Polish people

spurious · 20-08-2009 10:16PM

breadandjam wrote: »

"It was in the papers" and that makes it true?:D

This is After Hours, of course it makes it true.

Polish people are very like Irish people I think, though some of their jokes are seriously bad.
I wish they had brought their weather with them. I don't know how they stick the weather here.

Rented Mule · 20-08-2009 10:22PM

Hazys wrote: »

Give us back Dell and we'll call it quits

You first.

Kind Regards,

America.

Kintarō Hattori · 20-08-2009 10:32PM

Niko most Irish people are happy to have Polish and people of other nationalities here, you can see it in the replies people have given here. As with anything there will always be some people who don't want foreigners in their country but these people are the minority thankfully.

By and large we are delighted to have you Polish folk here. You work hard, are educated, have a good sense of humour and your ladies are stunning. Why wouldn't you be welcome.

procure11 · 20-08-2009 10:34PM

niko2485 wrote: »

Maybe it's a little wierd but what do you think about the polish (foreign)people in Ireland? I am polish myself and sometimes I can hear that we are not really welcome here. Why do "we" have such a bad opinion here?Do you really think the polish people are taking away the irish jobs?

Sorry for my mistakes:)

I dont know if you have been living in Ireland for long...if you have,you would have noticed they are a very decent bunch and quite accommodating.The "bad opinion" you are talking about is sometimes grossly exagerated (especially when you read some posts on AH)..on the whole majority of Irish people are very nice people if you can undersatnd their jokes and wit.

Now that you are here ..can I ask you a simple question...is it true that some Polish employers advertise their jobs and ask Irish people not to apply ?:eek:

spurious · 20-08-2009 10:38PM

procure11 wrote: »

Now that you are here ..can I ask you a simple question...is it true that some Polish employers advertise their jobs and ask Irish people not to apply ?:eek:

From what I know from Polish friends, that was more along the lines of employers not wanting Poles who had worked in Ireland coming back with their fancy union ideas of rights and entitlements.

El Weirdo · 20-08-2009 10:42PM

spurious wrote: »

From what I know from Polish friends, that was more along the lines of employers not wanting Poles who had worked in Ireland coming back with their fancy union ideas of rights and entitlements.

No! There were signs on the gates of building sites! It was in the papers ffs!:pac:

herya · 20-08-2009 10:43PM

I for one feel very welcome in Ireland. Being a girl might help!

NBB Bohs wrote: »

a polish guy i know always thinks the weather is alright here and always says its crap back home, but maby he lives in an even wetter part of poland than dublin

The weather in Poland is quite extreme as compared to Dublin - very hot dry summers and often snowy winters. If you prefer milder conditions Ireland is brill. It feels like permanent spring/autumn here.

procure11 wrote: »

Now that you are here ..can I ask you a simple question...is it true that some Polish employers advertise their jobs and ask Irish people not to apply ?:eek:

Honestly I've never heard of it happening in Poland. The story was published in some rag and never substantiated plus I find it highly improbable - the Irish are not coming in droves anyway, if they wanted to discriminate against someone the Irish would be far far behind Belarussians, Ukrainians, Chinese and Vietnamese. But such a long signage would not look good in The Independent I guess.

This_Years_Love · 20-08-2009 10:52PM

I have nothing against Polish people in Ireland. In fact some of my best friends are Polish. They are the nicest, kindest, most generous people I have ever met. They are a very welcome change from the utter rudeness of most of the Irish people. (And I'm Irish).

wmpdd3 · 20-08-2009 10:56PM

Hey Niko 2485 Wy jesteście więcej niż powitanie

6 out of my 9 staff are Polish. Where I work About 25% of staff and managers are polish. Of course I get on well with most people I work with no matter what nationality they are. I have used the opportunity to find out as much as possible about Poland and Polish as like most Irish I was useless at languages.

But daily they have to endure a barrage of offensive insults.

I have had customer refuse to be served by poles saying ' have you no one who speaks English here' ( all my staff have at least 3 languages and are fluent in English)

One manager who was dealing with a customer complaint was asked 'what right he had having a managers job when half the country is out of work'.

I have seen some of they guys treated as simpletons. Ironic as most have college educations. Very funny to see one customer trying to argue a legal point with a manager that was also a qualified solicitor in Poland.

