Flashing in overtaking lane

langdang · 05-02-2010 01:30PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

this has been done to death, but overtaking on the inside encourages idiots to lane hog.

And allowing them to live and roam free encourages them to procreate...

As you can tell I really have no time for time. None. God knows how many years of life and school have failed to educate them on how not to be a waste of space, I'm not wasting my time trying to educate them, sitting behind them when I've better places to be..

JHMEG · 05-02-2010 01:31PM

sesna wrote: »

Flashing at the driver in front for no good reason is not a good idea, as it can dazzle the driver. When I am dazzled and can not see where I am going I have no option but to slam on my brakes, as a safety precaution.

How do you manage at night?

evolutionqy7 · 05-02-2010 01:31PM

sesna wrote: »

I have noticed that the experts on use of the overtake lane strangely seem to have no regard for the law when it comes to the speed-limit.

If I am driving at 120kmp/h on a motorway slowly over-taking cars at 105kmph, I inevitably always get drivers flashing at me or tail-gating me to speed up further and break the speed-limit. I always pull in to the left once I have completed my over-taking and use the over-take lane properly.

Flashing at the driver in front for no good reason is not a good idea, as it can dazzle the driver. When I am dazzled and can not see where I am going I have no option but to slam on my brakes, as a safety precaution.

thats why its usualy the motorway...if u want to driver slow go around the motorways!!! slow drivers should be banned...their the No.1 cause of accidents!!!

colm_mcm · 05-02-2010 01:32PM

langdang wrote: »

And allowing them to live and roam free encourages them to procreate...
As you can tell I really have no time for time. None. God knows how many years of life and school have failed to educate them on how not to be a waste of space, I'm not wasting my time trying to educate them, sitting behind them when I've better places to be..

Nah, I reckon if they're in their own little world, if I flash them and they pull over, they'll probably potter along in that lane for a good while and not inconvenience other drivers (i.e you)

corriganalan · 05-02-2010 01:33PM

Onkle wrote: »

If it's dark I'll throw my indicator on, when I first started doing this I was shocked to see that it worked.

Must try that next time i encounter it!

Martron · 05-02-2010 01:38PM

sesna wrote: »

I have noticed that the experts on use of the overtake lane strangely seem to have no regard for the law when it comes to the speed-limit.

If I am driving at 120kmp/h on a motorway slowly over-taking cars at 105kmph, I inevitably always get drivers flashing at me or tail-gating me to speed up further and break the speed-limit. I always pull in to the left once I have completed my over-taking and use the over-take lane properly.

Flashing at the driver in front for no good reason is not a good idea, as it can dazzle the driver. When I am dazzled and can not see where I am going I have no option but to slam on my brakes, as a safety precaution.

are you crazy? when have you been blinded by a car coming from behind unless you were staring at your rearview mirror for longer than a second? if that is the case you were not looking at the road in the first place. and slamming on your brakes on a motorway is mental.

saftey precaution!!!!!!! i think its this attitude that cause accidents.

Riskymove · 05-02-2010 01:39PM

JHMEG wrote: »

Flashing lights is a valid road signal. It's not aggressive.

that's true but rarely is it the full story

I have often seen something more like flying up until a few feet behind the car, flashing a lot and gesticulating frantically!!:pac:

Nah, I reckon if they're in their own little world, if I flash them and they pull over, they'll probably potter along in that lane for a good while and not inconvenience other drivers (i.e you)

thats the important thing, it might wake them up to what they are doing....might!

Occam · 05-02-2010 01:41PM

sesna wrote: »

If I am driving at 120kmp/h on a motorway slowly over-taking cars at 105kmph,

Not sure how you can slowly overtake traffic that is moving so much more slowly than you. Perhaps you are overtaking a string of cars in one maneuver, which is usually a bad idea.

sesna wrote: »

Flashing at the driver in front for no good reason is not a good idea, as it can dazzle the driver. When I am dazzled and can not see where I am going I have no option but to slam on my brakes, as a safety precaution.

