Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Boggles · 08-04-2010 10:03AM

Ush1 wrote: »

That it's something they already have? A striker happy to sit on the bench?

You think Berbatov is happy to sit on the bench?

Ush1 · 08-04-2010 10:04AM

Boggles wrote: »

You think Berbatov is happy to sit on the bench?

Haven't seen anything to indicate otherwise, unless you're going to suddenly enlighten me?

Boggles · 08-04-2010 10:06AM

Ush1 wrote: »

Haven't seen anything to indicate otherwise, unless you're going to suddenly enlighten me?

What have you seen that indicates he is happy to sit on the bench?

Ush1 · 08-04-2010 10:10AM

Boggles wrote: »

What have you seen that indicates he is happy to sit on the bench?

The fact that he's been there quite a while(on the bench). Haven't heard anything from the player or his agent kicking up a fuss, usual disconcerted player being benched stuff. United having been playing a single striker for quite a while now with Rooney being clear first choice. It's not looking like he'll be starting anytime soon unless Rooneys leg is hanging off.

MagicMarker · 08-04-2010 10:11AM

Ush1 wrote: »

The fact that he's been there quite a while(on the bench). Haven't heard anything from the player or his agent kicking up a fuss, usual disconcerted player being benched stuff. United having been playing a single striker for quite a while now with Rooney being clear first choice. It's not looking like he'll be starting anytime soon unless Rooneys leg is hanging off.

So he hasn't expressed his unhappiness, ergo he must be happy?

Superb logic there.

Spiritoftheseventies · 08-04-2010 10:12AM

Just wonder if leaving Scholes out was good idea. He can be late with few tackles but overall he gets stuck in and distribution is very good.

Ush1 · 08-04-2010 10:13AM

MagicMarker wrote: »

So he hasn't expressed his unhappiness, ergo he must be happy?

Superb logic there.

So do you think he's angling for a move then, or going to persuade Ferguson to change his formation?
It's quite sound logic tbh since most benched players express displeasure at being benched or will just leave.

neil_18_ · 08-04-2010 10:14AM

What makes losing worse was that the Spurs match didnt need to be changed to Saturday and it wouldnt have cost me an extra €200

Very disappointed with last night, I would have put Macheda on for Rooney when we were on top. All the running Macheda did against Chelsea, and he always seemed to be sniffing around the box too.
Could have used that last night.

Mikeyt086 · 08-04-2010 10:14AM

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Just wonder if leaving Scholes out was good idea. He can be late with few tackles but overall he gets stuck in and distribution is very good.

He has been very poor in big games recently, Bayern last week included, plus he had started the last 2 games before.

I would have loved him instead of Carrick but apparently Fergie doesnt see the damage Carrick has been doing to us of late.

Boggles · 08-04-2010 10:14AM

Ush1 wrote: »

The fact that he's been there quite a while(on the bench). Haven't heard anything from the player or his agent kicking up a fuss, usual disconcerted player being benched stuff. United having been playing a single striker for quite a while now with Rooney being clear first choice. It's not looking like he'll be starting anytime soon unless Rooneys leg is hanging off.

Priceless.

goddevil · 08-04-2010 10:15AM

Ush1 wrote: »

The fact that he's been there quite a while(on the bench). Haven't heard anything from the player or his agent kicking up a fuss, usual disconcerted player being benched stuff.

Great logic there:rolleyes:.. May be you haven't had a player who's happy to do whatever it takes for the team to do well.. May be you haven't had the likes of Solskjaer in your teams...

Ush1 · 08-04-2010 10:16AM

Boggles wrote: »

Priceless.

Good retort.
He'd rather start a non fit Rooney in a crucial European tie than start Berbatov, the 30m signing. What would you think if you were Berbatov?

Spiritoftheseventies · 08-04-2010 10:17AM

Seems to be a bit of a problem at right full. Olic goal was very soft and against Chelsea, United had their problems there to.

Mitch Connor · 08-04-2010 10:17AM

my transfer picks for the summer would probably be the following:

Rodwell, Milner and Gourcuff. However, you'd probably be looking at a combined fee of 60million (maybe more) so that Ronaldo money would have to be available.

As regards a striking option, it depends on what Fergie's real opinion of Kiko and Diouf are, imo.

Boggles · 08-04-2010 10:18AM

Ush1 wrote: »

Good retort.

He'd rather start a non fit Rooney in a crucial European tie than start Berbatov, the 30m signing. What would you think if you were Berbatov?

Hang on now. Stick with what you are saying.

Berbatov is happy to sit on the bench.

Your evidence. "His agent hasn't said anything to the press"

As I said priceless. :rolleyes:

Boggles · 08-04-2010 10:18AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

my transfer picks for the summer would probably be the following:

Rodwell, Milner and Gourcuff. However, you'd probably be looking at a combined fee of 60million (maybe more) so that Ronaldo money would have to be available.

As regards a striking option, it depends on what Fergie's real opinion of Kiko and Diouf are, imo.

Not writing him off, but Gourcuff up against it last night went missing.

What we need is ready made class.

I'd like Milner alright, he is not going to make the midfield tick though.

Ush1 · 08-04-2010 10:20AM

goddevil wrote: »

Great logic there:rolleyes:.. May be you haven't had a player who's happy to do whatever it takes for the team to do well.. May be you haven't had the likes of Solskjaer in your teams...

Oh so now you're going for euphemism. Irrelevant about the team doing well. Most players want to play every game and rightfully so.

Mitch Connor · 08-04-2010 10:20AM

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Seems to be a bit of a problem at right full. Olic goal was very soft and against Chelsea, United had their problems there to.

