Aer Lingus link with Aer Arann?

FlutterinBantam · 21-01-2010 12:30PM #1

My sources tell me there are rumours of a situation where Aer Arann aircraft will operate in Aer Lingus livery, and the crews in EI uniform to run some UK provincial routes.

Maybe up to 5 a/c and crew...

Cannot confirm but seems like a good idea?

BuffyBot · 22-01-2010 09:25PM

No rumour - the deal has already been signed (don't know if it'll be in Aer Lingus livery/uniform) but they will be feeding into the EI network from the UK and domestically.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/0106/1224261735975.html

Long overdue - Aer Lingus could have done with an "Aer Lingus Express" style operation before now.

Plowman · 22-01-2010 10:43PM

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Stovepipe · 26-01-2010 12:47PM

Hi there
Commuter saved EI's ass one fine day, when it was discovered that EI's AOC for it's Mainline operation had accidentally been allowed to come within a few hours of expiry. They hastily reversed into Commuter's AOC, which saved the day, until a new AOC was written for Mainline. So, the little operation saved the big operation a great deal of expensive embarrassment. Some day, the history of Commuter will be written and a few other secrets will come to light;)
regards

Stovepipe

BuffyBot · 26-01-2010 01:12PM

Definitely going ahead as of today's news.

Flights are loaded on aerlingus.com already, with EI flight numbers. EI are franchising the brand to RE, so it does look like they'll be flying in EI colours/uniforms with EI product.

gaff85 · 26-01-2010 01:29PM

I think this is a great move by both EI and RE.

EI will be able to fly into smaller airports without the need to purchase different aircraft, RE now have a guaranteed revenue stream for the foreseeable future..

You never know, RE might actually start to use RJ's on the longer Euro routes that are to long for an ATR72 and the demand to small for and A320, we will have to wait and see.

Send the RE lads to the states and see how express jet, comair etc carry out the role as a regional feeder service for a main stream airline.

I cant wait to see an ATR in the EI livery.

Plowman · 26-01-2010 04:01PM

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BuffyBot · 26-01-2010 05:47PM

gaff85 wrote: »

I think this is a great move by both EI and RE.

EI will be able to fly into smaller airports without the need to purchase different aircraft, RE now have a guaranteed revenue stream for the foreseeable future..

You never know, RE might actually start to use RJ's on the longer Euro routes that are to long for an ATR72 and the demand to small for and A320, we will have to wait and see.

Send the RE lads to the states and see how express jet, comair etc carry out the role as a regional feeder service for a main stream airline.

I cant wait to see an ATR in the EI livery.

This is what EI was missing: smaller craft for those kinds of routes. Personally I'd love to see RE get their hands on an E170/190 for Euro routes..we'll see what the future brings.

Tea 1000 · 26-01-2010 06:10PM

They won't change any livery I reckon, still be Aer Arann livery and uniforms. So no ATR's in Aer Lingus colours!

FlutterinBantam · 26-01-2010 06:25PM

Uhmmmm :rolleyes:

FidesEtRobur · 26-01-2010 06:47PM

Four aircraft, the 72-500’s, will be painted in full Aer Lingus livery with the addition of the phrase ‘Operated by Aer Arann’. Flight and cabin crew will be Aer Arann staff and cabin crew will wear Aer Lingus uniforms.

Barname · 26-01-2010 10:15PM

FidesEtRobur wrote: »

Four aircraft, the 72-500’s, will be painted in full Aer Lingus livery with the addition of the phrase ‘Operated by Aer Arann’. Flight and cabin crew will be Aer Arann staff and cabin crew will wear Aer Lingus uniforms.

thanks for that!

Tea 1000 · 27-01-2010 12:53AM

Well shut me up!

If only I read it properly! I'm surprised though, first time I've seen this happen, and airlines link up with each other for certain routes all the time.
You can book a flight to Oz from Heathrow with BA and actually be on a Virgin flight, and vice versa.
Sorry for useless post above!

Edit: I must still be reading it incorrectly, I still can't see that anywhere...

Original Steyr · 27-01-2010 01:28AM

Well im happy to say this will be a new spotting experience, Camera's at the ready lads.:D

FlutterinBantam · 27-01-2010 09:36AM

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Well shut me up!
If only I read it properly! I'm surprised though, first time I've seen this happen, and airlines link up with each other for certain routes all the time.
You can book a flight to Oz from Heathrow with BA and actually be on a Virgin flight, and vice versa.
Sorry for useless post above!

Edit: I must still be reading it incorrectly, I still can't see that anywhere...

