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Erotic Vacations

  • 19-11-2009 04:30PM
    #1
    ken26
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ✭


    I have a friend in the UK that recently came back from an Erotic holiday organised by an Erotic Holidays Agency. He said he had an unreal time and the ladies were out of this world. He went for one week and had 2 ladies the whole time.

    Now I am thinking about trying it, just for the hell of it, you only live once right? Just posting to see what everyone here thinks of it and has anyone ever tried something like this before?


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  • #2
    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    ken26 wrote: »
    I have a friend in the UK that recently came back from an Erotic holiday with this agency <mod snip>. He said he had an unreal time and the ladies were out of this world. He went for one week and had 2 ladies the whole time.

    Now I am thinking about trying it, just for the hell of it, you only live once right? Just posting to see what everyone here thinks of it and has anyone ever tried something like this before?

    Package holiday where the 'package' includes some local prostitutes, can't
    say it's my cuppa.


  • #3
    hobochris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    Sounds a bit shady to me..


  • #4
    r3nu4l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,400 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    I'm re-opening this thread with the caveat that no erotic travel agencies are named and we discuss it as adults :)

    So lads, would this kind of holiday be for you?

    Personally, even if I was single I wouldn't fancy this at all. It's just not for me to be honest. I'd much rather have a regular holiday and if I had a holiday romance great but not a holiday just for the sake of 'gettin' me leg over'...


  • #5
    powerfade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 188 ✭✭powerfade


    just get cheap Ryanair flights to Amsterdam maybe....


  • #6
    PCPhoto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    are you talking about Hedonism ?

    the thing that was on TV a couple of years ago - an adults resort in the carribean I think..... basically a swingers and nudists paradise !

    I'd go ...but doesnt necessarily mean I'll get laid.


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  • #7
    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    are you talking about Hedonism ?

    the thing that was on TV a couple of years ago - an adults resort in the carribean I think..... basically a swingers and nudists paradise !

    I'd go ...but doesnt necessarily mean I'll get laid.

    It's different to the likes of hedonism which is a swingers resort, the package referred to by the OP is pretty much just sex tourism. Channel 4 have had several documentaries on this topic over the past few years might be worth checking youtube/4OD for "My boyfriend the sex tourist".
    http://www.channel4.com/blogs/page/fourdocs?entry=sex_tourism_series
    The resort in Venezuela featured on the program made for grim viewing
    and looks rather similar to what the OP referred to.


  • #8
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Jesus no. This would not be for me at all. I'd prefer waht r3nu4l said. Wouldn't necessarily go on holidays to get laid.

    Hell, you can do that here!


  • #9
    CliffHuxtabel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭CliffHuxtabel


    Save up your bread and go to thailand or the phillipines.

    Amazing countries and lots of action for cheap


  • #10
    Gillo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Gillo


    Definetly not my thing, travelling halfway across the world to shag a load of prositutes, to be honest it beggers belief. On the other hand I can understand people going away to swinging resorts for a week, suppose it's just like a golf holiday at least everyone there is a consenting adult, still not my thing though.

    Is there not a really high risk of coming back with a range of std's or getting banged up (excuse the pun).


  • #11
    Otis Driftwood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Ehhhh,not a hope in hell.

    Erotic holidays me hole.

    Something like 9 and a half weeks is erotic.

    This is just lame.


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  • #12
    Emme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    OK, this is a gentleman's forum here but I am still going to contribute to this post.

    OP, consider that some of the women providing services on these holidays may be trafficked, underage or in bonded slavery. I would hazard a guess that few are providing their services out of choice. Unfortunately this is not an ideal world and slavery still exists, but surely no enlightened person would choose to support slavery?

    You are privileged to live in a relatively wealthy country where you are better off than most people in the world.

    You could probably have an equally good time if you went on a package holiday to Ibiza or Tenerife. Everyone out for fun, everyone willing, no exploitation. You can do anything you want as long as the other person consents and it's safe.


