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  • #62
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,537 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I got listening to the show this evening using mailforkev's download. It was good but with a few 'bloopers' such as the one Mike mentioned.
    I'll certainly listen in again!
    ronanc15 wrote: »
    Daragh,

    VRT is also an issue I would like to see addressed, and maybe if available some stats into how the money paid into the VRT and Tax system is actually used. That may be one to keep the researchers busy :D
    See my previous post!

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  • #63
    Pdfile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Great to have some motoring content on the radio. Hopefully you won't be recommending everyone buy an Octavia


    but we'll then have to buy alfa's


    colm... do us a turn and save me the pain... *hands a loaded gun over *


    OT: will start listening in... see if any boards traits are rubbed off and to see if its any use.


  • #64
    Stephen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    will you be making the program available via podcasts?

    +1


  • #65
    JJJJNR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,786 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    A subject I'd like to see covered would be the use of winter tyres in Ireland, I think we have the climate for winters, maybe a good time to inform the public that there is such a thing.


  • #66
    ronanc15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭ronanc15


    kbannon wrote: »
    I got listening to the show this evening using mailforkev's download. It was good but with a few 'bloopers' such as the one Mike mentioned.
    I'll certainly listen in again!

    See my previous post!


    My bad! Well maybe seeing as its so f'ing expensive they could share some wealth and splash out on the roads!


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  • #67
    Motor Mouth: Daragh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Motor Mouth: Daragh


    We'll be talking about the NCT on Monday - going through the pros and the cons, anyone have any thing in particular you want mentioned?

    Have a great weekend,
    Daragh


  • #68
    Berty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,197 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Motor Mouth (Daragh) wrote: »
    We'll be talking about the NCT on Monday - going through the pros and the cons, anyone have any thing in particular you want mentioned?

    Have a great weekend,
    Daragh

    Hi Darragh,

    When will it be, like the UK, that we will have private garage's doing our NCT's for us like the DOE for commerical vehicles?

    I would like a breakdown of their pricing structure as I feel that it is overpriced.

    Please ask them to clarify if the test is in fact FREE if you are over 4 weeks waiting.

    What are the limitations in relation to the above where they can ask you to take it in another centre. In relation to non urban areas where test centre's could be up to 60 miles apart.


  • #69
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,766 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I'll play a bit of devil's advocate on the NCT :)
    Berty wrote: »
    When will it be, like the UK, that we will have private garage's doing our NCT's for us

    I hope never. Having your local mate the mechanic saying yes or no is the most corruptible situation you could be in. The NCT is standardised so all cars have to pass the same objective (and published) tests using the same machines. And it provides proof: the printed test results you receive whether your car has passed or failed.
    Berty wrote: »
    I would like a breakdown of their pricing structure as I feel that it is overpriced.

    A full safety check of your car for €50 is a bargain. This price is only possible because of the economy of scales (surely hundreds of thousands of cars are tested every year) and the complete standardisation. And of course the efficiency of the conveyor belt style of testing.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #70
    Berty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,197 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    unkel wrote: »
    A full safety check of your car for €50 is a bargain. This price is only possible because of the economy of scales (surely hundreds of thousands of cars are tested every year) and the complete standardisation. And of course the efficiency of the conveyor belt style of testing.

    Full safety check. Not quite what you consider good value for me really. If your tyres are 1 mm away from needing new one's they wont tell you because it's a pass. If your brake pads are looking low they wont tell you as long as they pass. They wont tell you anything about your car unless it fails. Now you may say that's fine but that's fine for the NCT but not exactly a safety check really is it.

    It's pretty black and white. Pass or fail and we wont tell you anything else.

    Very much like the driving instructors. They tell you that you failed on, lets say road positioning, but wont explain in detail why. They simply say "go back to your instructor and he/she will tell you". Stupid really because you have passed(only failing on that) so why the heck would you bother with an instructor in that case.

    So €50 is good value to be told your car has failed.

    How many cars do they test per day nationwide? I would imagine the €50 is an excessive price. My former company charged €110 per 1st hour(even if it takes 15 minutes) and that has to cover diesel getting there and back. The NCT guys don't go anywhere and use nothing more than a flashlight and their eyes to test the car.


