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Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud


    Remember we have Van Persie, Eduardo, Walcott, Arshaven and Vela who are all more clinical finishers than the Dane in pink boots.
    The Toure story seems to be gathering momentum and I think unlike Terry, he could be lured away. I'd hate to see it happen, I've always been a huge fan of Kolo. If if does go that'd be another 15million.
    In total thats 15 for Toure, 5 for Senderos, 9 for Eboue on top of the 25 for Lazy mouthy C*nt, giving us 54million this summer, and the only player that would be a loss of any note would be Toure (and we do have Vermaelen now too remember), so thats the kind of money we have to work with, and if any football manager can't bring in proven quality with that kind of money then he needs to review his career choice !

    We may aswell just agree to disagree on whether Eboue is good enough or not to be an Arsenal squad player!

    Once again dont get me wrong, Vela is without doubt a classy player but i just cant understand how you can say hes more clinical than Bendtner at this moment in time? Has he really played enough games against premiership opposition to say this? You could be right but to say it now im just not so sure.

    We can agree on losing Toure would be a complete disaster, but you go on to mention Vermaelen. I think it was Evil Clown that mentioned it above he hasnt played one single EPL game yet and i personally dont think Wenger will want to throw him right in at the deep end. Toure last season was first choice more or less and trying to replace him atm would be very difficult for Wenger imo.

    Finally just say having this kind of money from selling the players you've mentioned above. Proven quality like you said is expensive and also these players usually command pretty high wages. What im getting at is where do you expect these players to fit into the team?

    I mean i dont think we will see proven quality players brought in to replace say Bendtner, Eboue and Senderos to just simply become squad players like the ones before them and sit on the bench?

    I'd prefer Bendy boots over crouch any day, that's what the thanks is for.
    That still doesn't mean i find him very usefull over the other strikers we have , even with King Offside gone.

    Looking for kinks in my posts :rolleyes:, did i upset you?:pac:

    Well without Adebayor we would be wise to hold onto Bendy boots, but if they did go, no a lot of people wouldn't miss them.
    Although Bendtner needs to prove himself this season and he is still 21.


    I realise Eboue is an Athlete & a thug , nothing more.
    He can't tackle, pass or cross the ball.
    Any club that wants a player like that in their squad is going doolally:confused:

    Well if your a fan of Eboue , your not a fan of Arsenal.
    He's totally an un-Arsenal like player and has not talent whatsoever.

    No you didnt upset me at all, in fact your response was quite amusing. Like seriously "Bendy Boots":o

    You mention selling all these players but cant back up any of your posts with maybe players to replace them? Or would that be madness sell them off the squad will be fine!!!:rolleyes:

    Like ive said before i gave Eboue plenty of stick on this thread last season but still think hes good enough for the squad. You state that Eboue cant cross the ball? I take you dont watch many Arsenal games, do you think Sagna provides a good cross of the ball?

    Your Arsenal fan comment was probably the most amusing part of your post tbh. I know your pretty new to the thread and might not be familar with a poster here before called toni1kenboie but your posts are very familar. (btw thats not a good thing;))


    Sounds to me as if RVP misses Adebayor and doesn't fancy having either Eduardo bendtner or Vela as his strike partner.

    You really think like this?
    I think maybe we're being a little harsh on Eboue, I'm no fan of his but I was when he was at right back. He was great in that position, won the ball and marauded down the right wing, although his end product always left a lot to be desired.
    However since Le Boss moved him to right midfield after the arrival of Sagna he lost it. He plainly wasn't up to playing in midfield and his confidence suffered because of it and now he's not a fraction of the player he was. He did annoy me with his diving and antics he used to go on with but there was a time he was a great player for us, unfortunately those days are gone, he's not at EPL top 4 standard and its time to move him on. 9 million is good business too. Yes we need cover at right back but thats the bosses job to worry about, there's better players out there than Eboue. I want this team to be stronger not just adequate, and Eboue just isn't up to it anymore.

    Decent post and i take on board the points you made and would agree with some of them. I know you keep mentioning the 9 million mark for him which would seem to greater emphasise that selling him would be good business but i just cant see us getting this kind of money for him.