The fact of the matter is the Polish working with me have started at the bottom and worked their way up and deserve their dues.

And yes I have heard the 'No Irish' rumor etc.

I find the most bitter against Polish are construction workers and self employed trades people. I am open to correction.

niko2485 · 20-08-2009 10:57PM

procure11 wrote: »

I dont know if you have been living in Ireland for long...if you have,you would have noticed they are a very decent bunch and quite accommodating.The "bad opinion" you are talking about is sometimes grossly exagerated (especially when you read some posts on AH)..on the whole majority of Irish people are very nice people if you can undersatnd their jokes and wit.

Now that you are here ..can I ask you a simple question...is it true that some Polish employers advertise their jobs and ask Irish people not to apply ?:eek:

I have been living here for 4 years and yes I heve meet lots of nice irish people. Most of my polish friends have a bad english and I can't imagin somebody without the language in my country. It has to be really hard because polish(older) people are very unfrendlly(iin my opinion). Your culture is more open for something differend or new. I will check the adverts about work but I have never hear about it before.

P.s The weather in this country is like polish jokes -crap

wmpdd3 · 20-08-2009 10:58PM

Hey Niko 2485 Wy jesteście więcej niż powitanie

6 out of my 9 staff are Polish. Where I work About 25% of staff and managers are polish. Of course I get on well with most people I work with no matter what nationality they are. I have used the opportunity to find out as much as possible about Poland and Polish as like most Irish I was useless at languages.

But daily they have to endure a barrage of offensive insults.

I have had customer refuse to be served by poles saying ' have you no one who speaks English here' ( all my staff have at least 3 languages and are fluent in English)

One manager who was dealing with a customer complaint was asked 'what right he had having a managers job when half the country is out of work'.

I have seen some of they guys treated as simpletons. Ironic as most have college educations. Very funny to see one customer trying to argue a legal point with a manager that was also a qualified solicitor in Poland.

The fact of the matter is the Polish working with me have started at the bottom and worked their way up and deserve their dues.

And yes I have heard the 'No Irish' rumor etc.

I find the most bitter against Polish are construction workers and self employed trades people. I am open to correction.

spurious · 20-08-2009 11:05PM

niko2485 wrote: »

I can't imagin somebody without the language in my country. It has to be really hard because polish(older) people are very unfrendlly(iin my opinion).

I spent most of July in Krakow (in UJ) on an intensive Polish course. I think Polish people are not used to the small talk that Irish people make with strangers and are quite suspicious of it. This makes some people here think that they are stuck up or cold.

I found that older people were a bit more work, but were usually highly amused at the idea of someone from Ireland trying to learn Polish. They were very patient. God knows what offensive things I was coming out with trying to speak to them.

niko2485 · 20-08-2009 11:09PM

It was happen to me once as well. Im working on the phone 30 min every day and as a polish person I can't say the name of the company with the proper acent. The men on the phone ask me once what is the name of the company and after he just said "Can I talk to somebody who speaks english". He was annoyed and he pissed me of. I transfer the call to the other girl and nearly cried.:(

niko2485 · 20-08-2009 11:15PM

spurious wrote: »

I spent most of July in Krakow (in UJ) on an intensive Polish course. I think Polish people are not used to the small talk that Irish people make with strangers and are quite suspicious of it. This makes some people here think that they are stuck up or cold.

I found that older people were a bit more work, but were usually highly amused at the idea of someone from Ireland trying to learn Polish. They were very patient. God knows what offensive things I was coming out with trying to speak to them.

Is it difficult to lern polish?

EdgarAllenPoo · 20-08-2009 11:18PM

Decent people are decent people and arseholes are arseholes, that goes for all nationalities. With that said all the Polish people I work with are great craic compared to some of the Irish people I work with.

Crann na Beatha · 20-08-2009 11:22PM

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fearandloathing · 20-08-2009 11:22PM

i love the polish, theres a good few polish girls in my office and they're all really cool. im dating a polish girl so i guess im biased. i find some of the polish guys ive met through her to be a bit unfriendly and unwilling to make much conversation with me but maybe the dont like to see an irish guy with one of their women? im not sure about that one, maybe im totally wrong there and they just cant stand listening to me banging on about the weather..

