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SouthDublinMan · 23-05-2010 04:43PM #1

Hi

Was just in Marlay Park and saw a guy with a camera and I came to the conclusion that I want one, what should I get, I hear Canon and Nikon are the best, dont really want to spend any more than 10k to start with until I get used to it! I suppose I will need to upgrade my Comp aswell, so maybe 15k

Suggestions please!

unamused · 23-05-2010 04:45PM

is that 10,000 on a camera? more money than sense if you ask me even a nikon doesnt cost that much

SouthDublinMan · 23-05-2010 04:46PM

Camera, Lens, Bag, Flash Tripod!

Would I get much for under 10K

unamused · 23-05-2010 04:51PM

http://www.nikon.com/

try site above but really 10k unless your going to be a professional that is excessive

mrboswell · 23-05-2010 04:53PM

SouthDublinMan wrote: »

Camera, Lens, Bag, Flash Tripod!

Would I get much for under 10K

2K would get you a very decent kit but you could easily spend way more or way less.

Don't spend too long deciding - especially while the weather is good!. Nikon or Canon are good bets but you can't rule out others. They do provide the best options for 2nd hand gear though.

Visit your local camera shop and get you hands on the goodies so to speak!

joeKel73 · 23-05-2010 04:54PM

SouthDublinMan wrote: »

Camera, Lens, Bag, Flash Tripod!

Would I get much for under 10K

Not really, but you seem like a nice guy so I'll sell you all my gear for €9,999. I'm feeling generous today.

unamused · 23-05-2010 05:03PM

foto joe wrote: »

Not really, but you seem like a nice guy so I'll sell you all my gear for €9,999. I'm feeling generous today.

hey not fair i was just going through all my stuff and could do a better deal hows €9,998 sound

Promac · 23-05-2010 05:12PM

I don't know what the nikon equivalent is so I'll suggest buying a 5D Mark II (it's a good camera and isn't cheap but is worth the money). If you have 10k to spare on a whim then head into the camera shop on grafton street and ask for one there with a nice wide/zoom lens and have a look at the bags on display and pick whichever one you want that costs around 100 quid and looks cool - same for a tripod.

Don't worry about a flash for now - the built in one will do you fine until you've had some practice - otherwise a separate one will just add a level of complexity that will probably put you off.

If you've any common sense you'll browse a few photography tutorials for beginners - here's loads to get you started: http://digital-photography-school.com/tips/popular

Once you have a camera and have taken a few snaps and played around with Adobe Lightroom (which you can easily afford I presume) then come and post some on the Random thread here so we can all laugh at you - I'm kidding. It's very encouraging when you take a nice shot and the good people here let you know about it. Not to mention that there are some very, very good photographers in this forum so you could easily learn a thing or two without even trying.

tororosso · 23-05-2010 05:30PM

SouthDublinMan are you rich?! Not wanting to adhere too much to social stereotypes about South Dublin people but 10,000 Euros for a starter kit as a bit of craic???:eek:

Seriously just check out adverts.ie and get yourself a cheap second hand DSLR such as a Canon 400D (have one but not trying to plug a sale here :pac:) or something. Toy around with that and figure out what it is you are looking to do with the photography before spending 10K on a load of gear!!

pixbyjohn · 23-05-2010 05:53PM

Nikon D3x
***Professional Price: €5514.40**
**Includes Free Upgrade to 2 Year warranty. Click here to visit the Nikon Website for details**

**Professional Price: €1390.95 ex VAT**
Professional, extreme wideangle zoom NIKKOR lens, with14-24mm zoom range

Our price : €1,650.00 Price: 24-70mm zoom range

Price : €2,199.00 Price: 70-200 f2.8 VR II

Professional, fast aperture, telephoto zoom lens with Vibration Reduction, and Nano Crystal coat. Boasts superb edge-to-corner sharpness and fast, quiet autofocus that offers outstandingly sharp images under any lighting conditions. Weather sealed magnesium body to meet the most challenging professional needs

I think you will be very happy with these,
I think you might have to save up for a Nikon SB900 flashgun

23-05-2010 06:07PM

I've got an Olympus E-420, 14-42mm F3.5-5.6, kit lens, 40-150mm f/3.5-4.5 lens, a Canon 20D with it's 18-55 f/3.5-5.6, a Metz 48 Flash Gun, a Slik 400DX tripod, Joby Gorillapod with ballhead, seperate bags for almost each piece of equipment and a spare memory cards/batteries. Including books on photography, camera straps, cleaning pen/blower and other such misc. items, I've spent no more than €1,500.

