Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

thorbarry · 27-07-2009 03:46PM

WillieCocker wrote: »

I read £17m bid for Vucinic and they are also reporting that we have tabled a bid of €17m for Huntelaar.
All bollox IMO.

Absolutely, as far as i am concerned nothing is happening until i hear some solid concrete news. None of this "sources say" sh1te

TheNorthBank · 27-07-2009 05:01PM

Eduardo starts up front with Bendtner

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch4.html

Souless · 27-07-2009 05:03PM

yeah lets hope there's no injuries from tonights game

I'd also like to see Eduardo get a goal or two

TheNorthBank · 27-07-2009 05:22PM

1 nil. Bendtner 17 mins

Leprechaun77 · 27-07-2009 05:22PM

1-0 Arsenal. Bendtner on the end of a Traore cross to near post.

Souless · 27-07-2009 05:28PM

wish they had Eduardo in a more central possition still a nice goal. 2-0

Leprechaun77 · 27-07-2009 05:28PM

2-0 Arsenal. Eduardo. good finish

Souless · 27-07-2009 05:31PM

lol some throw in by Eboue there

Souless · 27-07-2009 05:44PM

nice free kick, thats 3-0 eduardo again

Roaster · 27-07-2009 05:44PM

Go on Eduardo. Hope he stays fit for the season. Have him at 28/1 for top goalscorer. Just seems to have the knack.

Souless · 27-07-2009 05:49PM

4-0 Bendtner for his second, was a nice set up from Wilshere and a good finish. This is starting to look like a walk in.

yahoo_moe · 27-07-2009 05:59PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

I'd want Bendtner to stay, unless a serious offer came in for him. The other two can leave as far as I'm concerned. Toure to stay, obviously.

Yeah, I'd pretty much agree with this - Senderos won't be first choice and it always takes him a run of games to find his form which means he's not really a great squad player. Eboue I can do without - can't see how we wouldn't be able to get a back-up right back for about £5m so makes good sense.

I'd rather keep Toure, and I don't see why anyone would sell Bendtner and then look to replace him - he's the right level of player for where he is in the pecking order, and is actually a good squad player (a la Park, Fletcher, O'Shea) in that he tries his heart out every chance he gets. Vucinic certainly isn't worth Bendtner + 13m or whatever someone said.

Roaster · 27-07-2009 06:12PM

Unlucky Wilshere! Lovely chip

Souless · 27-07-2009 06:36PM

3 nice saves from Mannone there :O its 5-0 now Van Persie got a peno a while ago

Redzer7 · 27-07-2009 07:12PM

Any Links To The Goals Lads??

Souless · 27-07-2009 08:10PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HvbagfmCf4 There you go, were some nice goals

Smegball · 27-07-2009 08:31PM

Redzer7 wrote: »

Any Links To The Goals Lads??

www.101greatgoals.com

itsjaybud · 27-07-2009 08:47PM

jester77 wrote: »

I wish I could share your optimism, he's just not clinical enough for me. OK as a backup but not a first team player.

keano_afc wrote: »

Crouch would be a backwards signing. Bendtner is just as good, if not better. And 7 years younger.

WillieCocker wrote: »

Yaya already said Kolo wouldn't go to City.
We wouldn't miss Senderos, Bendy boots Or Eboue TBH.
We need a RB in case Sagna gets injured, and even Kolo could fill that position.
Wenger won't let him go.

Willie you thanked the two posts above from jester & keano which would to me suggest you agreed with the posts, yet in your post you dont think we would miss any of those three players even Bendtner even though you thanked two positive posts regards him????

When you say we wouldnt miss Senderos, Bendtner or Eboue do you mean that we wouldnt miss them in the squad? As in we could sell them not replace them and we wouldnt miss them?

Also regards RB incase Sagna gets injured, you do realise Eboue can play at right back and is imo good enough and a useful squad player because of this. Even if you mean you would want to sell the three players in question and replace them i still cant see any replacements in a transfer market that has some seriously inflated price tags.

The only player out of them 3 that i would be comfortable with letting go would be Senderos, simply because i just dont think hes cut out to be a premiership defender.

TheNorthBank wrote: »

Lets be honest apart from Toure the other three are free to go. Three very very very average players that are clearly not up to our level. Thats been blatently obvious over the past couple of seasons. I know they have their supporters but all I ever here from those who stick up for any of those 3 is (good squad player... potential... ah he's young... bla bla bla). These are 3 guys that are very disposable and the type of money being offered is ridiculous so it would be crazy for a club like ours, in debt and in need of a couple of proven quality players (proven quality = expensive) then its a no brainer to sell. And remember in the past few seasons we've seen quality (Hleb, Flamster, Gilberto, Henry etc) leave and we got reletively little money, if any for them so if teams like Fiorentina are going to pay €10 million for a player like Eboue, well I say good luck to them.

Again regards Bendtner Eboue whats wrong with having good squad players which i think Wenger himself thinks they are! I mean its sounds like tbh the general feeling is that a good team alone will win things for us this season when infact its a good squad that we badly need, in other words keeping the squad some what together from last season and adding to it.

