The Iceland Volcano Thread

Deep Easterly · 20-04-2010 04:10PM

snow ghost wrote: »

The BBC was reporting earlier that Iranian clerics blamed women wearing short skirts, etc for earthquakes there! :eek: Wonder if is why this Volcano erupted in Iceland - all those icelandic chicks bathing in those hot springs?

All we get here when we see chicks in little clothing is car crashes.

Was only a matter of time before this came up:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18794-blame-the-volcano-trouble-on-sun-and-global-warming.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

Apparently, global warming causes more blocking patterns to develop. This is the same global warming that supposedly caused the very same blocking patterns to be diminished just a few months ago. :rolleyes:

Su Campu · 20-04-2010 04:18PM

Well as I sit at home here when I should be at the airport, I came across these jokes about the volcano. Not great, but at least they may rise a smile. Then again.......:rolleyes:

1. Your mum’s so fat when she got cremated they had to ban all planes from flying over europe.
2. Icelandic Volcano? I thought the dust was coming from Man City's trophy cabinet!

3. I think it’s too soon to make jokes about the Icelandic volcano…we should at least wait until the dust settles.

4. Volcano in Iceland…What next Earthquake in Asda?

5. What do Cheryl Cole and the Iceland volcano have in common? They both chucked out ash.

6. Dear Iceland, We said send cash, not ash.

7. Woke this morning to find every surface in the house covered in a layer of dust and a foul stench of sulphur in the air.... Yes, I’ve been married to that bone-idle slob for 20 years.
8. It was the last wish of the Icelandic economy that its ashes were spread all over Europe.
9. There’s no pleasing the English. The last time they got the Ashes they were over the moon.
10. Went outside today and got hit by a bag of frozen sausages, a chocolate gateau and some fish fingers. Someone said it's a fallout from Iceland.

snow ghost · 20-04-2010 04:19PM

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Was only a matter of time before this came up:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18794-blame-the-volcano-trouble-on-sun-and-global-warming.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

Apparently, global warming causes more blocking patterns to develop. This is the same global warming that supposedly caused the very same blocking patterns to be diminished just a few months ago. :rolleyes:

It would be good if it was true though Deep... pushing all the wet and windy mush down to Spain and giving us months of endless sun in the summer.

I've given up on the global warming -v- no global warming, it's like the nutrition industry... full of convoluted nonsense with that many claims and counter claims it's hard to know who to believe. That said I err on the side of it all just being cyclical.

maquiladora · 20-04-2010 04:21PM

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Was only a matter of time before this came up:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18794-blame-the-volcano-trouble-on-sun-and-global-warming.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

Apparently, global warming causes more blocking patterns to develop. This is the same global warming that supposedly caused the very same blocking patterns to be diminished just a few months ago. :rolleyes:

Apparently, global warming causes global warming, which has led to a year on year rise in global warming. We all must do our part to combat global warming through global warming initiatives before global warming becomes a global problem for our childrens globe... Warming. :pac:

Deep Easterly · 20-04-2010 04:25PM

snow ghost wrote: »

It would be good if it was true though Deep... pushing all the wet and windy mush down to Spain and giving us months of endless sun in the summer.

I've given up on the global warming -v- no global warming, it's like the nutrition industry... full of convoluted nonsense with that many claims and counter claims it's hard to know who to believe. That said I err on the side of it all just being cyclical.

Yes, global warming supposedly caused the jet stream to push further north. Now, it causes it to push further south. Whatever is convenient for a particular occasion seems to be the sum. Whoever writes this codswallop is doing no favours to the pro debate, which could have some credibility only for this constant junk and misleading information that is continuously being churned out by them.

Sponge Bob · 20-04-2010 04:26PM

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Was only a matter of time before this came up:

How about 'when a dirty ash volcano spews ash over the Artic or Antartic it gets colder'

Mind you the time series used below includes the Toba supervolcano not some fanny of a yoke in Iceland. The GISP2 record is a Greenland deep ice core .