  • #71
    Thoie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Things I'd be interested in (though I accept other people might not).

    • The practicalities of owning an electric car, using various sample cases (Mary-Kate who lives in a big bungalow up a hill, drives to the big town once a week for groceries vs Mark who lives in an apartment and commutes 60km a day)
    • Tips on car maintenance
    • Finding out what the RSA actually does
    • Finding out what the NRA plans to do with junctions that they have now made dangerous (M50 J9 northbound exit to N7, amongst others)
    • Plans for rest areas on intercity motorways
    • Car modifications - useful and aesthetically pleasing mods vs bluetacking a spoiler somewhere
    • Buying a used car - what to expect and what to look for
    • The small print of insurance policies


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  • #72
    Tragedy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    unkel wrote: »

    I hope never. Having your local mate the mechanic saying yes or no is the most corruptible situation you could be in. The NCT is standardised so all cars have to pass the same objective (and published) tests using the same machines. And it provides proof: the printed test results you receive whether your car has passed or failed.
    How is that any different to the MOT?
    The MOT is standardised and provides proof with printed test results.


  • #73
    Berty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,197 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    I'd Also like to know where the incentives for using Bio-Fuel is.

    I have a bio-ethanol car and the fuel costs €0.98c per litre and does around 24mpg. Diesel is €1.11c per litre and does around 40mpg.

    Why should I keep using bio-ethanol when I can get petrol for €1.24 and get 30mpg?


  • #74
    Thoie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Motor Mouth (Daragh) wrote: »
    We'll be talking about the NCT on Monday - going through the pros and the cons, anyone have any thing in particular you want mentioned?

    I'd like to know why they can't sent out reminder notices/emails like every other company manages to do. Their FAQ is disingenuous at best:
    6. Will I be notified when my test is due?

    If your car is eligible for the NCT then please phone us on 1890 412 413 or you can check our on-line service by simply typing in your car registration number and date of first registration of the vehicle (which can be found on your vehicle registration book, registration certificate or licensing certificate.


  • #75
    Motor Mouth: Daragh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Motor Mouth: Daragh


    Thanks Thoie, we'll proabably use a few of these over the next few weeks.

    Also, thanks to everyone for their comments on road tax and NCT - we used a lot of them during the last two shows.

    This week we'll be taking a luck at bad road habits. Any takers? I know there are a lot of bad habits out there but if anything in particular annoys you would you let me know? We'll also try and get some stats on how many accidents happen on account of these bad habits.

    Be good,
    Daragh
    Thoie wrote: »
    Things I'd be interested in (though I accept other people might not).
    • The practicalities of owning an electric car, using various sample cases (Mary-Kate who lives in a big bungalow up a hill, drives to the big town once a week for groceries vs Mark who lives in an apartment and commutes 60km a day)
    • Tips on car maintenance
    • Finding out what the RSA actually does
    • Finding out what the NRA plans to do with junctions that they have now made dangerous (M50 J9 northbound exit to N7, amongst others)
    • Plans for rest areas on intercity motorways
    • Car modifications - useful and aesthetically pleasing mods vs bluetacking a spoiler somewhere
    • Buying a used car - what to expect and what to look for
    • The small print of insurance policies


  • #76
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,740 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Not indicating
    throwing rubbish /cigs out the window
    rolling backwards when taking off from lights etc (I don't mean by an inch or two, by a foot or two!)
    tailgaiting
    not turning lights on/off as appropriate


  • #77
    Berty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,197 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Lane Discipline

    Also indicating especially on roundabouts.
    Doing hair and makeup in car.

    My biggest pet hate. Children travelling without seat belts and standing up between the seats.


  • #78
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The lack of understanding about the outside lane being the overtaking lane, not the "fast lane", lack of indicating on roundabouts (its amazing how much smoother traffic moves if people indicate before exiting). Being in gear when the lights turn green, its not hard to know when the lights will turn green for you, so why not be ready? (please!)


  • #79
    Motor Mouth: Daragh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Motor Mouth: Daragh


    Yeah Mike - the fast lane thing annoys the sh**e out of me. Have you seen the M50 recently. Three lanes, and very few cars on the inside lane.

