100k Miles On A Engine

pred racer · 08-10-2009 12:10AM

maidhc wrote: »

Or a Toyota?

I wouldn't buy a secondhand car with more than 60k on the clock and it would need a good service history at that... I agree that at about 100k you will find you need to start spending money on wearing parts.

I wouldn't ever sell a car that was going well just because it clocked 100k though. I tend to mind my cars and keep them.

I find that the cars with 100k+ are priced really well (especially as I normally buy citroen/pugeot) and I can therefore afford to pay for stuff that breaks rather than paying it to the bank for the loan every week. I find that works better for me. ie small or no monthly payment and I can then stand the pain for stuff like brake discs, shocks, bushings etc which prob have never been done on the car before. It also helps that I do most of this stuff myself.

In the garage where I bought mine, there is the same year c5 2.0 hdi with 425k miles:eek: (its a taxi) and apart from normal service items its had one clutch and a head gasket, done both done 50k ago.

so Mine is a veritable child with a paltry 154k

voxpop · 08-10-2009 10:01AM

Marlow wrote: »

The original TDI design is pretty solid for a modern diesel.

Amen to that - I hear alot of ppl complaining that its ancient and noisy, but it keeps going and going.

bazz26 · 08-10-2009 10:06AM

voxpop wrote: »

Amen to that - I hear alot of ppl complaining that its ancient and noisy, but it keeps going and going.

So is Red Hurley, doesn't mean we should all go out and buy his albums though.

Marlow · 08-10-2009 10:16AM

voxpop wrote: »

Amen to that - I hear alot of ppl complaining that its ancient and noisy, but it keeps going and going.

The 5 cylinders aren't noisy. The just sound very different and the driving culture of the engine is better than some 6 cylinder engines.

And they definatly don't sound like a tractor, compared to some 4 and 6-cyl diesels

/M

Biro · 08-10-2009 11:12AM

bazz26 wrote: »

I think the problem here is that due to the general Irish mentality of shoe string car servicing and maintenance, poor roads, etc the Irish midset is that a car with that sort of mileage has already endured a hard life and possibly needs alot of work and money spend on it. Thing is a low mileage cars can have endured the same level of treatment but people seem to be blinded by what the odometer reads and assume mileage is an accurate indication of wear.

I have no problem buying and running a high mileage car (I have in the past and it's still in the family) but you really need to be very selective in this country with what you buy, condition and service history would be more important than what the odometer reads to me.

To totally discard a well priced car just because the odometrer reading is considered high is madness imo.

You have a point, but it's much easier to find a low mileage car with little wear than a high mileage one. If 70% of Irish owners are hard on their cars, then it stands to reason that there's a fair chance of finding a car that had a less than careful owner. That being the case, the amount of wear with the same type of person after 100,000 miles is 4 times as much approx as someone who has had the car for only 25,000 miles.
Careful ownership and maintenance is certainly the key, but in any case thigns have a lifespan, and will wear out, and many things like this are expensive, with more complex suspension etc, so some people don't want the hassle of forking out and going to the trouble of fixing these things.
Might be easier to sell your 80k car while the Irish buyer thinks it's woth something and add 2k for it for a similar car with half the mileage.

znv6i3h7kqf9ys · 08-10-2009 02:53PM

I have a 1994 M3 with 146k on the clock. Runs like new due to being serviced every 6k through out it's life. Only issues were with shocks suspension etc.

Dades · 08-10-2009 03:12PM

Test drove a 06 today with 120k on the clock. Given my budget - it's that or a 04 older model with half the mileage.

It's an ex-company car, and the history shows all the scheduled services with oil changes, some belts (inc timing belt) replaced and some other bits.

Gonna have a mechanic check it out but frankly for the price (and trade in) I'm offered I'm left with a budget for some future necessities, so I'm probably gonna go for it. My own mileage in it will only be 5K a year.

CyberGhost · 08-10-2009 03:40PM

Never understood people who buy new crap instead of an older but a better car.

Dades · 08-10-2009 04:06PM

CyberGhost wrote: »

Never understood people who buy new crap instead of an older but a better car.

I assume you're equating 'better' with lower mileage? Surely there's more factors than that worth taking into account.

Resale comes into it too. A lot easier to sell the last model car, than one two models back I would have thought.

BlackWizard · 08-10-2009 04:20PM

Dades wrote: »

Resale comes into it too. A lot easier to sell the last model car, than one two models back I would have thought.

You can sell any car easily but that depends on the price. Infact you will be burnt more with new cars on resale prices than the older cars. Depreciation decreases overtime. So the two generation old model would loose very little when it comes to resale compared the new car that just lost 7k euro because he drove it out of the garage.

Dades · 08-10-2009 04:29PM

No doubt new cars are depreciation nightmares, but I (for one!) was comparing two used cars - newer models with higher mileage v older models with lower.

CyberGhost · 08-10-2009 04:47PM

Dades wrote: »

I assume you're equating 'better' with lower mileage? Surely there's more factors than that worth taking into account.

Resale comes into it too. A lot easier to sell the last model car, than one two models back I would have thought.

Actually with "better" I'm assuming a better car.

People buy a new Citroen or a Fiat or some other car like that that costs the same as a bit older BMW say.

