John Higgins match fixing claims

SD7792 · 02-05-2010 01:15PM

fatherbuzcagney wrote: »

you still would take the bookies money even though its not a fair playing pitch as you know the result of an event (which is a cheating of sorts).....im not saying that you encourage cheating in sport ...... i just think that there is alot of 'goody good two shoes' on boards , but they would take an unfair advantage of something or someone and think its wrong for someone else to do it....

Yeah i'm not trying to make myself out as somebody who's never done anything wrong or anything. Coz i have. But if I put money on something I know the outcome of i'm not putting my family, my career and my industry into jeopardy and i'm not definitely not getting a quarter of a million for it..

Dr.Silly · 02-05-2010 01:35PM

and this is just one incident that was actually caught on camera,

I imagine the sport is riddled with it to be honest....sad

amacachi · 02-05-2010 01:40PM

fatherbuzcagney wrote: »

I think he has committed no wrong doing... He makes a living out of playing snooker and he just decided to do a little nixer on the side to make a few extra quid , The bookies get a little hit but they have the country ruined and also give **** odds and deserve to get punished.

Bookies never lose, it was other punters being screwed in this, not BIG BAD BOOKIES.

Anyway, Higgins can **** right off now.
I hope Hearn doesn't go, I have a feeling if anyone was going to clean up the sport he's likely to be the one. God knows who else has taken money for what now.

yermandan · 02-05-2010 01:41PM

Anybody know what Virgo was saying on Newstalk? Whats been the general reaction from (ex) players?

terlywerly · 02-05-2010 01:45PM

A very, very sad day for snooker.
I feel bad for Neil and Graeme today, having to play and be overshadowed by this news.
Fair play to Barry Hearn, he's handling it well

fatherbuzcagney · 02-05-2010 01:47PM

amacachi wrote: »

Bookies never lose, it was other punters being screwed in this, not BIG BAD BOOKIES.

Anyway, Higgins can **** right off now.
I hope Hearn doesn't go, I have a feeling if anyone was going to clean up the sport he's likely to be the one. God knows who else has taken money for what now.

on betfair? i taught the bookies would have taking some of the hit or hits as it is deffo not the first time.

Gallant_JJ · 02-05-2010 01:53PM

Very interesting to see wht the beeb say about it now at 2 o clock

yermandan · 02-05-2010 01:56PM

Pat Mooney on Sky News

yermandan · 02-05-2010 01:58PM

Lying through his teeth, its so feckin obvious... Crocodile tears

yermandan · 02-05-2010 02:02PM

BBC not ignoring it anyway, started the show today with it...Will be
interesting to see how the day pans out

yermandan · 02-05-2010 02:07PM

Higgins statement states that he was scared and went along with the conversation
out of fear and that he just wanted to get out of there. Come on John, the game is
up, anyone and everyone who saw the footage and who has an ounce of sense can
see that you are just digging a bigger hole for yourself..

Pityful imo

userod · 02-05-2010 02:19PM

yermandan wrote: »

Higgins statement states that he was scared and went along with the conversation
out of fear and that he just wanted to get out of there. Come on John, the game is
up, anyone and everyone who saw the footage and who has an ounce of sense can
see that you are just digging a bigger hole for yourself..

Pityful imo

You're probably right, but I'm hoping you're wrong... I would love if there was some sort of reasoning behind him asking "any cameras?".

He was my favourite player and seemed like a true gentleman. Fooled I was...

openviews · 02-05-2010 02:22PM

So was John kidnapped and taken to Kiev?..otherwise why else was he there?

The fact that this took place on Friday also leads to questions of whether being knocked out of the World Championship before the final was arranged to allow him the opportunity to travel there.

Watching Davis before the match he looked really peeved and like he wanted to say alot more.

userod · 02-05-2010 02:23PM

On Sky News, John Higgins "I would never do anything to damage integrity of the sport I love, my conscience is 100% clear"...

Ayrtonf7 · 02-05-2010 02:23PM

Wow just after hearing about all this now...