That stuff isn't exactly amazing, but it does more than I'll ever need it to!

To be honest, as a beginner in the world of photography, I have more equipment than I'll ever actually use. Some of the stuff I bought (Flash gun, for example) has seen little to no use and the only things I want to buy in future are a camera backpack, viewfinder eye cups and a 50mm lens for the canon. I don't actually need them, just want them.

If you spend €10,000 starting out then, unless you have money to burn, you're just throwing it down the drain. What if you go out and spend an absolute fortune on camera gear and decide you hate photography?

OP, if i were you, I'd get yourself a cheap-ass DSLR, a prime lens, a telephoto lens and a tripod. You shouldn't get bored for a long time.

As you get more interested in different things, you can tailor your future purchases to whatever it is you want to photograph. There's no point spending €5,000 on a lens that is made for pro's who shoot sport, when you're only going to be taking photos of buildings at night, for example.

A solid, good desktop or laptop can be gotten for about €1,000 these days, too (unless you're into really hardcore gaming or something). OP, Adjust your budgets downwards by 70% and stick the left over into the Credit Union or something!

Captain Flaps · 23-05-2010 07:00PM

IamBlip · 23-05-2010 07:43PM

lol, InB4LocK

the_monkey · 23-05-2010 08:34PM

Think its time to lock this one, I am amazed people took it seriously!

pixbyjohn · 23-05-2010 08:37PM

the_monkey wrote: »

Think its time to lock this one, I am amazed people took it seriously!

It stuck out a mile:sunstroke and first post under that nick

SouthDublinMan · 26-05-2010 12:34AM

I was at the Game tonight in the RDS, some of those sports guys have huge lenses were any of the boardsies at the game would love to see some pics, was thinking again bout the camera but tbh there is so much choice I dont know where to start, I am sorry f I came acress arrogant bout the spons but I really would like to get some good gear!
A guy I know told me that the lenses dont really go down in price if second hand is this truE?

melekalikimaka · 26-05-2010 02:03AM

SouthDublinMan wrote: »

A guy I know told me that the lenses dont really go down in price if second hand is this truE?

not in the slightest... second hand market for good quality lens... i'd say youd be paying between 75-90 percent retail... prob closer to higher end of those figures.

tbh starting out... a d40(400 euro) and a d3x(5000 euro), youd have no clue the difference, aside from weight and buttons. If you really wanna buy 'good gear', by simple so you can learn, kinda silly going into a new hobby from the top, by the time you get to grips a with d3x, you'll be playing with a 5 year old slr, and you'll be obsolete, and being a gear hound that you seem, it'd be wasted money... but then again... you seem to want that...

AnimalRights · 26-05-2010 07:29AM

Wether ur genuine or not I'd recommend....

5D mk II or 7D (if u want sports)
50mm 1.4
24-105L IS
70-200L IS f4
100-400L IS

You're covered all the way up to 400 or as you said if you have money and like footy maybe substitue the 100-400L for a 300 2.8L which is expensive but your 10k budget will cover it.

PM me if u need more advice.

dinneenp · 26-05-2010 08:38AM

SouthDublinMan wrote: »

Hi

Was just in Marlay Park and saw a guy with a camera and I came to the conclusion that I want one.

You want a man or a camera?

PabD · 26-05-2010 09:14AM

Promac wrote: »

I don't know what the nikon equivalent is so I'll suggest buying a 5D Mark II (it's a good camera and isn't cheap but is worth the money). If you have 10k to spare on a whim then head into the camera shop on grafton street and ask for one there with a nice wide/zoom lens and have a look at the bags on display and pick whichever one you want that costs around 100 quid and looks cool - same for a tripod.