Like you said the money offered for them is RIDICULOUS, exactly it sounds like complete and utter tabloid sh!te, so that leaves us with what kind of money to replace these players with?

Not a whole pile if you ask me to allow Wenger bring in these proven players into the squad that you talk of.

Finally just so theres no confusion Bendtner and Eboue are good enough squad players for Arsenal imo. Theyre not there to start week in week out just when injuries are picked up and they can provide the needed cover.

We all know Arsenal dont have the same money as the clubs around them and we have to make best of what we can afford.

mink_man · 27-07-2009 08:50PM

man u fan: i think arsenal will finish ahead of liverpool this year!

Galvasean · 27-07-2009 10:08PM

oof, that deft chip from Wilshire that hit the bar would have been a fantastic goal.

TheNorthBank · 28-07-2009 12:18AM

itsjaybud wrote: »

Again regards Bendtner Eboue whats wrong with having good squad players which i think Wenger himself thinks they are! I mean its sounds like tbh the general feeling is that a good team alone will win things for us this season when infact its a good squad that we badly need, in other words keeping the squad some what together from last season and adding to it.

Like you said the money offered for them is RIDICULOUS, exactly it sounds like complete and utter tabloid sh!te, so that leaves us with what kind of money to replace these players with?

Not a whole pile if you ask me to allow Wenger bring in these proven players into the squad that you talk of.

Finally just so theres no confusion Bendtner and Eboue are good enough squad players for Arsenal imo. Theyre not there to start week in week out just when injuries are picked up and they can provide the needed cover.

We all know Arsenal dont have the same money as the clubs around them and we have to make best of what we can afford.

Ah will you stop, Eboue's not a good squad player, he's pure rubbish, He cant find a pass, he can't go passed anyone with the ball at his feet, he doesn't have pace, he reads the game terribly and spends most of the time on his arse with his hands in the air when he's been tackled and given away the ball. What I like about him is his workrate, he's a battler I'll give him that but ffs if Wenger gave me a game I'd work my socks off too for 90mins it doesn't make me a good or effective player. Also 9-10 million for Eboue is not tabloid sh1te, he'll probably be gone by the end of the week. Fiorentina have confirmed that they have people coming to London in the next couple of days to wrap up the deal with Gazidis.
Wenger also more or less said that Senderos will be leaving so we should get around 5million for him.
Don't think Bendtner will be going anywhere tbh, with Ade gone I'm sure he feels he'll get his chance at Arsenal this year. So time will tell but I think it's blatantly obvious he's not good enough. Remember we have Van Persie, Eduardo, Walcott, Arshaven and Vela who are all more clinical finishers than the Dane in pink boots.
The Toure story seems to be gathering momentum and I think unlike Terry, he could be lured away. I'd hate to see it happen, I've always been a huge fan of Kolo. If if does go that'd be another 15million.
In total thats 15 for Toure, 5 for Senderos, 9 for Eboue on top of the 25 for Lazy mouthy C*nt, giving us 54million this summer, and the only player that would be a loss of any note would be Toure (and we do have Vermaelen now too remember), so thats the kind of money we have to work with, and if any football manager can't bring in proven quality with that kind of money then he needs to review his career choice !

PDN · 28-07-2009 07:53AM

TheNorthBank wrote: »

Ah will you stop, Eboue's not a good squad player, he's pure rubbish, He cant find a pass, he can't go passed anyone with the ball at his feet, he doesn't have pace, he reads the game terribly and spends most of the time on his arse with his hands in the air when he's been tackled and given away the ball.

He's also a diving cheat. Not fit to wear the shirt.

Evil_Clown · 28-07-2009 08:02AM

On this Eboue thing. How many people were surprised when AW bought Sagna because Eboue was after having a pretty good season at right back and felt we didn't need another player in that position. I for one was but Sagna turned out to be genius and that was great. My point is that Eboue is a great option as cover for RB so in that way is of value to the squad. Man U, Chelsea, Pool all have 2 decent options for almost every position so Arsenal should try to aim for that also. Keep Eboue.
Looks like Toure is gone for 15 mil, this will only be good business if he is replaced. If not we could struggle big time next season with any injuries to our CB's. Vermalen hasn't played a PL game yet so depending on him may not be the greatest plan.

WillieCocker · 28-07-2009 08:13AM

itsjaybud wrote: »

Willie you thanked the two posts above from jester & keano which would to me suggest you agreed with the posts, yet in your post you dont think we would miss any of those three players even Bendtner even though you thanked two positive posts regards him????

I'd prefer Bendy boots over crouch any day, that's what the thanks is for.
That still doesn't mean i find him very usefull over the other strikers we have , even with King Offside gone.

Looking for kinks in my posts :rolleyes:, did i upset you?:pac:

When you say we wouldnt miss Senderos, Bendtner or Eboue do you mean that we wouldnt miss them in the squad? As in we could sell them not replace them and we wouldnt miss them?

Well without Adebayor we would be wise to hold onto Bendy boots, but if they did go, no a lot of people wouldn't miss them.
Although Bendtner needs to prove himself this season and he is still 21.