  • #13
    Reginald P. DuM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭Reginald P. DuM


    nedtheshed wrote: »
    Ehhhh,not a hope in hell.

    Erotic holidays me hole.

    Something like 9 and a half weeks is erotic.

    This is just lame.

    I agree, pointless stuff really, the only possible thing that I can think of to make it someway appealing is the quality of the women that you'd have access to, but thats not enough to make it feasible for me. Ya can get laid any weekend in most pubs in Ireland really if your desperate enough. And to be considering one of these trips obviously there's an element of desperation for something. But OP if ya fancy the idea go for it, just be wise, cos when ya head down these seedy types of avenues your hole is open in more ways than one.

    9 and a Half Weeks was erotic when I was 13 by the way, no more! :D


  • #14
    deadhead13
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭deadhead13


    I find the idea of paying someone to have sex with with me totally unerotic, just wouldn't appeal to me at all. But each to his own I suppose.


  • #15
    cruizer101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Reginald P. DuM wrote: »
    Ya can get laid any weekend in most pubs in Ireland really if your desperate enough.

    I think the point of these holidays is for the men who can't which is quite a few.

    As for the quality of the girls, I had a quick look at one or two websites and can say in my opinion it would be a waste if going for the quality of the girls.


  • #16
    Emme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    cruizer101 wrote: »
    I think the point of these holidays is for the men who can't which is quite a few.

    As for the quality of the girls, I had a quick look at one or two websites and can say in my opinion it would be a waste if going for the quality of the girls.

    None of you seem to be concerned that the girls could be coerced into providing services. As for men not being able to find a woman, I don't accept that for one minute. There are lots of nice women out there, you just have to make the effort to go out there and find them.

    I would have thought that in this day and age women should not be a commodity that can be bought, sold or hired by the hour.:mad:


  • #17
    shellyboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Emme wrote: »
    I would have thought that in this day and age women should not be a commodity that can be bought, sold or hired by the hour.:mad:


    They're not... but sex is.


  • #18
    cruizer101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Emme wrote: »
    As for men not being able to find a woman, I don't accept that for one minute. There are lots of nice women out there, you just have to make the effort to go out there and find them.

    I agree with your point about it likely being that women are being expolited here, and don't really agree with the holidays.

    But the above is a simple fact, there are many men out there who have serious problems meeting women. They want to experience what it is like and so there is a market for this kind of holiday, plain and simple.

    If it was as easy as going out for a night why would some people spend so much money paying for sex.

    It may be a sorry state of affairs but shellyboo is right, many are willing to buy and sell sex.


  • #19
    Snowie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    To me it sounds a little desperate and a little sleazy doing something like that.....


  • #20
    Agent Smith
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    I'd imagine it would be like tossing a hotdog down a hallway.


    Save yourself the hassle of the STI's... Get a fleshlight and a ryanair flight


  • #21
    ken26
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ✭ken26


    Hi everyone, sorry for the delay, i suppose I better explain how this works properly. First off, I have no problem finding a girl here, that is not what it is about. I just want the experience of being with one or two sexy latin girls for a week or so in a luxury villa near the beach an ocean, the place is a paradise!

    Now none of these girls are trafficked, they are all dominican where prostitution is legal, so it is a legit business there. As I said a friend went there and he was able to go anywhere he wanted with the girls with no problems, no minders etc, it is legit.

    You can spend a week there at a resort or villa with a girl for about $4,000, which is about 2,800 euro roughly. For this price they pick you up at the airport with the girl, take you to get checked in at the resort or villa where all food and drink is included in the price. When your trip is over they take you back to the airport.

    Dominican republic is a poor country and like other poor countries it has a sex trade. These girls get paid more for spending a week with a client than they would for 3 months in a normal job. To be honest in this day in age, I do not see why people see this as sleazy.

    Going to the likes of thailand and phil are sleazy where you just pick the girls up from the street etc.