    Like Eboue has been at the club for a decent period now and knows the way Wenger wants Arsenal to play, is well use to the way the game is played in england and is used to life in London itself. Like im just not as confident as you are that there is players out there that are better than what we have and that we can actually afford.

    These new players as im sure you well know need time to adjust to the league and living in London itself (granted Arshavin has been an exception) but overall they generally do need a fair bit of time.

    I just want to keep the squad together add a DM and replace Adebayor!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭ErinGoBrath


    It's hope sparky doesn't read this thread before the Toure deal goes through... :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    itsjaybud wrote: »




    No you didnt upset me at all, in fact your response was quite amusing. Like seriously "Bendy Boots":o

    You mention selling all these players but cant back up any of your posts with maybe players to replace them? Or would that be madness sell them off the squad will be fine!!!:rolleyes:

    do you always misquote everything you read on here?
    I said they wouldn't be missed.
    I didn't say get rid of them and replace with such and such.
    If you want speculate that's fine.
    You state that Eboue cant cross the ball? I take you dont watch many Arsenal games, do you think Sagna provides a good cross of the ball?
    Not really, but he's a far better RB and has yet to show if he can play in MR, Eboue cannot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Leprechaun77


    A lot of people are saying that City are paying ridiculous money for a mediocre player in Toure. I for one think we will really miss him. At €15m, and considering the current going rates, I think City have got a great player in his prime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    A lot of people are saying that City are paying ridiculous money for a mediocre player in Toure. I for one think we will really miss him. At €15m, and considering the current going rates, I think City have got a great player in his prime.

    I agree.
    Wenger obviously feels Vermalen & Gallas will do well together.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Evil_Clown


    He also bought Francis Jeffers, what's your point?:rolleyes:
    Of course he will buy the odd plank, and that is the case with Eboue.

    My point is that Eboue is a decent squad player as he has shown in the past that he can be a pretty good RB over a full season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,137 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    It'll be a very sad day when we sell Toure. Personall and this is just my opinion but I rate him more vital to the team than Gallas. He's worth every penny of tha £15M and more. The only positive about it is that its one less player for us to lose to the ANC in January. That is if we replace him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud


    do you always misquote everything you read on here?
    I said they wouldn't be missed.
    I didn't say get rid of them and replace with such and such.
    If you want speculate that's fine.


    Not really, but he's a far better RB and has yet to show if he can play in MR, Eboue cannot.

    No i dont usually its just if im honest your posts dont make that much sense imo.

    Just to clear it up for me your saying they wouldnt be missed if they were sold and not replaced

    or

    your saying they wouldnt be missed if they were sold and replaced


    I agree Sagna is a better RB but Eboue is good cover. I mentioned Sagnas ability to cross the ball purely because you stated Eboue cant!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    Evil_Clown wrote: »
    My point is that Eboue is a decent squad player as he has shown in the past that he can be a pretty good RB over a full season.

    Yes i agree, he was but that was 3 seasons ago.
    Her had a great run whilst Lauren was out injured and everyone thought he is a great little RB.
    Since then he has played almost all games as MR and was simply ****e, and we have seen the thug in him come to the fore and he's been embarrassing for our club on more than a few occasions.

    I get your point, you like Eboue, but the fact is more than half of Arsenal fans don't.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    itsjaybud wrote: »
    No i dont usually its just if im honest your posts dont make that much sense imo.

    Just to clear it up for me your saying they wouldnt be missed if they were sold and not replaced

    or

    your saying they wouldnt be missed if they were sold and replaced


    I agree Sagna is a better RB but Eboue is good cover. I mentioned Sagnas ability to cross the ball purely because you stated Eboue cant!


    I said they wouldn't be missed (by too many fans).
    If you want to disect that then go out and poll Arsenal fans in general and stop turning the thread into i want you to explain why.:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud



    I get your point, you like Eboue, but the fact is more than half of Arsenal fans don't.;)

    Seriously why do you keep going on about us liking Eboue and making out that we are his biggest fans.

    Like jesus we just think hes a good SQUAD player nothing more nothing less its just as simple as that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud


    I said they wouldn't be missed (by too many fans).
    If you want to disect that then go out and poll Arsenal fans in general and stop turning the thread into i want you to explain why.:rolleyes:

    Look ive made my posts which i think are pretty decent and easy to understand my points all i wanted was you to answer a simple question so maybe i could understand your points a bit more but obviously you cant answer it or dont feel the need to.