If you are dazzled so easily perhaps you should not be driving at all, or at the very least consult an optician to determine why you are suffering from this.

If you slam on the brakes when you are dazzled you really should get some training to improve your standard of driving. Sudden braking is extremely dangerous to both yourself and other road users, especially if it is not an evasive maneuver in an emergency situation.

red menace · 05-02-2010 01:43PM

Occam wrote: »

Not sure how you can slowly overtake traffic that is moving so much more slowly than you. Perhaps you are overtaking a string of cars in one maneuver, which is usually a bad idea.

If you are dazzled so easily perhaps you should not be driving at all, or at the very least consult an optician to determine why you are suffering from this.

If you slam on the brakes when you are dazzled you really should get some training to improve your standard of driving. Sudden braking is extremely dangerous to both yourself and other road users, especially if it is not an evasive maneuver in an emergency situation.

Is it better than the guys who feels the need to pull in after overtaking every single car even if there is no-one trying to overtake them?

sesna · 05-02-2010 01:44PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

this has been done to death, but overtaking on the inside encourages idiots to lane hog.

What a load of rubbish. firstly how do you get dazzled from a car behind you and secondly how is slamming on the brakes a safety precaution

Firstly, have you heard of a device called a rear view mirror which has the capacity to reflect light?

Secondly, dont be such a predictable puppet

.Longshanks. · 05-02-2010 01:45PM

stealthyspeeder wrote: »

I flash the foglights,
Then the highbeams
Then the indicator
Then undertake

Unless I have a preconcieved, jugemental and predujudiced view that the driver is a prick in which case I jump straight to stage 4.

Yep, same here. I've been driving long enough & covered enough KM's to come to the opinion that 90% of people who drive on the motorways simply do not have a clue how to use the proper lanes.
On the road this morning I twice came up behing a car hogging the overtaking lane on a empty section of motorway (I was in the normal driving lane). When I was about 50-100m behind him I pulled out to overtaking lane and kept my indicator on. He pulled in & I passed. I then returned to normal driving lane and the muppet pulled back out to overtaking lane

This happened again about 5km's further up the road

....on a bloody emepty motorway

no1beemerfan · 05-02-2010 01:46PM

I HATE it when people hog the wrong lane.

A year or so ago I was behind an Xsara in the overtaking lane passing out a truck on the M7. Xsara was doing about 60 mph.

Anyways....passes truck and stays in overtaking lane even though both lanes totally free....a mile down the road I get annoyed and flash the light....see the fe€ker look in the rear view mirror....does nothing....flash again a few mins later....still nothing....my blood is boiling at this stage so undertake him.....look in his passenger window....and wtf does he do.....gives me the middle finger....well by jaysus I could've drove him off the road.....to this day I wish I had! :mad:

langdang · 05-02-2010 01:46PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Nah, I reckon if they're in their own little world, if I flash them and they pull over, they'll probably potter along in that lane for a good while and not inconvenience other drivers (i.e you)

Fair play, but too many times I've seen the gimps pull straight back into the wrong lane, with full beams on throughout in many cases.
Gave up on them after a few of those episodes!

I reckon a baboon or a labrador in a suitably modified car would make a better job of it...

colm_mcm · 05-02-2010 01:46PM

sesna wrote: »

Firstly, have you heard of a device called a rear view mirror which has the capacity to reflect light?

Secondly, dont be such a predictable puppet

I'm familiar enough with mirrors yeah. I've never been dazzled by them though.

Dunno about the "predictable puppet" bit. I'm not claiming to be a christian motorist or anything, I drive both slow and fast cars fast but never inconvenience anyone on the road as I actively drive - as in I'm watching everything as I drive. I can't remember the last time I've had to slam on the brakes or had someone flash their lights at me or blow their horn.

neilthefunkeone · 05-02-2010 01:49PM

corriganalan wrote: »

In the fast lane - car sitting in front of you doing 80k with nothing in the slow lane

Undertake them.. and give a hard stare followed by a disappointed shake of the head as you pass..

Martron · 05-02-2010 01:50PM

sesna wrote: »

Firstly, have you heard of a device called a rear view mirror which has the capacity to reflect light?