    Oh and STDs are not a concern as they get their girls regularly tested and a cert from the doc is available. All sex has to be covered in any case.

    Here is something interesting. An escort in ireland can charge almost 2,000 euro for 24 hours, that is a big difference.


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  • #22
    Snowie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    sounds like your trying to justfy it to your self if you ask me


  • #23
    Emme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    ken26 wrote: »
    You can spend a week there at a resort or villa with a girl for about $4,000, which is about 2,800 euro roughly. For this price they pick you up at the airport with the girl, take you to get checked in at the resort or villa where all food and drink is included in the price. When your trip is over they take you back to the airport.

    Dominican republic is a poor country and like other poor countries it has a sex trade. These girls get paid more for spending a week with a client than they would for 3 months in a normal job.

    If you're that concerned about the economic plight of people in the Dominican Republic or any other poor country why don't you make an equivalent donation to a reputable charity that educates the people to get out of situations where they have to sell themselves to foreigners to earn a decent living?

    My suggestion - go to a spa resort in Ibiza or Mallorca, make the effort and chat up a fellow holidaymaker. That way you get the pampering and the passion but nobody gets exploited. I hate all forms of s*x tourism, be it men going to Thailand or women going to Turkey. Jamaica is notorious for that sort of thing as well. In my opinion s*x tourism degrades the local people of the tourist country - these people are being bought and sold!

    I'm not moralising, but I think that s*x should be a fair, willing, equal and ideally loving exchange between the people concerned and not something that you put a price on. This means I don't approve of gold diggers either.


  • #24
    Tragedy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    Even when money isn't involved, sex usually has a price.

    (and I don't mean that facetiously either)

    PS: http://stevemoxon.blogspot.com/2009/10/big-myth-of-trafficked-prostitution.html

    Go proselytize somewhere else please


  • #25
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    If it weren't for STDs I'd go for it, but not a chance would I put myself through months of mental torture afterward waiting for the test results.
    ken26 wrote: »

    Oh and STDs are not a concern as they get their girls regularly tested and a cert from the doc is available. All sex has to be covered in any case.

    Get real. Heard this myth about Amsterdam so many times.

    So lets say you do get a cert, how could you trust in its validity?

    But lets assume it was real. STDs by their nature are impossible to be sure about with a prostitute.

    Herpes/Warts can't be tested for.

    Much more importantly, a person has to have HIV for three months before they show positive for it on test but will still be infectious during this period. These girls have a different paying man every week. At the very least one johnny's gonna split over a week of sex with a deadly little Dominican girl. No, could not have that hanging over me.


  • #26
    Monkey61
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Monkey61


    I'm not quite sure how I feel about this really. I have no problem with prostitution (provided that the women are entering into it willingly and entirely of their own volition) as I don't think anyone has the right to tell another adult what they can and cannot do with their own body provided that they are not harming anyone in the process.

    For somebody who can't, for whatever reason, chat up women/have relationships/sex, this sounds like a pretty good idea. Fun and harmless as long as everyone is happy to be doing it. It is easy to react in horror and cast down judgements when people want to do stuff like this. Words like sleazy and desperate get bandied about quite a lot in relation to paying for sex, but then one could say that going out clubbing and drunkenly taking home an equally drunk partner is pretty much the same. And although one frequently hears the "oh it's really easy to pull women in nightclubs" thing - but for many people that isn't actually true.

    Hmm...I am still on the fence though and would probably see it as a last resort, if you weren't able to find someone to have sex with otherwise as everyone should be able to experience sexual contact in their lives.

    If you were going to do it, treat these women with the respect they deserve, be very very careful regarding diseases then why not I suppose. I would just be wary that future partners might not be entirely understanding about this so you would have to be prepared to keep it quiet.