    Anyway lets move on!;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    itsjaybud wrote: »
    Seriously why do you keep going on about us liking Eboue and making out that we are his biggest fans.

    Like jesus we just think hes a good SQUAD player nothing more nothing less its just as simple as that!

    Now your responding to my posts to other people.
    i have not said anything offensive in it , yet you still want to carry on this "i want to understand your way of thinking"

    And to answer your question to end all this bickering....
    1. Eboue is a thug and a cheat.
    2. Cannot pass or cross the ball for MR.
    3. Loses the ball far too easily.
    These are reasons enough for me not to like him or miss him when sold.

    Some fans don't like Eboue, its simple, its a game not a GCSE.get over it.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Leprechaun77


    Willie, I personally would agree more with itsjaybud. You appear to have an almost militant tone towards Eboue. Nobody is saying he's a superstar, but he is clearly not as bad as you make out. I have seen him on several occassions live, and then nearly every other game he has played since coming to Arsenal on TV/Stream. I admit he has had a few shocking games, but who hasn't. On the positive side, I believe he has a good burst of pace, reasonably good passing and interplay, and also dribbles the ball well. His end product does need a bit of work but as a result of this he is not a first teamer. My €0.02 anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud



    And to answer your question to end all this bickering....
    1. Eboue is a thug and a cheat.
    2. Cannot pass or cross the ball for MR.
    3. Loses the ball far too easily.

    Look man i hate having every second post here about Eboue as much as you do probably but to respond with your three points above makes me go back to the topic. Maybe you missed my question because in your reply you completly avoided it!

    Ive highlighted it again in my post below! Im not trying to have a dig at you constantly its just if you answer what ive highlighted then maybe your opinion can become clearer.
    itsjaybud wrote: »

    Just to clear it up for me your saying they wouldnt be missed if they were sold and not replaced

    or

    your saying they wouldnt be missed if they were sold and replaced


    Look this is all imo of course but just say instead of selling and buying a player which as far as i can see hasnt been mentioned yet?
    We hold onto him, can play at RB when needed and as 4/5th choice winger when injuries come into effect as inevitably they will during a long season.

    Sagna is a great defensive right back but will never be capable of playing on the right side of midfield! Why would you even suggest hes yet to prove he can play there when afaic he will never be required to prove this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Jaysus. SSN saying Toure to Man City for £16m is almost done. Didn't expect that one to actually happen.

    It's good money for Toure, but absolutely useless unless something is done with it. I have a feeling we're all going to be very disappointed after this transfer window has closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭thorbarry


    yea, if Toure does go, i think another defender is needed.... not to mention the DMF we all want... maybe Wenger is expecting Senderos to step it up a couple of notches. I still think Gallas is very good though, and the second half of last season he was quite solid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    itsjaybud wrote: »
    Look man i hate having every second post here about Eboue as much as you do probably but to respond with your three points above makes me go back to the topic. Maybe you missed my question because in your reply you completly avoided it!

    Ive highlighted it again in my post below! Im not trying to have a dig at you constantly its just if you answer what ive highlighted then maybe your opinion can become clearer.



    Look this is all imo of course but just say instead of selling and buying a player which as far as i can see hasnt been mentioned yet?
    We hold onto him, can play at RB when needed and as 4/5th choice winger when injuries come into effect as inevitably they will during a long season.

    Sagna is a great defensive right back but will never be capable of playing on the right side of midfield! Why would you even suggest hes yet to prove he can play there when afaic he will never be required to prove this!

    Look you started all this bickering over me having an opinon on Not missing Eboue or Senderos if they were sold.
    You keep on breaking off into your own little "who would replace them & what if they weren't replaced".
    I don't care....i just wouldn't miss either of them.

    now can you just please get over it an move on as i don't want to use the ignore button.:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,211 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    Lads relax it a little, were all Arsenal fans and one thing we can agree on is that we want silverware :D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    Redzer7 wrote: »
    Lads relax it a little, were all Arsenal fans and one thing we can agree on is that we want silverware :D.

