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Homebrew Beer Howto

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    oblivious wrote: »
    Its not mixing but rousing, use a Sterling long spoon (plastic preferably) or something similar and gently rouse the yeast from the bottom. Don't allow any foaming as this is the site of oxygen dissolution into your beer and oxygen at this point is not a good idea
    Yeah, but there's no need to do this after four days, right? It's for ten days in and you're still far off the target FG, isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    oblivious wrote: »
    Its not mixing but rousing, use a Sterling long spoon (plastic preferably) or something similar and gently rouse the yeast from the bottom. Don't allow any foaming as this is the site of oxygen dissolution into your beer and oxygen at this point is not a good idea
    Ooohh ark at him! Silver spoon no less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Yeah, but there's no need to do this after four days, right? It's for ten days in and you're still far off the target FG, isn't it?

    Yea, but it can depend on the yeast been used something like ring wood may need it ever day! or if it was if the wort was under pitched


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭guildofevil


    I really doubt any kit beer would be supplied with a yeast that requires rousing and there is no reason to think that this beer needs it. Best policy: don't fiddle with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    I really doubt any kit beer would be supplied with a yeast that requires rousing and there is no reason to think that this beer needs it. Best policy: don't fiddle with it.

    yea, but silliegillie give it a good two weeks in the primary if you can or want check the gravity with a sterilized hydrometer and rouse if the gravity is still high (1.020 or so)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭silliegillie


    Interesting Theories there on the Rouse Dont rouse , I think I will leave it though as Better safe than sorry.


  • Subscribers Posts: 710 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    Brilliant thread...pity it's so vast - I'll never get through 80 pages!
    It should be made a sub category of Beer & Wine & Spirits!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Ah but you don't need to go through the whole thread to learn stuff. There are other places to look to learn everything you need to know about homebrew. ;)


    V V V V V V V V V


  • Subscribers Posts: 710 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    Of course there are, such is the genius of t'internet - but I'm just passively suggesting that for the sake of this thread, it would be much more practical to have it layed out as a subcategory rather than the arduous effort of rolling through pages. If there's 80 pages of stuff in a single thread there's going to be a lot of the info missed out on and that's going discourage roamers or passersby, not really what you want.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    I'd agree that a sub-forum may be a great addition to the forum, feel free to suggest one here. I'll have a word with the other mods and gauge their opinions too.



    Saruman wrote: »
    Ah but you don't need to go through the whole thread to learn stuff. There are other places to look to learn everything you need to know about homebrew. ;)


    V V V V V V V V V

    Cut it out.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I'd agree that a sub-forum may be a great addition to the forum,
    One thing that occured to me a while back is a stickied home brewing FAQ thread. New questions could be added to the original post as it goes along so there's always a useful single reference post for people who are interested the subject. Dunno what the practicalities are, but I could have a go at starting it off.


  • Subscribers Posts: 710 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    FAQ, yeah true enough but why not just go the whole hog and introjuce a subforum...there's more than enough scope to justify it. As for officially proposing it, as much as I'd be in favour of, it's not something I'd be in a position to do with my lack of experience on the subject and my tendancy to roam and sift rather than actually post :D!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    I am all for it and Beernut is the man to put it together if it gets the go ahead.
    It does not have to be restricted to beer either. Wine and cider can be made just as easy as beer, in fact wine is easier than beer to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Yea a sub form would be a great idea and easier for the members to use


  • Subscribers Posts: 710 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    I'm using Young's Super Wine Yeast compound to ferment wine. I'm new enough to the whole thing but it says on the tub to keep refrigerated once opened. What implications does this have for reuse? I've read somewhere that the tempreture of the water/must and the temp of the yeast should never be more than 7 degs C apart when rehydrating the yeast...so do I cool the water or allow yeast to reach room temp??

    Also as this yeast is a compound and advertises speedy fermentation do I need a nutrient or does this contain all necessary? It contains clearing agent too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭silliegillie


    Drinking my fist home brew now. Its Good thanks for all the advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    zippy84 wrote: »
    I'm using Young's Super Wine Yeast compound to ferment wine. I'm new enough to the whole thing but it says on the tub to keep refrigerated once opened. What implications does this have for reuse?

    you can reuse yeast but if its dry yeast the cost and reduced risk of infection it can be eraser to by a new dry yeast



    zippy84 wrote: »
    I've read somewhere that the tempreture of the water/must and the temp of the yeast should never be more than 7 degs C apart when rehydrating the yeast...so do I cool the water or allow yeast to reach room temp??

    rehydrate at 20-25 c, you will be fine
    zippy84 wrote: »
    Also as this yeast is a compound and advertises speedy fermentation do I need a nutrient or does this contain all necessary? It contains clearing agent too.

    I would add the nutrient if its has come with the yeast, as wine fermentation will stress out the yeast and to get the most from them the additional nutrients maybe be required.

    The clearing agent will be added after fermentation to pull down the yeast, but some wine make filter to mask the wine bright


  • Subscribers Posts: 710 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    oblivious wrote: »
    you can reuse yeast but if its dry yeast the cost and reduced risk of infection it can be eraser to by a new dry yeast

    The yeast is obviously designed to be used multiple times, after all it comes in a 60g tub, so there shouldn't be a problem there. It says just refrigerate once opened: http://i.ebayimg.com/02/!B,diBLgBGk~$(KGrHgoH-D!EjlLl0oH(BKrmFHRYyw~~_35.JPG
    oblivious wrote: »
    Rehydrate at 20-25 c, you will be fine

    I thought it had to be rehydrated at this temp, but does this mean allowing the yeast to come up from refrigeration temp to room temp first??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    zippy84 wrote: »

    I thought it had to be rehydrated at this temp, but does this mean allowing the yeast to come up from refrigeration temp to room temp first??

