New motorway signs up already...

mackerski · 30-07-2009 09:18PM

Chris_533976 wrote: »

They seem to be putting the end of motorway signs in the correct places too!! Wow.

Not by the looks of things - those ones seem to be about half way up the off ramps. They should be right at the end.

BluntGuy · 30-07-2009 09:25PM

mackerski wrote: »

Not by the looks of things - those ones seem to be about half way up the off ramps. They should be right at the end.

Those are the "End of Motorway - 100m" signs.

I think there are regular "End of Motorway" signs at the end of the slip-road. If that's the case then the signage is correct.

Tech3 · 30-07-2009 09:37PM

Chris_533976 wrote: »

Did Galway - Cork today by bus, had the camera with me. I got far more excited about going on the M18 than I would admit to anyone in real life.

Yay they put up the M18 sign on top of that one I took a few days ago! Thanks Chris excellent photos! Did you see any of Gort-Crusheen while you were passing? I must go up there in a few weeks to see what the progress is like lately.

Chris_533976 · 30-07-2009 09:46PM

I saw a good bit of G-C too, a lot of earthworks has been done since I was there last and they seem to be doing more to the Barefield bridge too. Also there was a digger going great guns on a big pile of earth, even during the builders holidays.

I was on the wrong side of the bus for G-C pics, but I'll make sure to sit on the correct side on the way back up again

Tech3 · 30-07-2009 09:56PM

Chris_533976 wrote: »

I was on the wrong side of the bus for G-C pics, but I'll make sure to sit on the correct side on the way back up again

... and the majority of the signs on the M20 as well cause there on the northbound carriageway

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Speaking of M20 I think J3 has its ADS up now on the mainline on the northbound carriageway. I just took a glance on the rear mirror while I was heading southbound this evening! I might get a few more when I'm heading up to work on Monday.

Chris_533976 · 30-07-2009 10:15PM

Thats the Galway one isnt it? I think I saw them putting that one up.

Tech3 · 30-07-2009 10:24PM

Chris_533976 wrote: »

Thats the Galway one isnt it? I think I saw them putting that one up.

Yeah thats the one alright where it leads to M20 single carriageway! That sign should be changed when the Limerick tunnel is completed for the N18 as well.

D.L.R. · 31-07-2009 02:26AM

tech2 wrote: »

Yeah thats the one alright where it leads to M20 single carriageway! That sign should be changed when the Limerick tunnel is completed for the N18 as well.

The tunnel section itself should be N18, not N7.

Zoney · 31-07-2009 08:40AM

DLR: The way they're having it as N7 makes sense, with the dual carriageway mainline switch from N7 to N18 out on the Ennis road rather than at an intermediate point on the southern ring road.

I'm curious to see the signs for J3 on the M20, I would not have expected them to have Galway etc. on them considering that SRR phase 2 completion is only a year or so away. If it is, they'll simply have to replace it again. Also, if they have put those destinations on temporarily, I wonder have they included N69 this time - it was omitted before only to end up with a silly temporary plastic sign on wooden poles for years.

Chris_533976 · 31-07-2009 11:07AM

I didnt get a good look at it but yes, Galway was signed as was Shannon etc. I thought the same as realistically, Rossbrien - Dock Rd will probably have to open long before the tunnel, as you cant really build the Rossbrien junction without removing the M20 - Childers road movement first. With that closed, they kinda have to have access to the Dock Road without taking the current mad diversion.

Unfortunately the sign wont be there for long before being changed

Zoney · 31-07-2009 12:51PM

N69 is indeed on the sign for J3. It's the further away sign that is up - there are empty poles for the nearer sign.

Saw the further away sign on northbound M20 for J2 going up this morning.

D.L.R. · 31-07-2009 01:40PM

Zoney wrote: »

DLR: The way they're having it as N7 makes sense, with the dual carriageway mainline switch from N7 to N18 out on the Ennis road rather than at an intermediate point on the southern ring road.

I think N18 would make more sense tbh, continuous Atlantic Corridor 20-18-17. No 7 in the middle.

NFD100 · 01-08-2009 07:25AM

An excellent professional job with no dodgy 'it'll be grand' signs half way up the poles (like only in Ireland you'll ever see)

Well done to all on the M18 and M20

AugustusMaximus · 01-08-2009 10:14AM

They've put up all the signs on the M8 now. They even put up a correct sign on the South side of the Lee Tunnel.

However, a few of the signs going northbound on the M8 are obscured by shrubery which will need to be cut back.

BluntGuy · 01-08-2009 11:18AM

AugustusMaximus wrote: »

They've put up all the signs on the M8 now. They even put up a correct sign on the South side of the Lee Tunnel.

Good stuff.

Have the signs approaching Dunkettle on the M8 southbound been replaced (the ones with independent illumination and the "flaps")?

