Tokai Les Paul (Love Rock)

Alanstrainor · 26-07-2009 11:05PM #1

Alright boys, i've been hit with some of that GAS that's been going around, it's like swine flu, but more expensive...and possibly less dangerous! I've been looking at all sorts of Les Pauls, from Bacchus, to Edwards and the Tokais. Unfortunately the bacchuses are out of my price range, which is around the 800 mark for now. A tokai or two caught my eye, in particular this sexy bastard a LS90Q model:

Now, i'd have pretty high expectations, from experience with the likes of Bacchus and hearing good things about Tokai in general on these boards. I was just wondering if anyone can either come up with alternatives, or any reason not to buy!
Cheers,
Al.

Kenny_D · 27-07-2009 06:54AM

Jaysus dont get that when Boycey's sexy bacchus duke is on adverts right now for about €900. I've had a tokai and they are great guitars but seriously either get the bacchus or the les paul I currently have (Edwards E-LP-130 LTS). The edwards is the top of the line model and has SD Antiquity pickups which alone are about €300 new. It'll come in under budget too from ishi ubox. There was one there last week but its gone now. Keep an eye on it though. I've seen them come up every 3-4 weeks

Bacchus:
http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=128281&cat=all

Plain tops are an understated beauty. Far nicer than quilt I think

Quattroste · 27-07-2009 07:39AM

Hi Al, I'd say Bacchus over Tokai if your talking about the LS90Q. The 90 is low-mid range in the Tokai catalogue. The electronics are OK, and build should be fine and the Tokai does look great but the Bacchus, in this comparison, is a better guitar. I'd also imaine the Bacchus has a better resale value too. My 2c.

Alanstrainor · 27-07-2009 05:35PM

Cheers for the replies lads, i wouldn't be in a position to buy right now, but hopefully in the next month or so, provided something doesn't come up. Boycey's Bacchus looks bloody savage, and i'd certainly be giving that one a look, especially since i'd get a chance to play before i buy. The only Edwards E-LP-130's i've seen are on ebay are pushing 1100 which is just too much for me at the minute.

Fingers Mcginty · 27-07-2009 07:33PM

GStormcrow wrote: »

Plain tops are an understated beauty. Far nicer than quilt I think

+1

brendansmith · 27-07-2009 10:06PM

Fingers Mcginty wrote: »

+1

When i first read the comment yesterday i thought, nah deffo not.
Then when the comment got this +1 I scrolled up and down and thought hmmmm maybe they are on a par but after really examining both finishes i am begionning to think you might be on to something.

Ancient1 · 27-07-2009 10:10PM

GStormcrow wrote: »

Boycey's sexy bacchus duke is on adverts right now

Boycey! :eek:

boycey · 27-07-2009 10:47PM

Ancient1 wrote: »

Boycey! :eek:

There comes a time when a man must admit he was born with the spinal fortitude of an eight year old girl.
My time has come

Kenny_D · 28-07-2009 08:48AM

The edwards come up for about 800 delivered on the ubox. One just sold about a week ago so deffinitely keep an eye on it.

Quattroste · 28-07-2009 02:14PM

boycey wrote: »

There comes a time when a man must admit he was born with the spinal fortitude of an eight year old girl.
My time has come

Amen Brother

population · 28-07-2009 04:59PM

I have one of the tokai customs, lc85s I believe. It is an absolutely savage guitar but the toggle switch did give me a little trouble about a year in. All fine now though

crosstownk · 28-07-2009 09:33PM

A guitarist I used to play with had a Tokai Love Rock - excellent meaty mid range from it.

Alanstrainor · 28-07-2009 10:09PM

population wrote: »

I have one of the tokai customs, lc85s I believe. It is an absolutely savage guitar but the toggle switch did give me a little trouble about a year in. All fine now though

crosstownk wrote: »

A guitarist I used to play with had a Tokai Love Rock - excellent meaty mid range from it.

Good to hear, i've been reading good things about them online and have found quite a few good youtube clips with some nice tones. I've too many strats and need something new, and everyone wants an LP of some variety at some stage in their life!

