The Iceland Volcano Thread

bamboozle · 12-05-2010 09:11AM

alibabba wrote: »

Positive news !

All i see here is another typical example of profit before people.

i agree and disagree with you, but i'd be hopeful that risks would not be taken with people's lives just to ensure the airlines make a few bucks.

the longer the disruption continues the greater the examination into the manner in which airspace is being closed/regulated.

alibabba · 12-05-2010 09:26AM

The only ones that pressurised how the method of measuring ash content in airspace were of course the airlines. And they werent doing this out of concerns for passenger safety.
I accept how this must be hurting them, but feic it, as already mention on this thread way back, we fly too much anyway.

The people in charge of keep airspace open/closed can only rely on the information thats out there, if the technology needs to be upgraded to make more accurate decisions so be it. But until then, if there is any Ash in the airspace, they shouldnt be tempted to chance the extra yard here and there just because there is pressure been applied by cash starved airlines / and soon to be tourism hit countries.

goat2 · 12-05-2010 10:18AM

Deleted User wrote: »

How long does it take for sterile ash to become fertile soil???

edit: this long

looking at the picture a few posts back, we can see nothing but grey and black

these people are in bigger trouble financially than us, then all this deep ploughing and incorperating other substances into the soil is going to cost, also the animals need food now and this winter coming, there will be very little or nothing, we are so lucky that it is only flying that is effected, we still have boats, and have our land fine and green,
these people are in an auful position
smoke dust ash covering everything, the crops they eat, veg, fruit, even their meat products are effected

MJohnston · 12-05-2010 10:31AM

goat2 wrote: »

looking at the picture a few posts back, we can see nothing but grey and black

these people are in bigger trouble financially than us, then all this deep ploughing and incorperating other substances into the soil is going to cost, also the animals need food now and this winter coming, there will be very little or nothing, we are so lucky that it is only flying that is effected, we still have boats, and have our land fine and green,
these people are in an auful position
smoke dust ash covering everything, the crops they eat, veg, fruit, even their meat products are effected

At least, though, the majority of the ash has fallen not on land or on land not used by anyone, as most of it has blown away from the country itself.

goat2 · 12-05-2010 11:01AM

i would like to see an up to date aireal view of the whold of iceland, so that we could see the damage first
ash is billowing a long time now, which it is covering thicker all the time

El Horseboxo · 12-05-2010 11:24AM

It's gonna take a plane crash before these selfish bastards realize it is a real danger flying into airspace where they may or may not be ash. If there's any risk you don't risk it. Simple.

DOCARCH · 12-05-2010 11:37AM

People in Iceland are somewhat used to it as a volcano errupts on average every 5 years in Iceland, the only reason we are hearing so much about is that it's effecting air travel in Europe.

Only a very small area of the country (a rural/agricultural area) is affected by this erruption (so far) as most of the ash is blown out to sea. As far as I am aware Reykjavik airport has only had to close for a couple of hours since the start of this episode.

maquiladora · 12-05-2010 12:29PM

Regarding ashfall in Iceland, it's really only areas fairly close to and downwind of the volcano that are getting affected by it at the moment. This map shows >1mm ashfall predictions :

http://en.vedur.is/media/jar/myndsafn/large/VORIS_2_0_1b_aska_20100511.jpg

DOCARCH · 12-05-2010 02:11PM

Hopefully skies will clear soon so we can see what's coming out today.

Looks from satelite - http://www.sat24.com/Eyjafjallajokull-volcano.aspx - that plume/ash has now changed direction and is now drifting south east from the volcano (directly towards Ireland).

maquiladora · 12-05-2010 02:54PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Hopefully skies will clear soon so we can see what's coming out today.

Looks from satelite - http://www.sat24.com/Eyjafjallajokull-volcano.aspx - that plume/ash has now changed direction and is now drifting south east from the volcano (directly towards Ireland).

http://en.vedur.is/weather/forecasts/cloudcover/

Should have clear skies soon based on that.

bamboozle · 12-05-2010 02:59PM

maquiladora wrote: »

http://en.vedur.is/weather/forecasts/cloudcover/
Should have clear skies soon based on that.

IAA's latest release says things are going to ease compared to the last few days, looking at the above link, there seem to be far fewer earthquakes recorded in the last 24 hours compared to previous days

http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes/

maquiladora · 12-05-2010 03:00PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Looks from satelite - http://www.sat24.com/Eyjafjallajokull-volcano.aspx - that plume/ash has now changed direction and is now drifting south east from the volcano (directly towards Ireland).

Yep, you can clearly see the change here too before and after the high level clouds pass over Iceland, if you loop it over 24 hours.

http://oiswww.eumetsat.org/IPPS/html/MSG/RGB/ASH/ICELAND/index.htm

maquiladora · 12-05-2010 03:32PM

Ash forecast looks bad for us on 15th, 16th & 17th if this comes off....

http://transport.nilu.no/browser/fpv?fpp=conccol_VO_1_

peasant · 12-05-2010 03:57PM

Flew straight over the bugger yesterday morning.
Kind of ironic ...flying from Cuba all the way up the American east coast and over Greenland to avoid the ash cloud and then flying round the back of the volcano so close that you can actually see it from the plane.