JayeL · 01-08-2009 06:46PM

Here's the new advance warning sign for exit 3 of the M2, with "Ashbourne (South)" as suggested by yours truly:

They're installing a single gantry sign just after this today, so the much-maligned two-sign gantry will soon be gone.

Amtmann · 01-08-2009 06:51PM

Amtmann · 01-08-2009 06:54PM

Amtmann · 01-08-2009 06:56PM

No change to the South Ring, no end of motorway signs up, and annoying grass growth obscuring many signs.

L1011 · 01-08-2009 07:35PM

...and the flap-board signs are still green as I expected they would be.

And the horrible "M8 (Toll)" signs are still up, as its no longer the start of the motorway they should remove them and do whats done on the M50 (the new Toll symbol is painted on the ground).

BluntGuy · 01-08-2009 09:23PM

MYOB wrote: »

...and the flap-board signs are still green as I expected they would be.

I suspected they'd be left too. I don't think they'll bother replacing them, too much effort, money etc.

Though, unless I'm mistaken, I think the second last picture used to be a flap style sign beforehand.

And the horrible "M8 (Toll)" signs are still up, as its no longer the start of the motorway they should remove them and do whats done on the M50 (the new Toll symbol is painted on the ground).

I suspect the hideous "M8 (Toll)" signage present in that photo will be removed. But unfortunately, there's little chance of any other ones changing unless the NRA gets directly involved, because Direct Route seem to feel their made up signage is perfectly adequate.

And now, to say thanks to Furet for the great pictures.

A few comments:

-I'm liking the consistent use of the "toll" symbol.
-The "E201" thing looks pretty ugly and awkward on the Cork "12km" picture. It gets the job done, but it should've been integrated into the actual sign. Placed on top, it looks rather silly.
- Some of those pictures show the low-cost "replacement" for the cantilever. But I think they do an excellent job, and should be rolled out where cantilevers cannot be afforded.
- WHY have they greyed over the thing saying "M8"... it just baffles me completely. If they're trying to hide the fact it's a motorway, cover the "chopsticks" instead.
- Hmm... is that patching I see at Dunkettle or are those new signs?

Amtmann · 01-08-2009 09:41PM

No, the flap sign is still there and probably won't be changed

Amtmann · 01-08-2009 09:44PM

BluntGuy wrote: »

- Hmm... is that patching I see at Dunkettle or are those new signs?

I think it's one-third new signage. Those signs are assembled from three panels. The topmost panel was the only one that needed to be amended, so I think they just got a new one rather than patched it. Very annoying that nothing on the south ring proper has been changed though.

icdg · 02-08-2009 10:58AM

Furet wrote: »

Who designed this atrocity and what part of "all directional signage, other than standalone brown tourist signs, and at terminal junctions, should be BLUE background" do they not understand?

Chris_533976 · 02-08-2009 11:25AM

I'd hazard a guess that the top (green) panel is the original and the blue bit underneath is new. They may still change the top panel but guesswork says they wont

AugustusMaximus · 02-08-2009 12:33PM

icdg wrote: »

Who designed this atrocity and what part of "all directional signage, other than standalone brown tourist signs, and at terminal junctions, should be BLUE background" do they not understand?

Should each road be surrounding in a small green box as they are not motorways on that sign ?

murphaph · 02-08-2009 01:07PM

AugustusMaximus wrote: »

Should each road be surrounding in a small green box as they are not motorways on that sign ?

No. No patching allowed in this case on the mainline.

AugustusMaximus · 02-08-2009 02:04PM

murphaph wrote: »

No. No patching allowed in this case on the mainline.

I find it odd that they patch with blue on a national route sign but don't patch with green or white on a motorway sign.

nordydan · 02-08-2009 03:06PM

Still no signs up on the redeisgnated N3 section. Came down that way yesterday

icdg · 02-08-2009 05:33PM

AugustusMaximus wrote: »

I find it odd that they patch with blue on a national route sign but don't patch with green or white on a motorway sign.

The Anderson Committee report that prescribed the original design of the UK's (and by extension, Ireland's) motorway directional signs, did not include patching. When the Warboys Committee designed new signs for all of the UK's roads, they allowed patching of road numbers only on non-motorway roads but not on motorways, oddly enough. The Guildford Rules (introduced in the UK in 1994 and near-instantaniously imported over here!) allow patching of destinations as well as just road numbers as was originally the case, but still don't allow it on motorways.

I think it is to do with making motorway signs be more easily read at high speed, really. Practically all of our directional signage design, with the exception of the more recent style of gantry signs and some of our other recent innovations in motorway signage (the "Next Exit" and "Exit" gore signs) are copied directly from the UK's standards, with a bit of tweaking and of course our use of bilingualism.

As for that sign, yeah it would appear to be the case that the top panel is from the original sign. To me it appeared as if they were one sign! How odd.

New motorway signs up already...

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