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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Fergie is complaining about the amount of time Rooney played, not that he played. Rooney should have been taken off after 60, like other players were. Capello should not have played him for near 90 minutes.

    exactly

    Scholes reaching 100 prem goals today, well done ginger!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    My housemate is a Chelsea fan, it felt so good showing her who's on top... Buggers!

    Hope they lose/draw their next game!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,021 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    sunday papers have us in for joe cole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,574 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Headshot wrote: »
    sunday papers have us in for joe cole.
    bigger story is Pini Zhavi or whatever his name is (super agent fella) being behind a bid to buy United (In NOTW).

    Not sure about the Joe Cole stuff at all. I'm just not sure about him as a player at this point, feel it might be a transfer 2 years late, and one done primarily because he would be a 'free' transfer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,784 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    joe cole would be a brilliant signing for you lot imo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,021 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    bigger story is Pini Zhavi or whatever his name is (super agent fella) being behind a bid to buy United (In NOTW).
    .
    Rio's agent?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Id love Joe Cole :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Headshot wrote: »
    sunday papers have us in for joe cole.

    normal paper talk tbh

    high profile player, english, out of contract, the type of midfielder we would be looking for, be surprised if we werent looking at him for real actually, but i doubt it and i think it may be a bit too late for him now

    would have loved him 2-3 years ago alright

    whats this about the super agent being behind a takeover bid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,574 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Headshot wrote: »
    Rio's agent?

    yep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,021 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    yep.

    Any link to story mitch?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,574 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Headshot wrote: »
    Any link to story mitch?

    nothing yet - just saw it on SkySportsNews in their morning paper round up. Haven't been able to find an online edition of it yet.

    It was the main story on the back page of the News of the World. So it is probably rubbish. They also had a 1billion figure attached, which is too low imo.

    Could be talking about bids that were already made. There was a city financier saying two bids had recently been put to united, from China and Dubai (i think), that were rejected out of hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,021 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    that was the people newspaper with rio's agent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,574 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Headshot wrote: »
    that was the people newspaper with rio's agent

    ok, fair enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭Degag


    Signing Joe Cole isn't beyond the realms of possibility because AFAIK we can legally talk to him since January 1st.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Degag wrote: »
    Signing Joe Cole isn't beyond the realms of possibility because AFAIK we can legally talk to him since January 1st.

    Foreign clubs can legally sign him but anyone can talk to him. if he agrees a deal with united he wont play for chelsea again this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭Degag


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Foreign clubs can legally sign him but anyone can talk to him. if he agrees a deal with united he wont play for chelsea again this season.

    Eh, think we are on the same page but: Any club can sign him at the end of his contract for free. Also, any club can hold talks with him in the last 6 months of his contract. Also, he is free to play for Chelsea until July 1st if he signs on a pre-contract agreement, whether Chelsea would play him is a different matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Foreign clubs can legally sign him but anyone can talk to him. if he agrees a deal with united he wont play for chelsea again this season.

    anyone can talk to him when there was 6 months left on his deal, he can sign a pre contract agreement with any teams, and he is still going to be a Chelsea player till the end of his contract


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    Really hope you take Cole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    CHD wrote: »
    Really hope you take Cole.

    tell you what, we will take Cole, but only if you throw in Essien as part of the deal, sure hes a crock anyway and isnt any good to ye anymore is he

    we will even give you Carrick as part of the deal, ye cant lose

    since Carrick came to united we have won 3 leagues in a row, and the champions league

    what do ya say?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    CHD wrote: »
    So someone raises a point and you fob it off by insinuating the poster is drunk, for shame.


    no insinuation, just a question

    more fun if he sober in fact


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    kryogen wrote: »
    tell you what, we will take Cole, but only if you throw in Essien as part of the deal, sure hes a crock anyway and isnt any good to ye anymore is he

    we will even give you Carrick as part of the deal, ye cant lose

    since Carrick came to united we have won 3 leagues in a row, and the champions league

    what do ya say?
    I say we Don't want Carrick. You can't have Essien but by all means take J.Cole and pay him 100k a week to do a few flicks and stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    CHD wrote: »
    I say we Don't want Carrick. You can't have Essien but by all means take J.Cole and pay him 100k a week to do a few flicks and stuff.

    no deal so, Cole and Essien together are worth the beast that is Carrick, no deal unless we get both


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    kryogen wrote: »
    no deal so, Cole and Essien together are worth the beast that is Carrick, no deal unless we get both
    Are you saying Carrick is world class?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,021 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Headshot wrote: »
    that was the people newspaper with rio's agent
    RIO FERDINAND AGENT'S £1BN UTD BID
    Mr Fixit Zahavi fronting shock Glazer buy-out
    Alan Nixon

    Rio Ferdinand's agent Pini Zahavi is behind a shock £1bn bid to buy Manchester United from the Glazer family.

    Israeli wheeler-dealer Zahavi is a long-term advisor to United skipper Ferdinand (far left) and a pal of boss Sir Alex Ferguson.

    And the veteran agent has got together a team of foreign investors who have stashed the staggering 10-figure sum in a Swiss bank account for the project.

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    Zahavi is the man behind several big-money Premier League buy-outs and was responsible for bringing Roman Abramovich to Chelsea. He moves in powerful circles and has connections around the globe.

    His bidders have hard cash and have already produced proof of funds - which is more than can be said for the Red Knights group. There is still no sign that the Glazers want to sell but the Americans are taking Zahavi's group seriously .

    The Glazers - hated by most United fans - have an auction going and cannot lose.

    The asking price will be at least £1bn, which would give them a healthy profit.

