money just because you saw some guy with a shiny gadget and now you want it too is very immature.


  • #53
    swingking
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭swingking


    SouthDublinMan wrote: »
    No to landscapes as Jimmy Rabbite might say thats photographic *****ng

    Coming out with comments like that is only adding fuel to the fire.


  • #54
    dakar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭dakar


    There's plenty of sensible advice given in the thread about getting a good quality entry or mid-level DSLR. In the event that it's not a wind up and the man really wants to spend a shedload of cash, well, it's his money.

    In the event it is a wind up, well, I've enjoyed mentally spending his imaginary 10K, so no harm, no foul............ ;)


  • #55
    the_monkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    SouthDublinMan wrote: »
    looks like you have me in a Pigeon Hole there Captain Flaps!

    Chip on the shoulder maybe!

    Anyway if you had of being paying attention you would have deduced that the Gaf is in Banus not Biarritz, and who goes on a J1er at 33!


    Banus ?

    www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=banus

    Go ahead spend all that $$$ , you won't have a clue how to use it.


  • #56
    mrboswell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭mrboswell


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Banus ?

    www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=banus

    Go ahead spend all that $$$ , you won't have a clue how to use it.

    You'll find the instruction manual in Banus ;)


  • #57
    i.need.a.job
    Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭i.need.a.job


    SouthDublinMan wrote: »
    Camera, Lens, Bag, Flash Tripod!

    Would I get much for under 10K

    how abou you get a different hobby and give me the 10k, im broke :D


  • #58
    charybdis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭charybdis


    I'm fairly surprised at the responses this thread has generated. There have been plenty of threads from first-time posters asking what camera they should buy and people have rushed to their defence when I said something as meagre as suggesting they read the sticky.

    Could you imagine someone with the name of a rural area in their username asking a similar question and being subjected to a mock-accented barely-satirical response casting them as a stereotypical ignorant country-man? Or someone with the name of a disadvantaged area in their username asking a similar question and being subjected to sniping comments? If it did happen, I'm sure the mods would intervene quicksharp, or at least a rabble would be roused for their defence.

    Even if he's a troll, as has been suggested, you're only feeding him by reacting in this way.


  • #59
    sineadw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,319 ✭✭✭sineadw


    charybdis wrote: »
    Could you imagine someone with the name of a rural area in their username asking a similar question and being subjected to a mock-accented barely-satirical response casting them as a stereotypical ignorant country-man? Or someone with the name of a disadvantaged area in their username asking a similar question and being subjected to sniping comments? If it did happen, I'm sure the mods would intervene quicksharp, or at least a rabble would be roused for their defence.

    I think now in fairness the response has been more about someone spotting a guy in Marlay park with a camera and deciding to spend ten grand on a whim and less about a username. I hadn't even noticed it..


  • #60
    sprinkles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭sprinkles


    Seen as you really don't know what you want other than to spend 10k on something that takes photos of hotties my advice would be to go into your nearest Camera shop and tell them you have 10k to spend. They'll help you find a home for it.

    Just don't mention that any form of photography is ****, they might stick the boot in if you strike a nerve!!


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  • #61
    Arciphel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Arciphel


    SouthDublinMan, this is the guy you should be getting purchasing tips off of...

    ken_rockwell.jpg


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