    Why does it happen do you reckon? Should more time be spent on road education (which we'll be looking at in the future btw) - for school kids and for adults.

    I mean, there are very few roads in Ireland with three lanes, should the RSA, for example, send out something like a leaflet (as a start) to all road tax payers explaining how to use both the two and three lane system?


  • #80
    R.O.R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,774 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Motor Mouth (Daragh) wrote: »
    Yeah Mike - the fast lane thing annoys the sh**e out of me. Have you seen the M50 recently. Three lanes, and very few cars on the outside lane.

    That's the way it should be! Surely you mean the inside (or my lane as I sometimes call it) lane?


  • #81
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,740 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Motor Mouth (Daragh) wrote: »
    Yeah Mike - the fast lane thing annoys the sh**e out of me. Have you seen the M50 recently. Three lanes, and very few cars on the outside lane.

    thats the way it should be.:D

    I take it you mean the inside lane, the leftmost lane of any road is the inside or driving lane, any to the right are outside or overtaking lanes

    EDIT: ROR beat me too it


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  • #82
    Motor Mouth: Daragh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Motor Mouth: Daragh


    Sorry about that!

    Any opinions though, as to why it happens?


  • #83
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Its basic lack of education, its all the worse when there is a right turn on the section of road in question and someone will just sit there cos they will be turning right - eventually!


  • #84
    R.O.R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,774 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Motor Mouth (Daragh) wrote: »
    Sorry about that!

    Any opinions though, as to why it happens?

    Plenty, but non that will get through the language filter.

    It's poor instruction to start with, and even poorer enforcement in my opinion.

    When motorways were introduced in the UK, they made several public information films about how to drive on them (so I believe, I'm not that old). In Ireland, they updated the ROTR, but if you've already passed your test why would you read that again?


  • #85
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,740 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Motor Mouth (Daragh) wrote: »
    Sorry about that!

    Any opinions though, as to why it happens?

    the lack of any motorway driving as part of the test and hence no motorway driving lessons would be a major factor IMO, though there is no reason why DC should not be used in testing/lessons where available


  • #86
    GTE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,887 ✭✭✭GTE


    Something that is bugging the hell out of me right now is the motor tax system.

    If my car puts out 143 grams of CO2 per kilometre then I should pay the tax band C motor tax, not the 582 that I do have to pay because I have an older car.

    If you could have someone who represents the powers at be for motor tax and ask why the system is the way it is.

    Ohhhhhhhh it bugs me. I can hardly afford my insurance yet alone the tax.


  • #87
    coldwood92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 481 ✭✭coldwood92


    are ye doing a podcast?


  • #88
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Hi Daragh, a bit late for tonights show but could you do something regarding the NRAs inglorious history with regard to service areas on motorways. For years they held out against the very idea (thinking like local public servants) the the grounds they would damage local town/villiage trade. Then finally a change of heart and a dozen were announced, now today all but three have been put on the long finger and I'm not holding my breath that we'll ever see the other nine built. The NRA/Dept of Transport have been a total disgrace on this issue.


  • #89
    Motor Mouth: Daragh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Motor Mouth: Daragh


    mike65 wrote: »
    Hi Daragh, a bit late for tonights show but could you do something regarding the NRAs inglorious history with regard to service areas on motorways. For years they held out against the very idea (thinking like local public servants) the the grounds they would damage local town/villiage trade. Then finally a change of heart and a dozen were announced, now today all but three have been put on the long finger and I'm not holding my breath that we'll ever see the other nine built. The NRA/Dept of Transport have been a total disgrace on this issue.

    Hey Mike, if we have time tonight I'll put it to the panel - just for their opinions. We'll try look at it in full a little further down the road.


  • #90
    d'Oracle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,024 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Not giving way to oncoming traffic when they have to pull into the oncoming lane because of an obstruction in their lane.

    Thats a woeful discription.
    Help me out here.

    Basically I mean when I have to stop because someone in on coming in the wrong lane due to parked cars.


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  • #91
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    what was that tip the guy gave about squeaky windscreen wipers??


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