Secondly, dont be such a predictable puppet

that mirror also has the capability to reflect light away from your eyes to! ever think of flicking it up if you are getting "dazzled"

secondly its better than being a predictable puppet than an unpredictable muppet ..... slamming on your brakes ..... crazy

Occam · 05-02-2010 01:51PM

red menace wrote: »

Is it better than the guys who feels the need to pull in after overtaking every single car even if there is no-one trying to overtake them?

Doesn't matter if someone is trying to overtake you or not.

Keep left on all roads including motorways.

peasant · 05-02-2010 01:53PM

just as a point of interest:

In Autobahn country (Germany), both actions (driving in the overtaking lane without moving over as well as flashing your lights and driving too close behind) can be seen as "Nötigung" (= coercion)

Depending on the severity of the actions the punishment can reach from a fine to loss of licence and up to 5 years imprisonement.

"Nötigung" is a criminal offence and not just a minor misdemeanor.

Additionally, "undertaking" could also buy you a spell in prison and a criminal record.

Malari · 05-02-2010 01:56PM

I don't understand why people drive in the overtaking lane all the time - every time we get in the car we bitch about the woeful standard of driving on dual carriageways and motorways.

WHY do they stay in the lane when they don't need to be there? I've decided it's:
A. They think you can drive in whatever lane you like
B. They are so scared of each lane manoeuvre that they just stay where they are and just make one lane-change when it's absolutely needed
C. They are lazy, ignorant gits and couldn't be bothered using the lanes correctly

I just realised a friend of mine falls into the last category when she told me she drove the whole way from Dublin to Cork in the overtaking lane because "I tried going in and out of the lanes all the time before but it didn't save me any time" :eek:

When you are up against this kind of logic what do you say? Think how much time you'd save if you just drove through red lights and stop signs too? :mad:

sesna · 05-02-2010 01:56PM

peasant wrote: »

just as a point of interest:

In Autobahn country (Germany), both actions (driving in the overtaking lane without moving over as well as flashing your lights and driving too close behind) can be seen as "Nötigung" (= coercion)

Depending on the severity of the actions the punishment can reach from a fine to loss of licence and up to 5 years imprisonement.

"Nötigung" is a criminal offence and not just a minor misdemeanor.

Additionally, "undertaking" could also buy you a spell in prison and a criminal record.

5 years imprisonment for flashing your lights? I see the good ole Germans are guilty of over-compensating now.

Pimp Ninja · 05-02-2010 02:00PM

I was all for flashing the overtaking lane hoggers, until one night about 4 years ago coming in the N4.

Came to a line of about 6 or so cars on the left most lane, pulled to overtaking lane to pass them.
There was a car in the overtaking lane along side the car at the front of the convoy (if you like) doing the same speed as the cars in the left lane. It should also be noted that there was a decent distance between each car in the left lane.
As I overtook these cars in the left lane, I came behind (not too close) the car in the overtaking lane. I sat at their speed for about a minute, untill another car joined behind me in the overtaking lane. Then I flashed the headlights at the "lane hog"

They put on the brakes and pulled towards and then onto the grass verge on the central median.

Narrow miss later, Ive never flashed anyone since.

Töpher · 05-02-2010 02:11PM

Onkle wrote: »

If it's dark I'll throw my indicator on, when I first started doing this I was shocked to see that it worked.

Also a big fan of this. My reckoning was that it's also useful to let any traffic behind you know there's a car hogging the overtaking lane just in front, so getting pissed at me is a pointless exercise.

Or so I thought. About 2 weeks ago some lad in a Range Rover was behind me going mental when I was behind a car that wouldn't move in from the overtaking lane on the M50 (2 lane part), I'd stuck the inicator on when I saw the RR approaching from behind and gave the lad in front a flash or three. Range Rover decides he's had enough and barrells through on the driving lane, as he does this the clown in front of me finally decides he's utilised his quota of overtaking lane for the evening and pulls back in with no indication, very nearly taking out the Range Rover (and probably myself too, had they hit).

