Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread [mod warning #11145, #32140 (see OP)]

anplaya · 17-10-2009 11:27AM

Boggles wrote: »

It's over 18 million.

at the time of transfer. now the rates are just over 18.;)

Boggles · 17-10-2009 11:29AM

anplaya wrote: »

at the time of transfer. now the rates are just over 18.;)

Not really considering it is staggered payments.

jesus_thats_gre · 17-10-2009 11:31AM

Boggles wrote: »

Nani and Anderson cost 20 million each????

Hmmm, I thought I had give or take 1 or 2 million in brackets beside that.

If we are talking pounds, no, they didn't cost 20 million. They cost between 15 and 18 million pounds. That would be around 20 million euro when they were signed though.

Similar enough figures to Aquilani still though.

Boggles wrote: »

Has he got 10 goals in his entire career?

I don't know. I assume you are trying to make a point with that question? what is it?

jesus_thats_gre · 17-10-2009 11:32AM

Boggles wrote: »

Doubt it, since I have already said Liverpool will struggle to qualify for the CL this season.

Grand so.

Regardless, do we accept that it is 20 million euro so?

Boggles · 17-10-2009 11:33AM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Hmmm, I thought I had give or take 1 or 2 million in brackets beside that.

If we are talking pounds, no, they didn't cost 20 million. They cost between 15 and 18 million pounds. That would be around 20 million euro when they were signed though.

Link???

As far as I know both transfers were UNDISCLOSED

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

I don't know. I assume you are trying to make a point with that question? what is it?

His scoring history hardly supports your theory that we will be more offensive or prolific than midfielders past.

daithijjj · 17-10-2009 11:33AM

Boggles wrote: »

Not really considering it is staggered payments.

So it could be less depending on conversion rates. Talk about splitting hairs.

Boggles · 17-10-2009 11:35AM

daithijjj wrote: »

So it could be less depending on conversion rates. Talk about splitting hairs.

1 million pounds is hardly a split hair.

Anyways.

There is hugh expectations on the lads shoulders, mostly from Scouse fans and I suspect the Smigged one aswell.

If he doesn't hit the ground running, he will be tarred and feathered.

anplaya · 17-10-2009 11:36AM

Boggles wrote: »

Not really considering it is staggered payments.

ok so what happens if conversion rates go down?we pay less?:rolleyes:

jesus_thats_gre · 17-10-2009 11:38AM

Boggles wrote: »

Link???

As far as I know both transfers were UNDISCLOSED

Ah ok, playing that game now are we.

Just so it is clear, no one is to entertain a discussion with Boggles about the transfer fee paid for any player unless the fee paid has been officially disclosed by the buying or selling club.

Forget about Nani and Anderson so.

Boggles wrote: »

His scoring history hardly supports your theory that we will be more offensive or prolific than midfielders past

Indeed Boggles.

However, as he is a more offensive player than Alonso and I guess will be playing a more advanced role in a pretty free scoring team, I hope and expect that he will get more goals or assists than Alonso did during his time at Liverpool, i.e. more than 3 goals as season or more than 5 or 6 assits a season.

You would swear that I was claiming that he is going to be amazing or something.

An open question was raised that seemed to suggest that Liverpool fans expect him to be top class from the minute he starts playing football for us. That isn't the case and I was attempting to explain my expectations for him by comparing him to other players and using clearly defined figures that can be quantified with relative ease.

jesus_thats_gre · 17-10-2009 11:49AM

Boggles wrote: »

1 million pounds is hardly a split hair.

Anyways.

There is hugh expectations on the lads shoulders, mostly from Scouse fans and I suspect the Smigged one aswell.

If he doesn't hit the ground running, he will be tarred and feathered.

Ah, and Boggles intentions become clear.

Engage in a hypotetical discussion with someone. Hopefully someone will get wound up without having to resort to silly statments. If they do happen provide facts and a rational argument, partially reply to their posts but ultimately ignore what they say and eventually post an outlandish statement.

I attempted to give you the benefit of the doubt Boggles but once again, you have proven yourself incapable of normal discussion.

The expectations of reasonable Liverpool fans on this forum are a handful or goals and/or assists throughout the course of a season. I think those expectations are reasonable for an Italian that cost 20 million euro playing his first season in the PL.

Boggles · 17-10-2009 12:08PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Hopefully someone will get wound up

Your the only one getting wound up mate, think you need to relax a small bit more, can't be healthy been that tightly wound TBH.

jesus_thats_gre · 17-10-2009 12:34PM

Boggles wrote: »

Your the only one getting wound up mate, think you need to relax a small bit more, can't be healthy been that tightly wound TBH.