Personally, I'm not worried about it. not so much that I would be looking to make a signing there.

Rafael is promising. Yes he has made mistakes, but that will happen with a young player. I would more (EDIT TO ADD 'look') look at the performance he put in while he was playing last night - he was brilliant vs Ribery, only really got the better of him once, and that resulted in the sending off, which was disappointing. On top of that, you have injuries to the two other 'first choice' right backs in Brown and O'Shea. So at the moment we are picking between a potentially great, but inexperienced and our, possibly, 4th choice right back. Sure, there have been issues there in recent weeks, but given the options it isn't that surprising, or worrying imo.

Vanbis · 08-04-2010 10:21AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

my transfer picks for the summer would probably be the following:

Rodwell, Milner and Gourcuff. However, you'd probably be looking at a combined fee of 60million (maybe more) so that Ronaldo money would have to be available.

As regards a striking option, it depends on what Fergie's real opinion of Kiko and Diouf are, imo.

In:
Benezma
Ribery
Diego
L. Diarra

Out:
Berbatov
Carrick
Owen
Neville
Foster
kusak

Ush1 · 08-04-2010 10:22AM

Boggles wrote: »

Hang on now. Stick with what you are saying.

Berbatov is happy to sit on the bench.

Your evidence. "His agent hasn't said anything to the press"

As I said priceless. :rolleyes:

No maybe you should read it again. My evidence is also that he's still on the bench. He's been in and out of the team for 2 seasons, so unless he's not happy, why hasn't he left?

Boggles · 08-04-2010 10:22AM

Vanbis wrote: »

In:
Benezma
Ribery
Diego
L. Diarra

Out:
Berbatov
Carrick
Owen
Neville
Foster
kusak

Just the one 40 year old goal keeper for next season then?

neil_18_ · 08-04-2010 10:23AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Personally, I'm not worried about it. not so much that I would be looking to make a signing there.

Rafael is promising. Yes he has made mistakes, but that will happen with a young player. I would more at the performance he put in while he was playing last night - he was brilliant vs Ribery, only really got the better of him once, and that resulted in the sending off, which was disappointing. On top of that, you have injuries to the two other 'first choice' right backs in Brown and O'Shea. So at the moment we are picking between a potentially great, but inexperienced and our, possibly, 4th choice right back. Sure, there have been issues there in recent weeks, but given the options it isn't that surprising, or worrying imo.

Have to agree. I'm pretty sure there has been at least one occurance when Rooney was sent off and pretty much cost us a game?

He's much more mature now.

Rafael will only learn from that mistake.

Ush1 · 08-04-2010 10:23AM

Vanbis wrote: »

In:
Benezma
Ribery
Diego
L. Diarra

Out:
Berbatov
Carrick
Owen
Neville
Foster
kusak

Pricey.

Mitch Connor · 08-04-2010 10:24AM

Boggles wrote: »

Not writing him off, but Gourcuff up against it last night went missing.

What we need is ready made class.

I'd like Milner alright, he is not going to make the midfield tick though.

Ready made class in the AMC role will cost a record fee - and I can't really think of one we could get. Iniesta, Kaka, Gerrard, Lampard, Sneijder... who else? (none of them gettable imo) Maybe van der Vaart? Next in line that I can think of would be the likes of Hamsik and Gourcuff, maybe Diego too. Modric is another you could look at as well, and would have the advantage of premiership experience. However, he is a spurs player so would cost a fortune and turn out to be crap !! ;-D

If we go for an AMC, i don't think we can get ready made class - we have to look at someone approaching that level at best imo.

EDIT: As for Milner, no - he wouldn't make the midfield tick, but he would be a good option on both flanks and can play AMC or MC too. If required he can do a job in the full back positions too. He is a talented player but also very, very versatile so would be a very good addition to the squad (and rumours hinted last week that we are looking to sign him)

Vanbis · 08-04-2010 10:25AM

Boggles wrote: »

Just the one 40 year old goal keeper for next season then?

I forgot about that, CSKA goalkeeper or Schalke goalkeeper would be nice. We need major investment in the squad and need to add quality.

Boggles · 08-04-2010 10:25AM

Ush1 wrote: »

No maybe you should read it again. My evidence is also that he's still on the bench. He's been in and out of the team for 2 seasons, so unless he's not happy, why hasn't he left?

Sorry gona pass you over, I can't deal with utter stupidity today.

For your sake I hope you just trying to a rise and you don't believe the shíté that your inflicting on the forum.

Ush1 · 08-04-2010 10:26AM

Boggles wrote: »

Sorry gona pass you over, I can't deal with utter stupidity today.

For your sake I hope you just trying to a rise and you don't believe the shíté that your inflicting on the forum.

Again, excellent retort.:rolleyes:
And lmao @ getting a rise coming from you.

Mitch Connor · 08-04-2010 10:27AM

Ush1 wrote: »

Pricey.

indeed - looking at 100million plus quite easily there.

Boggles · 08-04-2010 10:27AM

Vanbis wrote: »

In:
Benezma
Ribery
Diego
L. Diarra

Benezma, 9-10 months into his contract??
Diego 9-10 months into his contract?
Ribery - Not worth the money
Diarra - Just no.

saltie · 08-04-2010 10:29AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

my transfer picks for the summer would probably be the following:

Rodwell, Milner and Gourcuff. However, you'd probably be looking at a combined fee of 60million (maybe more) so that Ronaldo money would have to be available.

As regards a striking option, it depends on what Fergie's real opinion of Kiko and Diouf are, imo.

Rodwell eh. As a toffee fan here how much are you willing to pay for him? SIgned a 5 year deal this season, only potential, big potential but still..

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