BMW might have more mileage and be older but it's still going to be a much better car.

Dades · 08-10-2009 04:59PM

Ah sorry - I think I misinterpreted your other post!

Totally agree on the new car business. Otherwise I'd be looking a new Daewoo myself.

w123 · 08-10-2009 05:29PM

My Mercedes 230te has over 400,000 miles, I bought it at 398,000 - has been well looked after and runs sweet as a nut.

I'll change the oil and filters every 3,000 and 6,000 miles and keep it forever.

08-10-2009 05:31PM

Personally I wouldnt buy a car with more than 100k miles. My current car (318ci) I bought with about 85k and now have 120k on it. Its served me well so far(touch wood) with just servicing costs, a cam shaft sensor and replacing the front wishbones which happens with every e46 3 series. But I dread to think about how little it will be worth when I go to sell it next year and in a way I wish I had bought with less mileage at the start.

Also every time I look at the mileage I cant help but think some major problem is just around the corner, It may(I hope) be an irrational fear but its annoying all the same.

I would hope to not to buy a car with much more than 60k miles on it the next time.

Dades · 08-10-2009 06:03PM

Tristian Faint Detective wrote: »

But I dread to think about how little it will be worth when I go to sell it next year and in a way I wish I had bought with less mileage at the start.

Surely less mileage would have cost you more to buy in the first place - isn't it all relative?

CyberGhost · 09-10-2009 02:07AM

Dades wrote: »

Ah sorry - I think I misinterpreted your other post!

Totally agree on the new car business. Otherwise I'd be looking a new Daewoo myself.

Np:) forgot about Daewoo, Luca Brazzi would have to have a "chat" with me for me to consider that.

For a new Deawoo(15k?) you can pick up a very decent car.

Voodoomelon · 09-10-2009 02:57AM

Tristian Faint Detective wrote: »

But I dread to think about how little it will be worth when I go to sell it next year and in a way I wish I had bought with less mileage at the start.

Also every time I look at the mileage I cant help but think some major problem is just around the corner, It may(I hope) be an irrational fear but its annoying all the same.

I would hope to not to buy a car with much more than 60k miles on it the next time.

I used to think like that until I realised that if somethings gonna happen, theres nothing you can do about it. So enjoy the hell out of the car while you can.

DanFindy · 09-10-2009 09:46AM

I had a 94 turbo diesel Mondeo that did 390k and the speedo had been stopped for 3 months, i serviced it religiously every 5000 miles and apart from regular wear and tear items and getting the pump reconditioned nothin much else ever spent on it. Good quality oil of correct type for the engine and regular maintenance is the key!!!

SpannerMonkey · 09-10-2009 10:51AM

It's complete rubbish I had a BMW 316i that had 380,000 miles on it and I never had a spot of bother with it my next car only had 35000 on it when I got it and it broke my heart there was always something wrong with it , a friend of mine has a old BMW 728i with 690,000 miles and no problem and I know another guy with a Toyota carina with 600,000 miles no problems as long as a car is serviced properly there is almost no limit to it's life , only downside is the Irish mentality that once 100k is done it could die any day after that , and so resale price is terrible and it's not just that ,if a car has 100k kilometers sone the same mentality applies it's obviously going to fail soon even though this is only about 65000 miles , it's just the number 100,000 that instills fear in the Irish car buyer and it does my head in !!
Rant over :-)

EPM · 09-10-2009 11:06AM

davy_b wrote: »

It's complete rubbish I had a BMW 316i that had 380,000 miles on it and I never had a spot of bother with it my next car only had 35000 on it when I got it and it broke my heart there was always something wrong with it , a friend of mine has a old BMW 728i with 690,000 miles and no problem and I know another guy with a Toyota carina with 600,000 miles no problems as long as a car is serviced properly there is almost no limit to it's life , only downside is the Irish mentality that once 100k is done it could die any day after that , and so resale price is terrible and it's not just that ,if a car has 100k kilometers sone the same mentality applies it's obviously going to fail soon even though this is only about 65000 miles , it's just the number 100,000 that instills fear in the Irish car buyer and it does my head in !!
Rant over :-)

Thats true. I spoke to a saleman I know not too long ago that had a diesel Focus with just a few hundred kms over 100k km. He couldn't sell it for his life, despite lower spec ones with maybe 10k km less shifting without much hassle. In the end they had to sell it off to the trade. Utter madness

Voodoomelon · 09-10-2009 12:17PM

davy_b wrote: »

a friend of mine has a old BMW 728i with 690,000 miles and no problem :-)

That's interesting if true, surely that can't have the same gearbox?

Matt Simis · 09-10-2009 01:44PM

Tristian Faint Detective wrote: »

But I dread to think about how little it will be worth when I go to sell it next year and in a way I wish I had bought with less mileage at the start.

You are looking at that backwards, if you were the "next seller" you would be getting more car for way less price. Some of the saving goes to maintenence the rest in your pocket.

SpannerMonkey · 09-10-2009 04:18PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

That's interesting if true, surely that can't have the same gearbox?

It is true I've seen it, don't know about the gearbox he never mentioned it so I assume it's the same why and in fairness to him he services it more than the recommended , I'd say he will take that car to the grave he loves it said he'd never sell it

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