So now I take the bus. :pac:

Sleepy · 05-02-2010 02:13PM

If I'm in the outside lane, I'll pull in when I've finished over-taking what I intended to overtake. If you signal from a reasonable distance behind me and there's a gap I can safely pull into in the inside lane (of slower moving traffic), I'll pull in and let you go. Flash your headlights at me when there's no safe place for me to pull in or do it while tailgating me and I'll stay out in that lane way longer than I would have otherwise just to piss you off.

sesna · 05-02-2010 02:17PM

Martron wrote: »

are you crazy? when have you been blinded by a car coming from behind unless you were staring at your rearview mirror for longer than a second? if that is the case you were not looking at the road in the first place. and slamming on your brakes on a motorway is mental.

saftey precaution!!!!!!! i think its this attitude that cause accidents.

No I'm not crazy!!!! Im sorry to have alarmed you !!!
I have been blinded by a car that has been driving in close proximity to me and turned on their full beams.
I can assure you I was looking at the road, and was dazzled even after flicking rear view mirror up due to reflection of light from wing mirrors also. Light has a habit of dispersing and reflecting in all directions.

Perhaps you think slamming on my brakes is mental, but what if some poor wildlife animal, a rabbit perhaps, was crossing the motorway and I couldnt see it

colm_mcm · 05-02-2010 02:19PM

Jip · 05-02-2010 02:20PM

red menace wrote: »

Is it better than the guys who feels the need to pull in after overtaking every single car even if there is no-one trying to overtake them?

Eh, that's what your supposed to. Obviously not if you're in and out like a yo-yo if there's cars within feet of each other. Are you trying to say it's acceptable to driver on the outside lane if there's no cars on the road ?

OldmanMondeo · 05-02-2010 02:21PM

sesna wrote: »

I have noticed that the experts on use of the overtake lane strangely seem to have no regard for the law when it comes to the speed-limit.

If I am driving at 120kmp/h on a motorway slowly over-taking cars at 105kmph, I inevitably always get drivers flashing at me or tail-gating me to speed up further and break the speed-limit. I always pull in to the left once I have completed my over-taking and use the over-take lane properly.

Flashing at the driver in front for no good reason is not a good idea, as it can dazzle the driver. When I am dazzled and can not see where I am going I have no option but to slam on my brakes, as a safety precaution.

the first 2 pragraphs make perfect sense, however for the 3rd paragraph you should be taken off the roads forever.

Jip · 05-02-2010 02:25PM

Not really, it's not his job to enforce the speed limits. If a car wants to get by at speed in excess of the limit he should. And if he thinks he's doing exactly 120kph from looking at his speedo, in all likelihood he's doing less.

Viper_JB · 05-02-2010 02:29PM

I remember getting stuck behind two trucks, one involved in the longest overtaking maneuver in the world and the other determind to keep up with him both pretty much matching speed and blocking both lanes on the M7 bugs the hell out of me when you get HGV's over taking HGV's so they can drive at the exact same speed a few meters infront of the other truck. have to drop back like 100 meters or more so he can see you flashing and even at that at full tilt the truck will still take ages to get upto over taking speed.

Bull76 · 05-02-2010 02:30PM

Alot of fools think they own the road and can and will drive where they want, regardless of the RoTR.
Some education is needed badly.
I've encountered the I'm in the overtaking lane screw you driver. Nothing in the driving lane and there in the over taking lane. Indicate and move over they still don't bother, flash and they might flash again and they do move over, only long enough for you to pass and then back out into the over taking lane, I'm back in the driving lane and away.
Had some plonker, big merc doing less than 100km/Per hour, pull out in to the over taking lane and stay there, had passed the other vehicle and decided it was nice out there. Flashed them and they put on there hazard's? all you had to do was move over, plenty of space and it was safe to do so. Then when i passed them and pulled back into the driving lane, full headlights on.
I know your a useless driver but blinding everyone who passes you isn't a good idea.
One of these days some one will be driven off the road because of there selfish actions.

Flashing in overtaking lane

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