When you are here for a while you will learn to know who to believe and who not to

Note post #1:cool:

Stovepipe · 28-01-2010 05:30PM

Hi all,
This has been a rumour since about last October and was gathering legs over time. Aer Lingus went in and did an audit, which was done in a very hush-hush manner (staff told not to talk to media or mates,etc) and then they did one a few weeks later, walking around RE offices wearing their EI IDs in plain sight.So, the rumour started to turn into hard fact.Initially, the proposal was that the Arann aircraft would simply carry an Aer Lingus name sticker on the side but now it appears to have mushroomed to full paint jobs (where did they find the money for that??), in the fashion of American-style regionals.Ironic, really, considering that this was what Commuter was originally set up to do, so many years ago.People in EI are a bit pissed off because the Company couldn't be arsed telling the people on the ground what was going on( EI pilots/engineers/loaders/handlers/cabin crew,etc.) until we saw the Arann aircraft appearing on our scheduling pages on our workstations.Usual case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing.I wonder where O'Ceidigh is on this.He's very quiet for an accomplished media whore.
regards
Stovepipe

?Cee?view · 28-01-2010 05:35PM

Stovepipe wrote: »

Hi all,
accomplished media whore.
regards
Stovepipe

Would "accomplished" on its own not be more appropriate? If he's really done this deal, then he's certainly really pulled the pan out of the fire!

Stovepipe · 28-01-2010 06:36PM

Hi there,
He's had the practise.Arann has come close to disaster a few times and only avoided closure by swift action.Certainly, he's accomplished but I think this time, more experienced heads than he gain the credit for this one.
regards
Stovepipe

?Cee?view · 28-01-2010 06:41PM

You're probably dead right. He's boosted (or maybe had to boost) his managment team over the last while.

Barname · 28-01-2010 08:34PM

this is a brilliant deal for AerLingus

AerArann will be paying to increase pax #'s for AerLingus

AerArann will be providing free advertising for AerLingus

AerArann will most likely lose money ferrying pax for AerLingus

smells of a last chance saloon gamble by AerArann to 'show a deal' and to 'keep investors on board'

Stovepipe · 29-01-2010 08:10PM

Aer Arann will gain from this as they will fill aircraft, fly more routes and we will get to use an economical ATR on shorter routes instead of sending a half-full A320.The later ATR-72s are fast and quiet so there are benefits there already, especially with fuel burn over short legs.If they play it right, Arran will benefit from being allied to a bigger player. I'd imagine there will be aggressive action from FR or EZY on some routes, so that woud be one to watch.
regards
Stovepipe

PILOT · 29-01-2010 08:56PM

I believe this codeshare brings nothing but good news for Aer Arann. RE is seen by many people as a "domestic airline" flying short hop service to dublin from the rest of the country.

The marketing of RE flights to Britain and France was poor on their behalf, that the reason for low load factors. The EI brand and with correct marketing should make this alliance successful.

Will be a pity of the New RE spiral livery on the ATR72's is painted into EI colours. That livery always brightened up my day when i saw it .......

alpha2zulu · 07-03-2010 10:47PM

Just came across this image on one of the other sites of the RE aircraft-REO now in full EI colours. While its a bit sad to see Aer Arann lose some of its hard fought corporate identity, the shamrock scheme certainly looks great on the ATR.

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/290291-aer-lingus-5-a-132.html#post5556699

View Profile · 07-03-2010 11:17PM

Looks very well, reminds me of the Fokker's.

Plowman · 07-03-2010 11:19PM

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highlydebased · 08-03-2010 12:35AM

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T'was painted in Shannon

Dacian · 08-03-2010 01:14AM

Neon-Circles wrote: »

T'was painted in Shannon

Should have done it in Hanger 6 to piss off the competition.

Dantanian · 08-03-2010 03:03PM

I will be flying to New York next Monday and was wondering if anyone could tell me if Aer Lingus provide free refreshments ie. meals, drinks and most importantly alcohol??

Tea 1000 · 08-03-2010 06:27PM

Dantanian wrote: »

I will be flying to New York next Monday and was wondering if anyone could tell me if Aer Lingus provide free refreshments ie. meals, drinks and most importantly alcohol??

You could have looked that up on Aerlingus.ie instead of picking two random threads to stick your query in. Once was bad enough!
Back on topic, when are these Regional flights commencing?

Steyr · 08-03-2010 07:14PM

Plowman wrote: »

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Im heading out to EICM tomorrow morning, will she be on the Ramp? Contrails says she is there now at EICM and due to stay til wednesday?

Growler!!! · 08-03-2010 07:29PM

28th March is when EI regional is due to start.

If its in GWY in the morning I might get to see it.:)

Aer Lingus link with Aer Arann?

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