Also regards RB incase Sagna gets injured, you do realise Eboue can play at right back and is imo good enough and a useful squad player because of this.

I realise Eboue is an Athlete & a thug , nothing more.
He can't tackle, pass or cross the ball.
Any club that wants a player like that in their squad is going doolally

Finally just so theres no confusion Bendtner and Eboue are good enough squad players for Arsenal imo. Theyre not there to start week in week out just when injuries are picked up and they can provide the needed cover.

We all know Arsenal dont have the same money as the clubs around them and we have to make best of what we can afford.

Well if your a fan of Eboue , your not a fan of Arsenal.
He's totally an un-Arsenal like player and has not talent whatsoever.

WillieCocker · 28-07-2009 08:20AM

Van Persie has come out to say "Another Striker would make us stronger".
You know players ask for trouble by talking to the media.
He should be saying "arsene knows" instead of giving his opinion as no doubt this statement will suggest RVP has little confidence in the players we have that can play there.
Eduardo, Vela, Walcott, Bendtner, Arshavin.
Sounds to me as if RVP misses Adebayor and doesn't fancy having either Eduardo bendtner or Vela as his strike partner.

Evil_Clown · 28-07-2009 08:27AM

WillieCocker wrote: »

Well if your a fan of Eboue , your not a fan of Arsenal.
He's totally an un-Arsenal like player and has not talent whatsoever.

WillieCocker wrote: »

He should be saying "arsene knows" instead of giving his opinion as no doubt this statement will suggest RVP has little confidence in the players we have that can play there.

Arsene bought Eboue, maybe you should be saying 'Arsene Knows' instead of telling others they are not Arsenal fans and giving RVP advice.

WillieCocker · 28-07-2009 08:30AM

Evil_Clown wrote: »

Arsene bought Eboue, maybe you should be saying 'Arsene Knows' instead of telling others they are not Arsenal fans and giving RVP advice.

He also bought Francis Jeffers, what's your point?:rolleyes:
Of course he will buy the odd plank, and that is the case with Eboue.

Players shouldn't be giving club advise to the media.
It makes them seem silly like they are a manager in the making.

Diddy Kong · 28-07-2009 09:19AM

WillieCocker wrote: »

Van Persie has come out to say "Another Striker would make us stronger".
You know players ask for trouble by talking to the media.
He should be saying "arsene knows" instead of giving his opinion as no doubt this statement will suggest RVP has little confidence in the players we have that can play there.
Eduardo, Vela, Walcott, Bendtner, Arshavin.
Sounds to me as if RVP misses Adebayor and doesn't fancy having either Eduardo bendtner or Vela as his strike partner.

Did you actually read the quotes?

“It depends how the boss wants to play – with one or two strikers up front,” said the Dutchman. “But myself, Eduardo, Nicklas and Carlos Vela can all play the main role up front. So there are at least four options.

“However if you ask me I am not against a new player as well because it would strengthen our squad.”

Its clear from that theat he understands that we have a lot of strikers but if another one was to be added it would generate more competition in the squad and improve it. He is not telling the boss to buy more.
The story and interview is on the Arsenal website so I doubt they would allow a player to be "instructing" AW on how to manage his team.

Back on topic, if all of these additional exits do happen, who do we reckon we have a chance at getting. I see we are again linked with Brede Hangeland. Personally I would prefer to get an English defender and go back to the old days with the strong back 4.

TheNorthBank · 28-07-2009 09:28AM

I think maybe we're being a little harsh on Eboue, I'm no fan of his but I was when he was at right back. He was great in that position, won the ball and marauded down the right wing, although his end product always left a lot to be desired.
However since Le Boss moved him to right midfield after the arrival of Sagna he lost it. He plainly wasn't up to playing in midfield and his confidence suffered because of it and now he's not a fraction of the player he was. He did annoy me with his diving and antics he used to go on with but there was a time he was a great player for us, unfortunately those days are gone, he's not at EPL top 4 standard and its time to move him on. 9 million is good business too. Yes we need cover at right back but thats the bosses job to worry about, there's better players out there than Eboue. I want this team to be stronger not just adequate, and Eboue just isn't up to it anymore.

Leprechaun77 · 28-07-2009 11:05AM

WillieCocker wrote: »

Well if your a fan of Eboue , your not a fan of Arsenal.
He's totally an un-Arsenal like player and has not talent whatsoever.

Willie, I think you've gone a bit over the top with this statement. I think Eboue is an excellent back-up and gives the squad a bit more depth. The lad needs a bit of confidence and all he gets is abuse. It was not so long ago where he was playing out of his skin at right back.

People are saying that Senderos,etc will be no loss....I agree that they will be no loss to the first eleven as they probably will not start, but all teams need a squad of players as injuries inevitably occur. So we sell these players and get €50m approx as a previous poster mentioned. This €50m will not be fully re-invested as past experience has shown. We now have more money in the bank but instead of Eboue replacing an injured Sagna, we will have the likes of some 17 year old coming on.

I would be in favour of getting rid of some players if we were gauaranteed to replace everyone. I'm sure Wenger could manage to turn some sort of profit even if this were the case.

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