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC404046/

Periods of more frequent volcanic ash deposits at Siple Dome are generally associated with stadials (colder stages within an overall glacial period) at GISP2.

Furthermore

If volcanic ash covered a substantial area of snow or ice, this could significantly reduce the surface albedo of that region for a short time and possibly cause melting, in particular, if the eruption occurred in the summer.

The aerosol component of an eruption, resulting mainly from the emission of SO2 and H2S, can remain aloft and potentially force climate on timescales of years, decades, or longer (29).

Volcanic aerosols affect the Earth's radiation balance, principally by reflecting sunlight back into space and cooling the planet. By serving as cloud condensation nuclei, sulfate aerosols are believed to change the microphysical structure, water content, lifetime, and extent of clouds (30).

Not only the type and magnitude but also the location of an eruption are thought to determine its climatic impact

Most especially if Ole Dirty bastard goes pop and tips its ash all over the Artic

owenc · 20-04-2010 04:29PM

Graces7 wrote: »

It is the aggression and rudeness, and lack of any sense of humour; will leave him to you men, but if he had been in any of my classes in my teaching days and spoken as he does...;)

what grub are you talking about now..:rolleyes: you only come on to complain.
oh i see you are a teacher!

snow ghost · 20-04-2010 04:31PM

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Yes, global warming supposedly caused the jet stream to push further north. Now, it causes it to push further south. Whatever is convenient for a particular occasion seems to be the sum. Whoever writes this codswallop is doing no favours to the pro debate, which could have some credibility only for this constant junk and misleading information that is continuously being churned out by them.

I blame the mass media - they are commissioning and publishing the more sensationalist claims in recent years to grab them a bigger audience since their advertising revenues have been decimated by the Internet. Credible onjective journalism and sources seems to have taken a back seat to revenue generating hyperbole.

adamski8 · 20-04-2010 04:33PM

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Can anyone see any visual evidence of the ash cloud over us at the mo? Here we just have the standard fair weather looking sky with some flattened cumulus although the blue in between does look a bit milky, although that in itself is not out of the norm.

Thought the sunset yesterday was very orange/red. havent heard other people mention they have seen this even though it was predicited. Could have been a normal one though.

Su Campu · 20-04-2010 04:38PM

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Was only a matter of time before this came up:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18794-blame-the-volcano-trouble-on-sun-and-global-warming.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

Apparently, global warming causes more blocking patterns to develop. This is the same global warming that supposedly caused the very same blocking patterns to be diminished just a few months ago. :rolleyes:

I'm surprised they haven't found a link to GW actually being the cause of the eruption, but give them time!

Meanwhile, it would appear we may need to get used to more activity in the next few decades...

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18786-get-ready-for-decades-of-icelandic-fireworks.html

Sponge Bob · 20-04-2010 04:57PM

Su Campu wrote: »

I'm surprised they haven't found a link to GW actually being the cause of the eruption, but give them time!

I have heard of "Climate Induced Volcanism" , naturally only when it warms

Anyway this is a more likely scenario. Katla ( Ole Dirty Bastard) was the cause of the last kick of the Ice Age called the Younger Dryas. Lets say Katla erupts in April or May ( oops)

Note that a perfect Icelandic Low is prediced along with the Azores High Next week by the GFS ( in the warm weather thread in this forum)

Dust therefore covers Greenland, ice cap melts in high summer sun as the Ice Cap Albedo changes ...even with some dust about still.

Energetic Labrador current cuts off Gulf Stream around Florida, too strong.

Europe is plunged into sudden cooling for years until fresh white snow covers Greenland.

But that will be blamed on global warming for generating a strong Azores high and compressing the Icelandic Low....even though we are all shaggin FREEZING our nads off then even in our perfect green houses coz the heat exchangers no longer work due to permfrost etc

Feckin cult I tells yiz

Su Campu · 20-04-2010 04:59PM

Thanks, but I'll still call it Enya if you don't mind!