**** the haters niko, most of the people i know love the polish! i just hope a lot of you guys settle here long term cos it'll do the gene pool no harm at all!

spurious · 20-08-2009 11:27PM

niko2485 wrote: »

Is it difficult to lern polish?

It's not that difficult to make yourself understood, using words and sign language, but to speak it correctly is for a native English speaker quite hard.

w Krakowie, z Krakowa, do Krakowa
dobra, dobry, dobro, dobrym, dobrego - Jesus!
Jest bardzo trudnym jezykiem (?).

procure11 · 20-08-2009 11:32PM

wmpdd3 wrote: »

Hey Niko 2485 Wy jesteście więcej niż powitanie

6 out of my 9 staff are Polish. Where I work About 25% of staff and managers are polish. Of course I get on well with most people I work with no matter what nationality they are. I have used the opportunity to find out as much as possible about Poland and Polish as like most Irish I was useless at languages.

But daily they have to endure a barrage of offensive insults.

I have had customer refuse to be served by poles saying ' have you no one who speaks English here' ( all my staff have at least 3 languages and are fluent in English)

One manager who was dealing with a customer complaint was asked 'what right he had having a managers job when half the country is out of work'.

I have seen some of they guys treated as simpletons. Ironic as most have college educations. Very funny to see one customer trying to argue a legal point with a manager that was also a qualified solicitor in Poland.

The fact of the matter is the Polish working with me have started at the bottom and worked their way up and deserve their dues.

And yes I have heard the 'No Irish' rumor etc.

I find the most bitter against Polish are construction workers and self employed trades people. I am open to correction.

I am not too sure if you are polish.

While I understand the constraints that Polish workers and most probably most foreign workers face ,I dont think it would just be an isolated problem in Ireland.You have to realise in difficult economic situations ..most..if not all countries tend to be a bit insular .

You cannot also deny the fact it can be a bit annoying for anyone to spend time trying to explain themselves to people that are supposed to be "customer service ".I am not trying excuse any bigoted views but sometimes you have look at it from both perspectives.

I am very certain that the same would be happening in Poland regarding their immigrant population.The distinction would be how the majority of people treat immigrants.My question to the OP would be ...how do Polish people treat immigrants in their country?

niko2485 · 20-08-2009 11:33PM

spurious wrote: »

It's not that difficult to make yourself understood, using words and sign language, but to speak it correctly is for a native English speaker quite hard.

w Krakowie, z Krakowa, do Krakowa
dobra, dobry, dobro, dobrym, dobrego - Jesus!
Jest bardzo trudnym jezykiem (?).

Ja mieszkam w Krakowie:)-I 'm living in Krakow

Amalgam · 20-08-2009 11:34PM

Meh, people are people.. I worked with quiet Poles, loud Poles, racist Poles, pisshead Poles..

I don't like double standards though. I worked with Poles that had a serious chip on their shoulder about working nicely alongside African or Asian staff, but would turn any work\wage issue concerning themselves, into a 'race' one.. :rolleyes:

I think what makes Irish people a tad paranoid (and it pisses me off a bit, it has to be said), is the tendency for certain Polish to 'Polonify' their surroundings, Polish Doctor, Polish Shop, Polish Barber.. and to keep things very very tightly knit within that kind of set up.

Having said that though, pottle, kettle, black, Irish abroad etc.

gaeilgegrinds · 20-08-2009 11:36PM

I teach lots of Polish students, gentlemen. Absolute gentlemen. The only problems I've ever had are on nights out, some tend to be a bit full on. The women seems very polite but oftentimes under the thumb of their men. I don't think ye take our jobs, ye did jobs Irish people turned up their nose at for long enough so let ye have them. I mean hard workers should be let have those jobs, I've yet to meet a Pole happy on the dole!

Wagon · 20-08-2009 11:36PM

niko2485 wrote: »

Maybe it's a little wierd but what do you think about the polish (foreign)people in Ireland? I am polish myself and sometimes I can hear that we are not really welcome here. Why do "we" have such a bad opinion here?Do you really think the polish people are taking away the irish jobs?

Sorry for my mistakes:)

Don't worry. Sadly, the arseholes have the biggest mouths so they're the only ones you hear. Believe me though, ive worked with and met loads of polish people and as a nation you are my favourite. Dunno why, same sense of humour and tend to be real nice etc...