    You should yes. For an all grain brew this is no problem as you will take out the yeast when you start and it will be up to 8 hours later that you actually add the yeast. So after a few hours you can rehydrate.

    If you are doing a kit, this can be an issue in the sense that a kit only takes an hour at most so if your yeast is fresh from the fridge you may have issues.

    It is not a big problem per say but you may stress the yeast and it could produce off flavours.

    The way I do it is I rehydrate with some runnings from my mash tun. I set aside some runnings and then boil it for a few minutes to sanitise and then chill it then once it is about 20c or so I add the yeast and it eats away nicely. That way the 2l starter I have added will not alter the flavour of the beer much, other than it did not get boiled with the rest of the wort.

    A starter is not necessary of course, you just get a much faster start on the fermentation which is always a good thing. My last batch was bubbling within an hour of pitching the yeast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    zippy84 wrote: »
    The yeast is obviously designed to be used multiple times, after all it comes in a 60g tub, so there shouldn't be a problem there. It says just refrigerate once opened: http://i.ebayimg.com/02/!B,diBLgBGk~$(KGrHgoH-D!EjlLl0oH(BKrmFHRYyw~~_35.JPG

    A, then for that tub you need to weigh out the amount of yeast need and not use it all in one go


    zippy84 wrote: »
    thought it had to be rehydrated at this temp, but does this mean allowing the yeast to come up from refrigeration temp to room temp first??


    you can leave the yeast out for a hour to warm up


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 644 ✭✭✭filthymcnasty


    hi all, i made my first brew (Beer) yesterday from a kit.
    The wort is in the bucket fermenting- but when i checked earlier after 24 hrs, I can see only a small amount of froth/foam and only very slight bubbling going on. The brew is been kept in a spare room where the room temp is about 16-17 degrees (too low??).
    should i be seeing more 'activity' at this early stage or is this the norm?- (sorry if this has been answered already- read thru most of the thread but cant see anything)many thanks.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    It should be fine: if there's activity you're on your way. It is a little bit cool at 17: 18-20 is ideal. You could perhaps throw a blanket around it, but don't make too much of an intervention as too cool is much better than too warm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭slayerking


    hi all, i made my first brew (Beer) yesterday from a kit.
    The wort is in the bucket fermenting- but when i checked earlier after 24 hrs, I can see only a small amount of froth/foam and only very slight bubbling going on. The brew is been kept in a spare room where the room temp is about 16-17 degrees (too low??).
    should i be seeing more 'activity' at this early stage or is this the norm?- (sorry if this has been answered already- read thru most of the thread but cant see anything)many thanks.

    A Krausen (the froth) on top of the beer and bubbles is a good sign the fermentation has begun. Your in business!!:D

    16-17 degrees is a touch on the low side though. If you have a blanket knocking about it might be a good idea to wrap up the fermenter in it. The heat produced by the fermentation will raise the temperature of fermentation slightly. 18-20 degrees would be a better range to go for general ale yeasts. A blanket should get you close to that range.

    What kit is it that your fermenting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 644 ✭✭✭filthymcnasty


    thanks for the replies folks, so i think it is going right so far. i put a sleeping bag around the bucket. the brew is called india ale that was given to me by a mate so i hope its not too bad.
    ps regarding kegging, i'm going to need more sugar- is there any particular brand i should use that i could buy in tescos or the like. thanks again, filthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭slayerking


    I generally use glucose (from the baking section in Dunnes!!) for priming when I'm bottling but normal table sugar is fine too. I used sugar in my last batch actually
    Either is will do the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Yeah for priming, use whatever is handy and cheap. Table sugar or glucose. Table sugar is cheaper so I use that. It makes zero difference as both are 100% fermentable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭silliegillie


    I will be starting my second batch soon. I used Glucose for fermenting and table sugar for Priming my last batch. For priming I was thinking of trying Coopers Carbon Drops or should I just stick with regular table sugar. Should I expect a different taste by using Different priming sugars ?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Should I expect a different taste by using Different priming sugars ?
    Not really, especially if you're using ones that are fully fermentable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    For priming I was thinking of trying Coopers Carbon Drops or should I just stick with regular table sugar.

    There are pros and cons to everything.

    The pros with the carbonation drops are they are simple, no mess, consistent carbonation, quicker to do than a bottling bucket or trying to measure the amount of sugar for each bottle if doing it that way.

    The Cons are that they are more expensive than sugar and you have no control over the carbonation level of the beer.

    I have some that I only use for bottling what does not fit in the keg. These are my sample bottles to see how the beer is progressing while conditioning. The carbonation level is not much of an issue for these samples so the coopers drops are handy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    I'm going to start fermenting a second batch of iBrew Ale.

    Instead of using the 2 x 10pint Mini-Barrels supplied with the kit, would it be ok to use Flip Top bottles?

    Ikea have them, and I can get someone to get me a staff discount, I'll probably buy 10 x 1 Litre bottles.

    Once the beer has fermented for 3 or so weeks, I plan to just pour it from the fermentation vat into the bottles, via a funnel with some muslin in the bottom, would that be ok?

    I found the siphoning part very hard to do the last time.


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