The pictures were taken (by good lady wife) from the central aisle (in a Boing 767 at cruising altitude) peeking through a far away window, so not great quality ..but you get the idea

Bonus non-active Islandic volcano pic (don't ask me which one though

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bamboozle · 12-05-2010 04:05PM

maquiladora wrote: »

Ash forecast looks bad for us on 15th, 16th & 17th if this comes off....

http://transport.nilu.no/browser/fpv?fpp=conccol_VO_1_

the latest report from the IAA seems to be considering the ash to be less of an issue for the next while

The Irish Aviation Authority has said that all Irish airports will remain open until further notice.
The Authority says that a statement will be issued if any volcanic ash threat to Irish airspace emerges in the coming days.
Intending passengers are still being advised to regularly check their airline's website in advance of going to the airport.
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Speaking on RTÉ's [URL="javascript:showRadioPlayer("/news/morningireland/player.html?20100512,2751914,2751914,real,209")"]Morning Ireland[/URL], Brian Flynn of Eurocontrol said that based on its experience, the ash cloud should not continue to cause massive flight disruptions in the short-term.

maquiladora · 12-05-2010 04:19PM

bamboozle wrote: »

the latest report from the IAA seems to be considering the ash to be less of an issue for the next while

Hopefully. But if that forecast came off I'm sure there would be disruption.

DOCARCH · 12-05-2010 07:11PM

Now that cloud has cleared, plume is looking impressive this evening!

http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-hvolsvelli/

New plume heading straight for Scotland.

http://metoffice.com/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1273683706.png

DOCARCH · 12-05-2010 07:17PM

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

Watch in HD.

That's great. Hard to appreciate when looking at webcams how quickly the volcano is ejecting stuff.

drymartini · 12-05-2010 08:13PM

I'll add some more shots if the cloud behaves during your European night time tonight.
Cheers, from the Land of the Long White Cloud downunder.

maquiladora · 12-05-2010 09:48PM

For those who have been waiting for Katla to go off, perhaps you have been looking at the wrong volcano :pac: Read this....

11. May 2010 - 08:33 Jóna Ann Pétursdóttir

Seismic activity under Bardarbunga has scientists speculating about a possible eruption.

Seismic activity has been ongoing in Bardarbunga in Vatnajökull for several weeks now. Bardarbunga is the largest volcano in Iceland, located in the country's largest glacier, Vatnajökull. This activity, scientists say, could suggest that the volcano is about to erupt or volcanos in that area.

Ever since Eyjafjallajökull erupted in April there have been speculations about the volcano Katla. After an eruption in Eyjafjallajökull Katla has usually followed. There are, however, no signs that Katla is about to erupt.

Bardarbunga in Vatnajökull on the other hand, has been showing seismic activity for over five weeks. Ari Trausti Gudmundsson geologist says that over one hundred small earthquakes have been measured under Bardarbunga and the reason could be a possible magma intrusion deep under the volcano. Ari has given the Department of Civil Protection and Emergency Management his findings. Gudrun Johannesdottir a project manager with the department told Pressan.is that scientists are following the activity in Bardarbunga closely.

Omar Ragnarsson, a keen volcano enthusiast and former reporter, has also been following the activity closely and says in his blog on 12 March:
An eruption in the northeastern part of Vatnajökull could have greater ramifications than an eruption in Eyjafjallajökull since it could lead
to catastrophic flooding. The axle Bardarbunga-Grimsvötn is the center of the volcanic belt that runs from the southwest to the northwest of Iceland and the center of the mantle plume which is under Iceland. This mantle plume is one of the two largest in the world. The other one is
under Hawaii. The largest earthquakes recorded this year at Bardarbunga are 3,3 and 4,0 on the Richter scale, the largest recorded since 2002. The volcano at Bardarbunga is estimated to be around 200 kilometers long and up to 25 kilometers wide. It is covered in ice. Bardarbunga has never erupted in historic times but the largest lava flow in the world stems from Bardarbunga when it erupted 8500 years ago.

Steinunn S. Jakobsdottir, project manager with the Icelandic Met Office says the activity has been considerable in the area all this year and the IMO is keeping a close watch on the situation although there is no reason to fear an eruption just yet. However the activity shows that Bardarbunga is alive and kicking.

There have been eruptions in that area every five years, in Gjálp 1996 and Grimsvötn 1998 and 2004. Even though there is seismic activity under Bardarbunga that doesn´t necessarily mean that Bardarbunga will erupt.
When Gjálp erupted in 1996, for example, seismic activity had been right under Bardarbunga for some time before.

http://www.pressan.is/News/ReadIcela...upt-in-iceland

Its worth remembering that the only thing that links Eyjafjallajökull and Katla eruptions is historical coincidence. Katla has gone off plenty of times independent of activity at Eyjafjallajökull. And there has been no activity reported at Katla recently, unlike Bardarbunga.

maquiladora · 12-05-2010 09:54PM

Plume looks impressive in the sunlight at the moment :

redsteveireland · 12-05-2010 09:55PM

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

Watch in HD.QUOTE]

That explosion at 0:16 seconds is amazing!

Now why does the quote do that ?

maquiladora · 12-05-2010 10:13PM

up for anything · 12-05-2010 10:52PM

The lighter side of volcanoes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jq-sMZtSww

drymartini · 13-05-2010 01:15AM

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

Lightning can be seen at the moment. Catch it if you are there.
http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-thorolfsfelli/

on a screen shot. I managed to ger one but when you view the screen shot it was a white blurr.
I'll keep trying.
Here's a screenshot at 01.07 May 13 2010

drymartini · 13-05-2010 01:24AM

down the valley.
Not sure whether its the lava flow, because its actually "erupting" in small bursts.
Might get a better view when daylight approaches.
Hope that cloud disappears.
Here's a screenshot at 1.17 - 13 May 2010

drymartini · 13-05-2010 02:36AM

Thermal screenshot at 02.32 - 13 May 2010.
Lightning strikes are still occuring.

drymartini · 13-05-2010 02:49AM

02.46 - 13 May 2010

digme · 13-05-2010 03:00AM

How come there is lighting around it so much?

drymartini · 13-05-2010 03:13AM

03.11 - 13 May 2010

The Iceland Volcano Thread

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