    While Keith Harris and his high-profile Red Knights have made their plans public, Zahavi and his investors are operating in secrecy. There are no clues to where the money has come from, but Zahavi has access to some of the world's wealthiest men.

    Their identities would have to be disclosed if the United bid progresses.

    While Zahavi's match-making between Chelsea and Abramovich was an unqualified success, his attempts to inject Israeli and Arab money at Portsmouth back-fired, with the club in big financial trouble.

    United and the Glazers would need to know more about the background of Zahavi's investors before dealing with them.

    However, Zahavi has good relations at United through his friendship with Ferguson and his help in landing Ferdinand and Juan Sebastian Veron.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/mar/07/alex-ferguson-manchester-united-buyout

    Senior City financiers allied to the wealthy consortium planning a takeover of Manchester United claim Sir Alex Ferguson is supporting the controversial bid.

    Several key sources have told the Observer that they believe that the Old Trafford manager would be prepared to invest his own money in the club if the bid by the group known as the "Red Knights" were to succeed.

    "Alex Ferguson is not only supportive of the bid but would be prepared, if successful, to back it," claimed one source who described it as a "killer blow" for the American Glazer family who bought the club in 2005 and who are now facing massive protests from fans because of the club's debts.

    Another senior City figure, who also requested anonymity, said: "We all know we have his support, that he likes the people involved, but we can't embarrass him."

    Last night Ferguson furiously denied that he was supporting the buyout in any way. "It's absolute rubbish. Not an ounce of truth in it," he said.

    A spokesman for the Red Knights refused to discuss Ferguson's position. Leading their bid is Jim O'Neill, chief economist of Goldman Sachs, a member of the United board before the Glazer takeover and a close friend of the United manager. O'Neill has angered the Glazers by criticising the debt United have been forced to carry.

    Any sign of Ferguson's support would galvanise the takeover bid which could see Manchester United being sold for as much as £1.2bn even though the Glazer family consistently say the club is not for sale. The latest figures show that it has debts of £716m.

    The Observer's revelation of these claims will raise the stakes at a sensitive stage in the bid but may encourage some of the wealthy waverers who have shown tentative interest in signing up to the consortium.

    Ferguson has declined to attack the Red Knights' plans, saying they were entitled to protest against the Glazers. He said: "I know some of them, I'm quite friendly with a couple of them. If they want to try to buy the club, it's entirely up to them." But he has never criticised the US owners of United despite allegations from fans that his transfer kitty is being affected as money is draining out of the club to service its huge debt.

    Last month the United manager told the Observer: "I've got owners who have never caused me any bother. Any time I've asked for money they've given it to us. The Glazers have been fine with me, I've never had any problem."

    The club's chief executive, David Gill, has said a takeover from the Red Knights would be unworkable while adding he was "confident" that the Glazer family retain the support of Ferguson.

    Yet those close to the consortium claim they would not have launched their audacious bid to buy United without believing the manager was behind them.

    High-profile figures involved in the Red Knights include investment banker Keith Harris who has called on fans to boycott games.

    Yesterday it also emerged that another City grandee had joined the team. The former chief executive of Centrica, Sir Roy Gardner, is said to have emerged as another investor.

    Gardner, a former chairman of Manchester United, resigned soon after Malcom Glazer took control of the club for £800m in 2005.

    Since the Red Knights' takeover plans emerged last Monday, the Manchester United Supporters' Trust has seen membership soar in a show of support for the potential new owners.

    Last night membership was inching towards 120,000 – more than double the figure when the Red Knights bid was announced. Many fans are angry over rising ticket prices in tandem with the amount of money being taken out of the club by the Glazers to service the debt.

    Ferguson is attempting to guide United towards an unprecedented fourth consecutive Premier League crown and a third Champions League final in a row, an achievement never before realised by a British club.

    The manager, who has won 26 trophies in 24 years at Old Trafford, has refused to criticise fans wearing gold and green scarves, which symbolise opposition to the Glazers, saying "all sinners welcome".

    The campaign, based on the colours of United's forerunners, Newton Heath, was conceived as a visible statement against the club's US owners and the growing level of anti-Glazer sentiment is evident in their rising presence on the terraces.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    the part about Fergie smells of serious bull**** in fairness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    RIO FERDINAND AGENT'S £1BN UTD BID
    Mr Fixit Zahavi fronting shock Glazer buy-out
    Alan Nixon
    RIO FERDINAND AGENT'S £1BN UTD BID
    Mr Fixit Zahavi fronting shock Glazer buy-out
    Alan Nixon
    RIO FERDINAND AGENT'S £1BN UTD BID
    Mr Fixit Zahavi fronting shock Glazer buy-out
    Alan Nixon

    Yeah Great news, he's a big united fan , definitely only in it for his love of the club, He won't want to be making a profit on his investments like those naughty Glazers.

    Really lads a lot fans would really want to wake up and see whats going on here and have a serious thinks about what they are really supporting with the current anti glazer campaign.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Yeah Great news, he's a big united fan , definitely only in it for his love of the club, He won't want to be manking a profit on his investments like those naughty Glazers.

    Reall lads a lot fans would really want to wake up and see whats going on here and have a serious thinks about what they are really supporting with the current anti glazer campaign.

    Better the devil you know perhaps.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Better the devil you know perhaps.

    Exactly , we know the Galzers and what they have done to the Club, I certainly don't want Man United to be opwned by Agents, they've done nothing but bleed money from the game via players, looks like that's not enough for them they are now focusing on Clubs. The saddest part for me is that fans are doing their dirty work for them without knowing who or what they are really supporting. It's not good.


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