Kenny_D · 29-07-2009 12:44PM

http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/ubox.cgi?T=syosai&sline=135&print=1&keys2=shinsaibashi%40ishibashi.co.jp&tid=list3

Quattroste · 29-07-2009 01:26PM

population wrote: »

I have one of the tokai customs, lc85s I believe. It is an absolutely savage guitar but the toggle switch did give me a little trouble about a year in. All fine now though

I have an Tokai LS200 that is developing the very same thing and my ES100 also needs a new toggle switch.

Alanstrainor · 29-07-2009 02:26PM

GStormcrow wrote: »

http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/ubox.cgi?T=syosai&sline=135&print=1&keys2=shinsaibashi%40ishibashi.co.jp&tid=list3

Was that supposed to link to the Edwards E-LP-98LTS that's on the U-box, or has it been sold?

Kenny_D · 29-07-2009 02:36PM

It was indeed to the 98LTS and it looks like it's still there:

http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/ubox.cgi?T=syosai&sline=166&print=1&keys2=shinsaibashi%40ishibashi.co.jp&tid=list3

The link changes when they add new stuff I think

Alanstrainor · 30-07-2009 03:27PM

Alright boys, more questions, how do the likes of the Edwards E-LP-98LTS' compare to the Tokai LS90Q's and LS100's. Would they be roughly the same, or does one out do the other in some way? The pricing of the edwards seem to be cheaper, but that may be because most of the edwards on ebay are coming from Japan.

Quattroste · 30-07-2009 08:27PM

I reckon they would be much the same so personally I'd choose....

THE BACCHUS. You know you want to

Kenny_D · 31-07-2009 08:59AM

Yeah I'd still go for the bacchus. Wont be far off the price you'd pay for either the tokai or edwards but a much nicer guitar.

If you want to find out more about tokais be sure to check out:

http://www.tokaiforum.com/

Here's a 130 for sale also:

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=13704&highlight=edwards

Kenny_D · 31-07-2009 01:55PM

Wonder how much this is going for. Damn nice les paul custom:

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=13983

Alanstrainor · 10-08-2009 11:22PM

Right lads, i've placed an order for a nice Japanese les paul. It ended up being under budget, and looks mighty fine, but i'll let yee know what it's like when it arrives. The obligatory pics will follow!
Cheers for the advice!

Alanstrainor · 20-08-2009 07:19AM

So i got my guitar yesterday. And Edwards E-LP-92SD, with a goldtop. It's a sexy beast, the finish on it is flawless, and it plays great. Haven't got much of a chance to play it through an ampyet but so far it sounds awesome. Thanks for the advice lads. Pics will be put up later!

Kenny_D · 20-08-2009 08:10AM

Good choice. Did you go for P90's? I love my edwards. They're great guitars

Alanstrainor · 20-08-2009 08:48AM

GStormcrow wrote: »

Good choice. Did you go for P90's? I love my edwards. They're great guitars

No, i went for humbuckers. The guitar came up on ebay for 600 delivered from france so i just went with that. Didn't want to risk getting stung with tax ordering from japan. Can't wait to properly play the damn thing!

Quattroste · 20-08-2009 03:00PM

I simply don't believe you even bought a guitar. No proof ya see

Alanstrainor · 20-08-2009 03:49PM

Quattroste wrote: »

I simply don't believe you even bought a guitar. No proof ya see

Patience:pac:

Alanstrainor · 22-08-2009 06:02PM

Well here she is:

attachment.php?attachmentid=88680&stc=1&d=1250964157

Not the best of pics but it's one hell of a sexy guitar.

Dord · 22-08-2009 06:12PM

Tasty! Are those Seymours in it? :cool:

Alanstrainor · 22-08-2009 07:21PM

Dord wrote: »

Tasty! Are those Seymours in it? :cool:

They are indeed. Damn nice tone, exactly what i wanted they're SH-1n in the bridge and SH-4 in the neck. The neck pup is nice and clear for a humbucker, i was worried it would be too muddy, but it's sweet.
The neck on it is great, not too fat, but not too skinny. And the finish is perfect. Cheers for the advice lads, very happy with the guitar!

Dord · 22-08-2009 07:47PM

Cool! Whats the back like?

Tokai Les Paul (Love Rock)

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