Don't worry about a flash for now - the built in one will do you fine until you've had some practice - otherwise a separate one will just add a level of complexity that will probably put you off.

You know what they say, you learn something new every day...:D

DaireQuinlan · 26-05-2010 09:15AM

Obviously you want to spend your money on something that is not only expensive, but which also LOOKS expensive, and will attract admiring glances from women and envious ones from men. As a bonus, it also takes fine photographs !

What you want is a Leica. Specifically a ..

Leica M9
Leica 50mm Summicron

And that's pretty much it really. For your €10000 you might be also able to buy some accessories, a lens hood for €160 or so for example.

elven · 26-05-2010 09:18AM

DaireQuinlan wrote: »

Obviously you want to spend your money on something that is not only expensive, but which also LOOKS expensive, and will attract admiring glances from women and envious ones from men. As a bonus, it also takes fine photographs !

What you want is a Leica. Specifically a ..

Leica M9
Leica 50mm Summicron

And that's pretty much it really. For your €10000 you might be also able to buy some accessories, a lens hood for €160 or so for example.

In this case you'll also only attract the women that know how much that little red dot costs... extra bonus.

sineadw · 26-05-2010 09:21AM

Mmmmm... red dooooooootttt....

dinneenp · 26-05-2010 09:27AM

If you have 10k to spare on a whim then head into the camera shop on grafton street

Picture happy camera shop owner when someone walks in saying "I have 10K to spend, help me"!

Captain Flaps · 26-05-2010 09:32AM

Why spend 10k on a camera when I have some magic beans here for €100...

DaireQuinlan · 26-05-2010 09:43AM

sineadw wrote: »

Mmmmm... red dooooooootttt....

<__<
>__>

-sticks red dot on front of nikon-

sineadw · 26-05-2010 09:49AM

I have red lines around all my lenses. Permanent marker actually *does* make the optics better OP. Yours for €9995.

DaireQuinlan · 26-05-2010 10:40AM

Wooo,

Check out about 2/3rds of the way down this page ...
http://www.leitax.com/leica-lens-for-nikon-cameras.html

Spare Leica red dots ! Only a euro a pop. I'm actually half tempted to buy a pile of them now and bling up all my nikkors

SouthDublinMan · 26-05-2010 11:26AM

I am sure you are all having fun with your in-jokes but I am looking for some serious advice re-photography, can you all go to twatter and have your red dot conversation and leave my thread alone!

Thanks in advance for your co-operation!

dakar · 26-05-2010 11:38AM

Well since you're apparently in the position to set yourself up with some serious kit, it might help if you help us point you in the right direction by letting us know what you are interested in photographing.

The recommendations for landscape photography will be different from sports, portraiture etc. Although for 10K, you can probably cover pretty much all the bases

NothingMan · 26-05-2010 11:38AM

SouthDublinMan wrote: »

I am sure you are all having fun with your in-jokes but I am looking for some serious advice re-photography, can you all go to twatter and have your red dot conversation and leave my thread alone!

Thanks in advance for your co-operation!

OP, I know from your other thread regarding cars that you obviously do have money to spend, however as the advice given has said, just because you have 10k doesn't mean you should spend it.

Most beginners looking for a DSLR (professional looking camera) like the Canon 450D or the new 550D (Has HD movie ability). They generally come with a kit lens 18-55mm IS(Image stabilization) and then you can get a zoom lens for as little as €250 for the 55-250mm IS. I have this setup and there is plenty of kit there to take excellent photos. All together in a shop should cost you less than €1200 including a good bag and tripod.

You could jump right in and get a 5D and L series lenses (Professional equipment) but just because you can afford it doesn't mean you should. You'll learn a LOT on the cheaper kit and the pro camera will just have more buttons and features that will just get in your way until you grasp the finer points of aperture, exposure, ISO and metering.

If you really want to spend the rest of the 10K then spend it traveling to nice places to use your new camera.

Best of luck.

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