The Iceland Volcano Thread

bamboozle · 18-05-2010 07:42AM

new ash disruption measures introduced...

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0518/breaking8.html

ninebeanrows · 18-05-2010 09:25AM

Funny isn't it, the measure will continue to be relaxed and relaxed if there continues to be disruption.

All until a plane falls out of the sky.

Money talks.

jambofc · 18-05-2010 09:53AM

Weathercheck wrote: »

Funny isn't it, the measure will continue to be relaxed and relaxed if there continues to be disruption.

All until a plane falls out of the sky.

Money talks.

been thinking that myself,cant believe that they have relaxed the level safe to fly threw....here's hoping it's not a wrong decision.

Pangea · 18-05-2010 10:18AM

Weathercheck wrote: »

Funny isn't it, the measure will continue to be relaxed and relaxed if there continues to be disruption.

All until a plane falls out of the sky.

Money talks.

Isnt it great , we can now fly closer to the volcanic ash!!

Money talks indeed , its pretty ridiclous how they are compromising travel problems for safety.
Oh and if a plane does fall out of the sky let michael o leary be in it.

Villain · 18-05-2010 10:52AM

To be fair lads, the restrictions in place over Europe only changed last year previous to that they were simalar to the rest of the world. From what I understand in other parts of the world they have a buffer no fly zone within a certain distance of an active Volcano and then they use visual observations to determine their route.

Also the modern engines operate at a lot higher temps and so the threat of Ash was thought to be worse but they have done a lot of testing in labs and found this isn't the case, although long exposures can cause issues thus this is why I think the new time limit zone has been put in place.

I don't think safety is been put at risk I just think the original restrictions were over the top and were put in place without proper testing and analysis. Also while many people don't like Michael O'Leary, Ryanair have one of the newest fleets of planes and their safety record is excellent.

nacho libre · 18-05-2010 11:21AM

Villain wrote: »

To be fair lads, the restrictions in place over Europe only changed last year previous to that they were simalar to the rest of the world. From what I understand in other parts of the world they have a buffer no fly zone within a certain distance of an active Volcano and then they use visual observations to determine their route.

Also the modern engines operate at a lot higher temps and so the threat of Ash was thought to be worse but they have done a lot of testing in labs and found this isn't the case, although long exposures can cause issues thus this is why I think the new time limit zone has been put in place.

I don't think safety is been put at risk I just think the original restrictions were over the top and were put in place without proper testing and analysis. Also while many people don't like Michael O'Leary, Ryanair have one of the newest fleets of planes and their safety record is excellent.

yes i'll give you that about Ryanair. it's the one area where O'leary doesn't skimp on - but of course it's only good business sense. you may have a point about the original restrictions being over the top, but i suspect some people in aviation would calculate it was worth taking a higher degree of risk the longer the disruption goes on, particularly when we are coming into one of the busiest times of the year for aviation. also it's worth bearing in mind that there has been huge pressure coming on for the scientific analysis to correspond with the wishes of the airliners. so it wouldn't surprise me if the data may be a little skewed. it has happened in the past when research has been undertaken, only for the findings to be proven not to be sound. i hope that's not the case here.

maquiladora · 18-05-2010 11:46PM

No view on the webcams but according the the latest Iceland Met Office report:

A powerful explosive eruption is ongoing and the height of the plume suggests that the eruption rate is over 200 tonnes per second.

drymartini · 19-05-2010 12:15AM

23.50 - May 18 2010

19-05-2010 12:22AM

http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/gosplott.html

Shows a slowdown in all kinds of activity! over the past few days.

The real question is, what was the 2nd of May event?

19-05-2010 12:30AM

nacho libre wrote: »

yes i'll give you that about Ryanair. it's the one area where O'leary doesn't skimp on - but of course it's only good business sense.

At the end of the day, given the choice of being stuck on the ground at some crappy airport or experiencing this,

It was, in Moody's words, "a bit like negotiating one's way up a badger's arse"

I know what my preferance is!

maquiladora · 19-05-2010 01:35AM

Deleted User wrote: »

http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/gosplott.html

Shows a slowdown in all kinds of activity! over the past few days.

The real question is, what was the 2nd of May event?

The tremors on that graph do not show earthquake swarms that can indicate magma movement deep under the volcano and do not show the amount of ash production. The tremors there indicate lava flow close to the surface more than anything else I think. And the volcano is in an explosive phase at the moment, with not much lava flow, thats why that graph doesnt look very active now.

drymartini · 19-05-2010 05:24AM

Screen shot 05.19 - 19 May 2010

alibabba · 19-05-2010 07:09AM

drymartini wrote: »

Screen shot 05.19 - 19 May 2010

Im on the way !
lol

alibabba · 19-05-2010 07:13AM

http://www.sat24.com/Eyjafjallajokull-volcano.aspx

cloudy, but you can def see a serious plume thru the clouds.

Also, I have been looking at the mulakot cam daily, and i have noticed the landscape on all three views have become extremely dark with all the ash that has fallen.

bamboozle · 19-05-2010 08:00AM

maquiladora wrote: »

No view on the webcams but according the the latest Iceland Met Office report:

when it re-erupted about 2 weeks ago it was coughing out 300-400 tonnes per second so 200 per second is a significant reduction

bamboozle · 19-05-2010 08:04AM

you can see on http://www.carlowweather.com/wxwarning.php that the maps which previously had red and black areas to signify plume coverage and areas which exceed accepted levels to fly in have now been adjusted to include a grey area which signifies the latest easing of restrictions.

ellieh1 · 19-05-2010 10:12AM

Does anyone have a link to a wed cam that has a good view of the volcano plume ect?

maquiladora · 19-05-2010 10:29AM

ellieh1 wrote: »

Does anyone have a link to a wed cam that has a good view of the volcano plume ect?

There is no good view at the moment because of cloud cover.

drymartini · 19-05-2010 09:53PM

21.44 - May 19 2010

Pangea · 19-05-2010 10:24PM

Villain wrote: »

. Also while many people don't like Michael O'Leary, Ryanair have one of the newest fleets of planes and their safety record is excellent.

Who said anything about ryanair

drymartini · 20-05-2010 09:12AM

09.09 - May 20 2010

Villain · 20-05-2010 12:55PM

Winds shift back to a Northern direction on Monday, next week could test the new restrictions

Elmo5 · 20-05-2010 10:05PM

Looks like there has been another quake around Katla.

Villain · 20-05-2010 10:11PM

See that, been very quite around eyjafjallajokull over the last few days

maquiladora · 21-05-2010 12:11AM

Yep the good news is that the volcano has been less explosive the past couple of days, plume has been lower on radar & there's been no major earthquake swarms so no sign of 'new' magma rising.

drymartini · 21-05-2010 02:40AM

02.38 - May 21 2010

dryan · 21-05-2010 08:31AM

is this the calm before the storm?

bamboozle · 21-05-2010 08:51AM

dryan wrote: »

is this the calm before the storm?

if you look at the attached there's been very little activity recently, hopefully its dying down, 10 days ago there were plenty of earthquakes

http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes/myrdalsjokull/

drymartini · 21-05-2010 11:18AM

one of them 0.4M is under Katla

http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes/myrdalsjokull/#view=map

Villain · 21-05-2010 11:19AM

Thats not good!

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