I genuinely didn't realise that you had my best interests at heart.

Boggles · 17-10-2009 12:38PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

I genuinely didn't realise that you had my best interests at heart.

Hey I care. I won't apologise for it.

jesus_thats_gre · 17-10-2009 12:48PM

Boggles wrote: »

Hey I care. I won't apologise for it.

Just so that we are clear, do you accept that Aquilani was 20 million euro?

SlickRic · 17-10-2009 01:02PM

who the f*ck really cares about the exact transfer fee at this stage. good God.

expectations will be the same regardless - a few goals and a few assists, and be settled in the team as soon as he can. that's what's expected.

anything more than that would be a hugely welcome bonus.

i can't wait to see how he gets on.

jesus_thats_gre · 17-10-2009 01:06PM

SlickRic wrote: »

who the f*ck really cares about the exact transfer fee at this stage. good God..

To be frank, I care that the transfer fee is being misrepresented. When discusssing football, it is best to stick to the actual facts where possible.

SlickRic · 17-10-2009 01:14PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

To be frank, I care that the transfer fee is being misrepresented. When discusssing football, it is best to stick to the actual facts where possible.

i understand that, but in this instance...

1) you're not going to get anywhere.

2) it doesn't affect the point being made - the expectations you have of Aquilani.

jesus_thats_gre · 17-10-2009 01:22PM

SlickRic wrote: »

i understand that, but in this instance...

1) you're not going to get anywhere.

2) it doesn't affect the point being made - the expectations you have of Aquilani.

I know I won't get anywhere. That is why I have quoted him a number of times so that it is blatantly obvious that he has no interest in the truth.

And no, it doesn't majorly affect the expectations that I have. It needed addressing however as he was misrepresenting the facts of the transfer in an attempt to further re-enforce his point regarding the expectation of Liverpool fans.

17-10-2009 01:25PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

To be frank, I care that the transfer fee is being misrepresented. When discusssing football, it is best to stick to the actual facts where possible.

Don't fall for the bait!! :cool:

jesus_thats_gre · 17-10-2009 01:46PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Don't fall for the bait!! :cool:

Jesus Wept · 17-10-2009 04:54PM

In spite of the fact that Chelsea lost today also, the commentator on the stream I am watching has decided Liverpool's title challenge is now definitly over.

I think I'll avoid this thread for a while.

That_Guy · 17-10-2009 04:59PM

The-Rigger wrote: »

In spite of the fact that Chelsea lost today also, the commentator on the stream I am watching has decided Liverpool's title challenge is now definitly over.

I think I'll avoid this thread for a while.

About two years ago they said the same thing about Liverpool after only about 4 games. Farce really.

Chucky the tree · 17-10-2009 05:00PM

Good to see normal service of being out of the title race by november has resumed after last years blip.

Chardee MacDennis · 17-10-2009 05:01PM

4 losses after 9 games, not a good start at all.

mike65 · 17-10-2009 05:01PM

It ain't looking too healthy either.

Pityful stuff, wrong selections in the middle, no self belief, no guts, no glory.

Holsten · 17-10-2009 05:02PM

Hard to not feel like it is over at this early stage.

If the mancs win next week I think it will be.

Handsome Bob · 17-10-2009 05:02PM

All frustrations and short-sighted pundit claims aside, we can make this right next week. Beating Man U last season re-ignited this team when everyone had written us off, we can do it again. I believe in Liverpool FC to make this right.

Dont be at yourself · 17-10-2009 05:04PM

International break really ****ed us over this week, and the early goal made it very tough for us get a handle on the game. Poor performance, and not looking good for our title ambitions. If we don't take maximum points next weekend, we can put it to bed.

Handsome Bob · 17-10-2009 05:05PM

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

International break really ****ed us over this week, and the early goal made it very tough for us get a handle on the game. Poor performance, and not looking good for our title ambitions. If we don't take maximum points next weekend, we can put it to bed.

What's new?

joe123 · 17-10-2009 05:07PM

LZ5by5 wrote: »

All frustrations and short-sighted pundit claims aside, we can make this right next week. Beating Man U last season re-ignited this team when everyone had written us off, we can do it again. I believe in Liverpool FC to make this right.

Agree. So much rests on the game at Anfield next weekend. If we loose thats it we are out of the title race. A win could reignite everything.

BUT...what happens if Gerrard and Torres get injured again? Same ****?

To be honest ive enough of Voronin/Lucas/Babel. Bring in Pacheco next time he wants to bring on a Voronin or Babel. Give the lad a chance.

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