Racing Post Money Printing Thread - Mod note post 1572

POINTBREAK · 07-01-2010 05:39PM

Anyone know what it was for the record?

essexman · 07-01-2010 05:41PM

Talking about other tipsters I paid Steve Lewis Hamilton of Romford about £350 odd during the jumps season 06 -07 and he was APPALLING, never again. I also paid £50 a month to Guy Ward and he was a tad better. His stats are worth reading and he sometimes gives free stuff away especially during Cheltenham where he has been occasionally outstanding. He usually has something on the progambler site on Saturdays. But I'm sticking to "Vanilla" T. Segal myself.

mike65 · 07-01-2010 05:56PM

I'm informed the horse I named is the correct horse.

It finished 5th -

chased leaders until lost place over 5f out, towards rear and no chance on outside when hung left over 1f out

POINTBREAK · 07-01-2010 06:04PM

mike65 wrote: »

I'm informed the horse I named is the correct horse.

It finished 5th -

The same stable had an 11/1 and a 12/1 winner today.......... Mel cant do anything right.

That one was weak in the market , 23 and 24 just before the off on Betfair.

POINTBREAK · 07-01-2010 06:18PM

Thursday 5th JANUARY PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
3 losers
2 Winners
Andrew Barr 1-1 SEQ 3013202012 5/2-9/4
Mel Collier 0 (2 Wins from last 32 bets)
Matt Williams 0-0
James Pyman 1-1 (0/30*)
Profit at advised Stakes PLUS +2.88
Profit at SP..................PLUS +2.58
Present Sequence0000000000/01120 (5 wins 49 losers)
Dec Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -21
NOV Profit/Loss@SP ................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss@SP .................Plus +28.5
SEPT Profit/Loss@SP ................Minus - 1.5* incl Segal PWE
AUG Profit/Loss@SP .................Plus +26.5* incl Segal PWE

lottie20 · 08-01-2010 01:01PM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

Thursday 5th JANUARY PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
3 losers
2 Winners
Andrew Barr 1-1 SEQ 3013202012 5/2-9/4
Mel Collier 0 (2 Wins from last 32 bets)
Matt Williams 0-0
James Pyman 1-1 (0/30*)
Profit at advised Stakes PLUS +2.88
Profit at SP..................PLUS +2.58
Present Sequence0000000000/01120 (5 wins 49 losers)
Dec Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -21
NOV Profit/Loss@SP ................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss@SP .................Plus +28.5
SEPT Profit/Loss@SP ................Minus - 1.5* incl Segal PWE
AUG Profit/Loss@SP .................Plus +26.5* incl Segal PWE

luberon

lottie20 · 08-01-2010 01:01PM

mike65 wrote: »

I'm informed the horse I named is the correct horse.

It finished 5th -

2.30 ling luberon mat williams 9to2

mike65 · 08-01-2010 01:03PM

Same as ATRs pick again.

lottie20 · 08-01-2010 01:06PM

mike65 wrote: »

Same as ATRs pick again.

there getting lazy!!

where s the atr pick when hugh taylor not there?

mike65 · 08-01-2010 01:09PM

Tony "Enzo" Ennis is filling in on the HT page.

Seanohea · 08-01-2010 02:26PM

I think luberon is a great tip. Mark Johnson has a great record on the all weather in the winter. Luberon is his only horse running in lingfield today as well, and it's not an easy trip down from middleham in the north to lingfield in this weather

Seanohea · 08-01-2010 03:26PM

The signs aren't great, really drifing now, 15/2 now. Would lay it only I have small stakes on it anyway

Seanohea · 08-01-2010 03:36PM

Last by 5 lengths from 2nd last. Pointbreak has pointed out a good trend there with the horses that drift like mad. Once betting starts on course it tends to become perfectly apparent that word has come from connections that it's not the horse's day for one reason or another.
I've yet to see a horse tipped from pricewise extra that drifts like mad close to the race go on and win.

POINTBREAK · 08-01-2010 03:57PM

Seanohea wrote: »

Last by 5 lengths from 2nd last. Pointbreak has pointed out a good trend there with the horses that drift like mad. Once betting starts on course it tends to become perfectly apparent that word has come from connections that it's not the horse's day for one reason or another.
I've yet to see a horse tipped from pricewise extra that drifts like mad close to the race go on and win.

Thanks, the logic says that the support for the pricewise horses should under normal circumstances be enough for it to hold its price at least. If it is suddenly layed for substantial amounts of money, there is something not quite right. In the last 5 months I can only find 2 minor drifters that won....7/2-4/1 and 5/1 -11/2. Everything else lost. Todays was also tipped by ATR so with their followers and pricewise, you would think it should have started below the advised price............. no doubt it will go pear shaped some time, but that is 16 losers I have avoided since I started that system.