  • #27
    Macha
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Monkey61 wrote: »
    Hmm...I am still on the fence though and would probably see it as a last resort, if you weren't able to find someone to have sex with otherwise as everyone should be able to experience sexual contact in their lives.
    What? sexual contact is a right?
    Monkey61 wrote: »
    If you were going to do it, treat these women with the respect they deserve, be very very careful regarding diseases then why not I suppose. I would just be wary that future partners might not be entirely understanding about this so you would have to be prepared to keep it quiet.
    And how exactly do you determine that the person you are with is not doing their job out of coercion? Ask them?


  • #28
    Smallbit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭Smallbit


    Tragedy wrote: »
    Even when money isn't involved, sex usually has a price.

    (and I don't mean that facetiously either)

    PS: http://stevemoxon.blogspot.com/2009/10/big-myth-of-trafficked-prostitution.html

    Go proselytize somewhere else please

    Interesting point but a bit harsh on Emme no?! She's entitled to her point without being accused of proselytizing. Assertive women are regularly labelled lesbian or 'hysterical' when we air our views...

    I can see how you might conclude that sex always has a price and yes I've seen many of my friends play that card when it suits them. I personally don't, but I will never apologise for not having sex with a man I don't fancy.

    The simple fact is that we're not driven to seek sex in the same way as men, so there will always be an unsatisfied demand for sex. This is where 'sex-workers' fit in, and provide purely physical services.

    From a female point of view, or mine at least, purely physical sex is inferior to loving sex and it's not something I do often. Having said that, most guys would be able to 'score' a women on a package holiday from what I've witnessed. I honestly think some men seek to pay for sex up front just to simplify the process for themselves - maybe it's laziness?!


  • #29
    Macha
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Smallbit wrote: »
    The simple fact is that we're not driven to seek sex in the same way as men, so there will always be an unsatisfied demand for sex.
    Where are you getting this from?


  • #30
    Altar_Ego_Boy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Altar_Ego_Boy


    Sex tourism is fine as far as im concerned.

    Theres nothing unethical about it. Whether or not you consider it desperate is one thing but the fact is that the countries in which these women live have poor economies. The women dont need to be coerced into prostitution because they can earn much more from it than "regular" employment.

    I wouldnt go on a "erotic vacation" or to a prostitute myself at this stage but I have experience from when I travelled in the far east when I was younger and it changed my mind on paying for sex from an ethical standpoint.

    Of course the issue of prostitution is going to hit a nerve with some women but the bottom line is that theres nothing wrong if its between consenting adults.

    However, the danger of catching an STD is real and like one of the previous posters I dont think its worth the risk.


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  • #31
    Macha
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Altar_Ego_Boy wrote: »
    Sex tourism is fine as far as im concerned.
    The U.N. opposes sex tourism citing health, social and cultural consequences for both tourist home countries and destination countries, especially in situations exploiting gender, age, social and economic inequalities in sex tourism destinations.[1][2][3]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_tourism
    Altar_Ego_Boy wrote: »
    Theres nothing unethical about it. Whether or not you consider it desperate is one thing but the fact is that the countries in which these women live have poor economies. The women dont need to be coerced into prostitution because they can earn much more from it than "regular" employment.
    Oh yes so then it's OK. You're actually acknowledging that they're forced into prostitution by poverty but don't see a problem with this?
    Altar_Ego_Boy wrote: »
    I wouldnt go on a "erotic vacation" or to a prostitute myself at this stage but I have experience from when I travelled in the far east when I was younger and it changed my mind on paying for sex from an ethical standpoint.
    How exactly?
    Altar_Ego_Boy wrote: »
    Of course the issue of prostitution is going to hit a nerve with some women but the bottom line is that theres nothing wrong if its between consenting adults.
    Yes because it's only women who see a problem with sex tourism.
    Altar_Ego_Boy wrote: »
    However, the danger of catching an STD is real and like one of the previous posters I dont think its worth the risk.
    I can't tell you how depressing it is to hear that's the only reason you wouldn't do it.


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