    Fo sho.!!!
    Failing that, Bronzeware will do.;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud


    Look you started all this bickering over me having an opinon on Not missing Eboue or Senderos if they were sold.
    You keep on breaking off into your own little "who would replace them & what if they weren't replaced".
    I don't care....i just wouldn't miss either of them.

    now can you just please get over it an move on as i don't want to use the ignore button.:confused:

    This so called bickering you talk of is laughable, jesus its the arsenal thread like all i wanted was for you to just explain your posts in more detail so i could understand them. Sorry if its after upsetting you as you've referred to it as bickering but it was just a simple discussion regards a player. Once again i just wanted you explain yourself is all which you finally have as in you said you dont care!

    That sums it up for me i can finally move on!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,713 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Really surprised we're letting Toure go. And I agree with the previous poster who said we might end this transfer window disappointed. I wouldnt be surprised if he wasnt replaced. What we have left is one solid experienced defender (Gallas), a player who hasnt kicked a ball in the Premier League (Vermaelan), a donkey (Senderos) and a couple of promising defenders (DJ and Song). Looks very light.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,137 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Look you started all this bickering over me having an opinon on Not missing Eboue or Senderos if they were sold.
    You keep on breaking off into your own little "who would replace them & what if they weren't replaced".
    I don't care....i just wouldn't miss either of them.

    now can you just please get over it an move on as i don't want to use the ignore button.:confused:

    I think the point he is trying to make that you are not getting is that whilst you may think they are not good enough for Arsenal, that they certainly do need to be replaced if sold. Our squad is not big enough with the quality pool resting heavily in the starting XI. Whilst you might "not miss" them, if they leave, they will have to be replaced.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    itsjaybud wrote: »
    This so called bickering you talk of is laughable, jesus its the arsenal thread like all i wanted was for you to just explain your posts in more detail so i could understand them.
    Here we go again.
    What's to understand? That a fan could dislike Eboue??
    Sorry if its after upsetting you as you've referred to it as bickering but it was just a simple discussion regards a player.
    It's not upsetting me it's boring me.
    Once again i just wanted you explain yourself is all which you finally have as in you said you dont care!

    That sums it up for me i can finally move on!;)

    Well jesus miracles do happen.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭WillieCocker


    Quazzie wrote: »
    I think the point he is trying to make that you are not getting is that whilst you may think they are not good enough for Arsenal, that they certainly do need to be replaced if sold. Our squad is not big enough with the quality pool resting heavily in the starting XI. Whilst you might "not miss" them, if they leave, they will have to be replaced.

    I understand quazzie and of course that goes hand in hand with dropping players without backup.
    But can i not comment that i won't miss a player without getting the spanish inquisition from the Eboue Fan Club? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,137 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    But can i not comment that i won't miss a player without getting the spanish inquisition from the Eboue Fan Club? :)
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭kronsington


    if anyone has the code for the fantasy football league for arsenal fans could they please pm it to me, thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Leprechaun77


    But can i not comment that i won't miss a player without getting the spanish inquisition from the Eboue Fan Club? :)

    Moving the goalposts again Willie. The other posters have blatantly showed that they are not 'fans' as such. This comment has brought the discussion full circle back to start so I suggest we agree to disagree and move on to the next subject.

    */scours internet to find the latest piece of inacurrate rumours and transfers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,137 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Just to announce I've sent around another spate of invites to the Arsenal Supporters Group. If I missed anyone just PM me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭itsjaybud


    Here we go again.
    What's to understand? That a fan could dislike Eboue???
    I understand quazzie and of course that goes hand in hand with dropping players without backup.
    But can i not comment that i won't miss a player without getting the spanish inquisition from the Eboue Fan Club? :)

    Willie i couldnt care less if you dislike half the squad i really dont care, what you keep on missing is that normally say one of the decent posters may come on and say i would like to see such an such a player sold to generate funds so we can buy (they usually insert a players name here)

    That to me and the majority of posters here is fine and normal i might agree or strongly disagree but at the least that poster can back up their agrument for selling that particular Arsenal player. You come along and want Arsenal to sell these players and you cant offer not even one replacement!!! 99% of your posts are ridiculous tbh.

    You really do sound like an idiot with referring to the Eboue fan club.


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