So, please stay in Ireland!!

Larianne · 20-08-2009 11:38PM

I work with lazy Indians, I work with busy, pro-active Indians.

I work with lazy Filipinos, I work with busy, pro-active Filipinos.

I work with lazy Africans, I work with busy Africans.

Romanians, Polish, Irish, Estonians same & same...

Doesn't matter where you're from - you either take pride in the job you're doing or you don't give a sh!t.

You can be nice and polite or be an ar$ehole.

I do sometimes find eastern Europeans a bit gruff. I dunno whether it's to do with the accent or it's their personality.

grenache · 20-08-2009 11:43PM

niko2485 wrote: »

Maybe it's a little wierd but what do you think about the polish (foreign)people in Ireland? I am polish myself and sometimes I can hear that we are not really welcome here. Why do "we" have such a bad opinion here?Do you really think the polish people are taking away the irish jobs?

Sorry for my mistakes:)

Niko,

I'm sorry if you think you dont feel welcome here, the opposite is true. You are very welcome in Ireland. The vast majority of Irish people like Polish people. I work with Polish people and have Polish friends, i think they are great. Very hard working, very genuine, good sense of humour, and easy to be friends with.

In the shop i work in, i get trouble from Irish people, Romanians, Nigerians and Russians. Never once in the three years i have worked there have i had any trouble from a Polish customer. I find them to be the best behaved nationality in Ireland today.

Ignore the racists, you are very welcome in Ireland.

Amalgam · 20-08-2009 11:43PM

NBB Bohs wrote: »

its because of communism.

It's an 'ism', just not that one..

procure11 · 20-08-2009 11:44PM

Larianne wrote: »

I work with lazy Indians, I work with busy, pro-active Indians.

I work with lazy Filipinos, I work with busy, pro-active Filipinos.

I work with lazy Africans, I work with busy Africans.

Romanians, Polish, Irish, Estonians same & same...

Doesn't matter where you're from - you either take pride in the job you're doing or you don't give a sh!t.

You can be nice and polite or be an ar$ehole.

I do sometimes find eastern Europeans a bit gruff. I dunno whether it's to do with the accent or it's their personality.

Spot on..as usual!

QOTSA90 · 20-08-2009 11:47PM

*whistles*

completely skipped over this thread after reading the first 2 pages.

Iv got a gorgeous Polish gf whos got her mind set on what shes doing for the rest of school, what she'll be doing in uni and what shes doing with her life. Never ONCE had a problem with Polish and they are by far the easiest of all the Eastern Europeans to get on with from personal experience.

niko2485 · 20-08-2009 11:47PM

procure11 wrote: »

I am not too sure if you are polish.

While I understand the constraints that Polish workers and most probably most foreign workers face ,I dont think it would just be an isolated problem in Ireland.You have to realise in difficult economic situations ..most..if not all countries tend to be a bit insular .

You cannot also deny the fact it can be a bit annoying for anyone to spend time trying to explain themselves to people that are supposed to be "customer service ".I am not trying excuse any bigoted views but sometimes you have look at it from both perspectives.

I am very certain that the same would be happening in Poland regarding their immigrant population.The distinction would be how the majority of people treat immigrants.My question to the OP would be ...how do Polish people treat immigrants in their country?

I know why the men treated me this way but after a while I can see sometimes you can't understand each other as well. I know a little of english (my gramma is bad ) but it is happen really often that my sentences are correct and people can't understand my acent. i can't do anything about this.

In my opinion the (older)polish people wouldn't accept so many foreigns in their own country but that will change soon cause there is so many young people abroad and they understand what does it mean to be "different" .

donkey balls · 21-08-2009 12:05AM

first of all the barmen in my local is bang on(polish) i work in the transport industry were unfortuntely i cannot say the same for your fellow countrymen.

let me explain they have run the industry into the ground by working for just above the min wage for driving 40ft trucks most of these guys have little or no english(there here the last 5 years)but when there is something wrong with there wages there english gets better.

i have also found empty beer cans in there trucks(one of them has since been fired drinking on duty) also the amount of accidents they have been involved in compared to our other drivers is crazy the company then got all the drivers assesed.

i was shown the results they were shocking anyone that works within the transport industry will know what im on about

Polish people

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