POINTBREAK · 08-01-2010 04:01PM

FRIDAY 6th JANUARY PRICEWISE EXTRA
Monday - Friday
4 losers
2 Winners
Andrew Barr 1-1 SEQ 3013202012 5/2-9/4
Mel Collier 0 (2 Wins from last 32 bets)
Matt Williams 0-1 0
James Pyman 1-1 (0/30*)
Profit at advised Stakes PLUS +1.88
Profit at SP..................PLUS +1.58
Present Sequence0000000000/011200 (5 wins 50 losers)
Dec Profit/Loss@SP .................Minus -21
NOV Profit/Loss@SP ................Minus -13
OCT Profit/Loss@SP .................Plus +28.5
SEPT Profit/Loss@SP ................Minus - 1.5* incl Segal PWE
AUG Profit/Loss@SP .................Plus +26.5* incl Segal PWE

Seanohea · 08-01-2010 04:36PM

If u backed it early to get a decent price, and then close to the race, especially when betting opens up on the racecourse it drifts like mad you could lay it off, it could be a great way to get out considering the amount of successful drifters, 2 in 16 as they've been followed.
I wouldn't necessarily consider doing this at the wknd with segal, unless on the all weather of course as he's useless at that and hates it, he admits it himself.
Would definetley consider doing it on any pricewise extra tips I follow during the week.

statto1 · 08-01-2010 05:00PM

has ny1 heard of this brimardon system? its advertised in the racing post?

mike65 · 08-01-2010 05:52PM

http://www.racing-systems.co.uk/cgi-bin/boardp/discussion.pl?forum=2&discussion=4237

Seanohea · 08-01-2010 05:57PM

statto1 wrote: »

has ny1 heard of this brimardon system? its advertised in the racing post?

I heard it's good. But I'm not totally sure statto, you advised me to look at a chap called Colin Davey before, and he was rubbish, worse than mel collier. Couldn't tip a winner to save his life

essexman · 08-01-2010 07:43PM

you guys seen this:
PRICEWISE TACKLES THE ALL-WEATHER
Tom Segal digs out the best value for the day's action on the sand - plus find out his profit figures for 2009

looks like they're trying to put Pointbreak out of business !!

mike65 · 08-01-2010 07:45PM

I'm interested in the second part of that statement!

I presume the race he'll try to find the value in is this one

POINTBREAK · 09-01-2010 01:05AM

essexman wrote: »

you guys seen this:
PRICEWISE TACKLES THE ALL-WEATHER
Tom Segal digs out the best value for the day's action on the sand - plus find out his profit figures for 2009

looks like they're trying to put Pointbreak out of business !!

I will take evens they dont publish his profits at SP. It will be interesting though.

Seanohea · 09-01-2010 09:53AM

Pricewise:

Nezami 2.10 Lingfield

statto1 · 09-01-2010 10:06AM

is dat all de tips on paper seanohea

negwob99 · 09-01-2010 10:32AM

Only 1 tip, here is the stats for 2009. Was hoping for a better breakdown!

13.06%
strike-rate
133 points
in profit
222 recommended bets
236.5
points staked
29 successful
bets
56.24%
return on
investment

mike65 · 09-01-2010 10:39AM

So thats all Tom Segals bets, PW and PW-E?

statto1 · 09-01-2010 10:58AM

poor mr segal must be pulling his hair out trying to find a tip in the all weather, he keeps saying he hates it.

semiprogambler · 09-01-2010 11:15AM

negwob99 wrote: »

Only 1 tip, here is the stats for 2009. Was hoping for a better breakdown!

13.06%
strike-rate
133 points
in profit
222 recommended bets
236.5
points staked
29 successful
bets
56.24%
return on
investment

Very interesting I have great respect for Tom Segal. I`m assuming the results are based on advised prices but what prices can we REALISTICALLY expect to get?
Looking @ oddschecker toay`s tipped horse @ 0953hrs is showing a best price 8/1 (with 5 bookies) and 9.4 @ betfair. From what i can see the best price has been 11/1 (3 bookies) i would reckon the total stake allowed @ these prices would be £10 per bookie so that`s £30 @11/1 in total.

So the price is now trading @ 8/1 for REALISTIC fluidity that`s 73% of advised price i wonder how this would affect the pw`s results and would he still be profitable in the REAL world.

This post is by no means a criticism of Tom Segal who is, by my reckoning, the best tipster of the current era and second to none, just a reminder to anyone out there who might be considering giving up the day job and following tipsters full time!

Get REAL!!!

Seanohea · 09-01-2010 11:29AM

Hey statto,
that's definetley all the tips in the paper from pricewise

essexman · 09-01-2010 11:29AM

What you mean stay Semi pro ?

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