And there was me thinking snooker was a sport different to most others. A gentlemans sport I think my dad described it to me as once and thats all I ever seen playing it.

I personally wouldnt put any money on it wether these allegations are true. Just feels like something isnt adding up. With a bitta luck ill be right.

Roar · 02-05-2010 02:27PM

this is when the news of the world went to his house to tell him

look at the panic on his face

IrishKev · 02-05-2010 02:29PM

yermandan wrote: »

Higgins statement states that he was scared and went along with the conversation
out of fear and that he just wanted to get out of there. Come on John, the game is
up, anyone and everyone who saw the footage and who has an ounce of sense can
see that you are just digging a bigger hole for yourself..

Pityful imo

Link to his statement? Wouldn't mind seeing what he has to say about it, I hope I'm wrong but it looks like he's backed himself into a corner here that he won't be able to get out easily. The snooker community is full of unwritten rules that everyone follows, for example players usually call a foul on themselves in a game or things like that, so this will shock the snooker world to the core. Really disappointed seeing Higgins of all people doing this, wouldn't have thought in a million years he would have.

Although, I can see the temptation to commit such a crime, despite all the risks. Even though it is really wrong and should never be done, I would be tempted myself if I was in his position. But having said, that a man of his experience in the game should have more sense and more cop on.

MagicMarker · 02-05-2010 02:29PM

lol, he looks like a right chav.

Penisland · 02-05-2010 02:29PM

Roar wrote: »

this is when the news of the world went to his house to tell him

look at the panic on his face

"O ****!"

Were did you get this?

Roar · 02-05-2010 02:30PM

Penisland wrote: »

"O ****!"

Were did you get this?

sorry, should have included the link

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/801883/John-Higgins-snooker-match-fixing-scandal.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

amacachi · 02-05-2010 02:32PM

fatherbuzcagney wrote: »

on betfair? i taught the bookies would have taking some of the hit or hits as it is deffo not the first time.

Have you any idea how bookies set their odds? For a frame win they'll have it very sensitive, so that any large bet will instantly update the odds. The odds make sure they make a percentage no matter what the result is. It's very, very rare a bookies will lose out.

themont85 · 02-05-2010 02:36PM

Roar wrote: »

this is when the news of the world went to his house to tell him

look at the panic on his face

State of that hoodie.

yermandan · 02-05-2010 02:42PM

Sorry guys,

Here's the link to the Rte story. Nothing on BBC yet, although thats where I read it first,
when they showed it before the final began.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/snooker/2010/0502/higginsj1.html

fatherbuzcagney · 02-05-2010 02:43PM

amacachi wrote: »

Have you any idea how bookies set their odds? For a frame win they'll have it very sensitive, so that any large bet will instantly update the odds. The odds make sure they make a percentage no matter what the result is. It's very, very rare a bookies will lose out.

so the scam was done on betfair, is that what you are saying.

Herbal Deity · 02-05-2010 02:51PM

Wait a second, there's one thing that no one seems to have questioned yet.

Did the News of the World just set up a fake meeting to catch him out?

Is that not entrapment?

And how can they suspend him if there's no proof that he's ever thrown a frame for cash? All they have is a video of him agreeing to do something in the future, i.e. something he hasn't in fact done.

I mean it looks pretty bad, and I'm not necessarily defending Higgins, but I find the manner in which this whole situation has arisen to be highly questionable.

davocesque · 02-05-2010 03:01PM

devastated to hear this, only wrote last week that higgins was my favourite player on the other thread.

but when you think about it, it must be a very simple scam, and if any players were up for increasing their modest earning compared to other sports, it wudnt be as difficult to do. it was only recently when allegations surrounded stephen maguire.

hope im wrong cuz i love the game!!!

aDeener · 02-05-2010 03:04PM

to win a given frame on paddy power, between the top players is usually 5/6 for both of them.

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FlawedGenius · 02-05-2010 03:35PM

Dr.Silly wrote: »

and this is just one incident that was actually caught on camera,

I imagine the sport is riddled with it to be honest....sad

What was caught on camera?????????????

John Higgins match fixing claims

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