Click here

Pangea · 20-04-2010 05:35PM

Well has anyone seen any spectactular sunsets because of the ash ?
Its been going on a week now the eruptions ,I wonder will the weather start to be affected?

snow ghost · 20-04-2010 05:43PM

Pangea wrote: »

Well has anyone seen any spectactular sunsets because of the ash ?
Its been going on a week now the eruptions ,I wonder will the weather start to be affected?

Saw a couple of sunsets that seemed more rusty orange than usual - tbh normal red sunsets are more spectacular.

Don't know if it will effect the weather - but news is coming in of a giant ash iceberg being spotted off the coast of Donegal. :eek:

sunbabe08 · 20-04-2010 05:43PM

ahhhhh forgot i had a load of programmes on volcanos on my t.v

since we're in the current climate. might as well watch them

lord lucan · 20-04-2010 06:08PM

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Yes, global warming supposedly caused the jet stream to push further north. Now, it causes it to push further south. Whatever is convenient for a particular occasion seems to be the sum. Whoever writes this codswallop is doing no favours to the pro debate, which could have some credibility only for this constant junk and misleading information that is continuously being churned out by them.

Amen to that!:)

Su Campu · 20-04-2010 06:21PM

snow ghost wrote: »

Saw a couple of sunsets that seemed more rusty orange than usual - tbh normal red sunsets are more spectacular.

Don't know if it will effect the weather - but news is coming in of a giant ash iceberg being spotted off the coast of Donegal. :eek:

....and is heading straight for Coleraine!

snow ghost · 20-04-2010 06:25PM

Su Campu wrote: »

....and is heading straight for Coleraine!

Latest is it isn't an iceberg afterall - it's just Scotland!

What's the story with BA planes trying to fly into Heathrow??? A few of the Airlines rebelling!

Webmonkey · 20-04-2010 06:26PM

snow ghost wrote: »

Latest is it isn't an iceberg afterall - it's just Scotland!

What's the story with BA planes trying to fly into Heathrow??? A few of the Airlines rebelling!

RTE news says that they don't have permission to land.

19.05 British officials say BA do not have permission to land planes at Heathrow tonight.

Iancar29 · 20-04-2010 06:27PM

The sunsets that i have been taking pictures of lately seem to be more orange than usual... hopefully wit the high pressure system due to come from the weekend we will see a few more good ones.

Ill be goin to the phoenix park wit my tripod if they keep up.

Ill post a few afterwards if they turn out well :cool:

irish1967 · 20-04-2010 06:28PM

Dear god !! look at the BA flight off the coast of mayo... 360 turn and now its heading back out to the Atlantic !! whats going on !!

mickger844posts · 20-04-2010 06:29PM

Very interesting development in the Irish Sea over the Isle of Man now. Looks like British Airways flight BAW17V from Denver to Heathrow is going round in circles check it out here http://www.flightradar24.com/. According to Skynews BA had 26 long haul flights due to land in Heathrow tonight but they did'nt get clearance to land them as the skies are still closed. BAW84 has just joined the fun

Webmonkey · 20-04-2010 06:31PM

Thats crazy. Did I read somewhere they can land in Shannon if not allowed in London. Though It dodgy landing in Shannon too

snow ghost · 20-04-2010 06:37PM

It case anyone doesn't know there is a documentary on RTE 2 at the moment about the snow storms of 1962, etc.

irish1967 · 20-04-2010 06:37PM

Now up to 5 BA jumbos circling over irish sea and west coast !!

Webmonkey · 20-04-2010 06:37PM

irish1967 wrote: »

Now up to 5 BA jumbos circling over irish sea and west coast !!

Yeah theres a load of them!

irish1967 · 20-04-2010 06:40PM

Listening to ATC they are heading for Shannon ! Bring them plans here Willie !! lol

Su Campu · 20-04-2010 06:42PM

And more strangely there's an easyJet on what looks like a drunken walk home from the pub, well below the 20,000ft ceiling, was cruising at 8,000ft a minute ago, now descending. He may be conducting a flight test...

ch750536 · 20-04-2010 06:47PM

Vegas to heathrow

ch750536 · 20-04-2010 06:49PM

San Francisco to heathrow

The Iceland Volcano Thread

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